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Read The Infinite and the Divine on the recommendation of this thread and the first 2/3rds was excellent. Felt it kinda lost itself in the final fifty pages, which was too bad because I really enjoyed the back and forth scheming between Orikan and Trayzn. I've mainly read Dan Abnett (all but the first couple Ghost books and all of the Eisenhorn/Ravenor/Bequin series) and the Ciaphas Cain novels. What would folks suggest for something that will make me feel dread even on a sunny day, but also doesn't have characters that are obviously going to survive because of their role in the tabletop?
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Orks are plenty grimdark in their current status. They are utterly alien, terrifying beings from Tau/Imperium eyes, and they're pretty scary to Eldar eyes too, though at least they can be manipulated.
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The Orks have a culture and society, and if they won out it'd end up being an eudaimonic galaxy by their standards. Which makes me ask... why youse gits don't wanna grab a clubba and a shoota and get stuck in!
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Jul 20, 2022 04:22
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Jul 28, 2022 23:50
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D-Pad posted:This is a bad example. We are shown that the character knows it's a miniscule drop in an ocean that will make zero difference and that those men are going to their deaths to a man. The point is about Terran bureaucracy. On a world of quadrillions it took ten years to put together 500,000. Wraight is reinforcing how ridiculously byzantine Terran bureaucracy is and how hard it is to get anything done. I will say that after reading the Vaults of Terra, Wraight seems to get the overall size of the setting down. His Terra is alienating in its sheer size and desolation (and I mean that as a complement) and the brief glimpse of Commoraugh we get indicates that it's naval facilities put the shipyards of the Solar system to shame. So he does have an understanding that the embarking of 500k after 10 years assembly is a sign of how decrepit and feeble the empire's become. I dunno how well he grasps the systems that undergird society necessary to make a world city like Terra work, though. Like, the untold billions of people living in the underhives would not be untold billions unless there's a lot of food and other resources going that way on a steady and regular basis... and it did not seem like that was happening at all.
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Sep 3, 2022 17:20
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Deptfordx posted:Yeah that leapt out at me in the third Vaults of Terra book. I think that might well have happened, based upon how the characters talk about letting the riots burn/starve themselves out. I just think that it's something that probably should have already been happening for those in the sumps.
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Sep 4, 2022 02:03
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Look, if playing Sunless Sea has taught me anything, there's nothing wrong with being unaccountably peckish.
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Sep 26, 2022 13:47
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bob dobbs is dead posted:they replace your amygdala you die horribly if they break A gift of Khorne had replaced 3rd company Captain Grigorey Handensmasher's nails with the amygdala of blood and skulls.
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Oct 7, 2022 01:21
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Brendan Rodgers posted:I bet one of them rejected human supremacy, or grew up witk Orks and turned green. I am now going to accept this as my personal truth. Legio XI "Da Boyz" wuz da best and 'ardest uv da 'umies. Almost as good as an Ork!
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Oct 14, 2022 16:18
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Reading that I thought it would be amusing if it was E - it's a big galaxy and there's bound to be coincidental naming at some point, with that regiment having zero connection at all to the Alpha Legion. But E & B combined would actually be the funniest. The Ultramarines fully suspect that this is an Alpha Legion plot, keep taking "recruits" from the regiment for interrogation to prove their suspicions, and have multiple contingency plans at all times for when the Alphic Hyrdras show their true colors. Meanwhile, it turns out that these dudes are just very good, loyal soldiers of the Imperium who are proud of their affiliation with a legendary Space Marine chapter and all dream of excelling enough to be recruited themselves.
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Oct 19, 2022 18:51
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Cult of the Spiral Dawn by Peter Fehervari, I think.
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Oct 23, 2022 05:32
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Ah, my error.
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I disagree. It's a very big galaxy. Over a million worlds in the Imperium alone. Given the differences between Guards units from various worlds, you'd expect many/all of them to have their own specialist units on top of their standard infantry/armor/artillery/support arms. I do agree that our own real world militaries fukkin love their elite formations. For example, the US has not only the multifarious Army special forces regiments (Airborne, Rangers, etc) but the other branches can't be left out, so you get the Navy with their own 2000+ elite SEALs. And then there's the nesting doll nature of those formations - maybe you think SEALs are cool and elite, but they're not nearly as cool and elite as the ones picked for DEVGRU! Repeat for basically every other great power. Honestly, the list of groups above is if anything just scratching the surface of what would really exist. As I was typing this, I was struck by the notion that all this is actually happening in a tiny fraction of the galaxy. Even if the Imperium of Man were only a thousandth of all settled systems between all the currently named species, you're looking at everyone fighting over less than .1% of the stars in the Milky Way. Leaves an absolute ton of room to introduce new factions when you think about it that way. e: Any good short stories about the support/quartermaster parts of the Guard? Like the ones who make sure that each newly conscripted member of the Vostroyan Firstborn actually get to their assigned regiment? habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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Oct 28, 2022 05:33
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I recall in a Gaunt's Ghosts novel, The Guns of Tanith, that void shields prevented people from passing through them.
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Nov 16, 2022 04:01
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"Carry me closer, I want to hit them with my axe!"
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Yeah, those Woe Machines ain't gonna get statted anytime soon.
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Cain is supposed to look every inch the intimidating, cleft jawed commissar, so Cavill certainly looks the part.
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notaspy posted:I think that BL should go full woke and get whomever is the best Black author out there to do the Salamanders and the same again for the White Scars. Coulson Whitehead turning out to be a 40k fan and signing on to do the Salamanders would be a wild ride. e: NK Jemesin with Femaris Salamanders would also loving rule.
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S.J. posted:Literally any role they give him outside of a Primarch is one where he'd have to get his face all hosed up regardless. Not Ciaphas Cain. Dude looks like a propaganda poster come to life.
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I appreciated the Liberation of Gereon scenes with your standard awful Commissar amongst the RIP company as a counterpoint to the much less awful ones in the Tanith and Belladon.
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When you're here, you're family.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I love the sisters but they have like 2 good books and the rest are either ehh or boltor porn. What are the two good Sisters of Battle books? Always interested in reading more about them.
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IshmaelZarkov posted:
Emperor, to his collected sons: You shitasses.
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The Battle of Lion's Gate was won because the Palace had enough troops and material present to wreck a whole bunch of Khornate demons, not Guilliman going out onto the ramparts himself. 
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The Imperium would be both less evil and less hosed up if it had ways of dealing with bog standard dissent that weren't just  Likewise, if they were willing to trust their citizens enough to teach them to spot and fight Chaos, they'd have fewer Chaos cults popping up everywhere. That they're incapable of this because they're turbofascist totalitarians is part of why the Imperium is Bad, Actually.
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Even if it's true that those Space Marines had geneseed from a traitor Primarch it doesn't change the fact that they didn't act against the Imperium until after they were already being slaughtered by the Custodes. The Imperium is as big a threat to itself as actual Chaos.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:This brings up an interesting point. Do the Black Ships do genetic screening? Have they accidentally fed any Genestealer Hybrids into the engine, turning it briefly into one of those bug-zapper lights? That mental image got an audible chortle out of me.
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The Black Ships all have blanks/Sisters of Silence on them to suppress the psykers, and are specifically designed around keeping any of them who get daemon infested from causing more than modest trouble. They're probably (for the non-passengers) one of the safer ways to transit the void.
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When did the Astronomican come online, anyways? Was it always up and running even before the Emperor unified earth/took over Terra/created the Space Marines? Or was it something that was put together after he was mortally wounded and ensconced on the Golden Throne? Really, though, 1000 dead psykers a day for a near galaxy spanning navigational aid + the sustenance of the Emperor isn't all that bad a trade given the size and population of the Imperium. bob dobbs is dead posted:psyker encountering a blank and blank poo poo goes absolute batshit mad with pain. eisenhorn just gets used to it. amberley vails psyker is filled with mad hatred for juergen. random rear end psykers the black ships pick up? hosed I don't have a strong memory of this, so I might be mis-remembering, but the black ships basically cordon off the psykers into individual cells to keep them contained/not immediately in the presence of the blanks that would drive them mad(der) and the construction of the ships has extra strength gellar fields (and maybe materials?) to prevent the warp from loving with the contents.
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There's plenty of lore about planets that have past chaos worship in their history, and plenty more about various folkways that mitigated the risk of psykers. I know Fire Caste dealt explicitly with both. Which is also why the Imperium is bad - there may very well be ways to make psykers less of a risk to themselves and their neighbors but the Imperium would never try them even if they were more effective than how they currently do things.
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Reading Bloodlines and thought it was good but not great until (major spoiler) it turns out our good detective is in a goddamned Chaos Cult!. Went to bed right after finishing that chapter last night, so I haven't seen how this all resolves.
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War and Pieces posted:Nihilus will be an Abhuman-supremacist state. I like the comment of the Imperium Nihilius becoming the "good" Imperium. Would blow Bobby G.'s mind when he saw it.
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Ok, finished Bloodlines and agree now that it's very likely a Genestealer cult. But hey, he's a cop who gets results!
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Yeah, it could be one of those things like the end of the Carrion Throne trilogy where we, the reader, knows how hosed up something is but the Imperium itself doesn't know that there's another shoe that'll drop. How long has the Indomitus Crusade been going on, anyhow? Because (Carrion Throne ending spoiler) the Golden Throne only had about 100 years left before it stopped working when Bobby G came through the webway portal on Luna.
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Yeah, they are very good books and I thank this thread for recommending them. I wonder how long it took the Mechanicum to replace the Fabricator-General.
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That could easily be Gaunt misremembering that Ravenor was only nearly killed in a horrific manner during the Thracian Atrocity, and there's no particular reason why a Commisar would know a ton about a former Inquisitor from quite a different Segmentum.
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Guys, I regret to inform you that I just realized I'm a fascist because I listened to audiobooks of War and Peace and Moby Dick back in the day. I knew there was something off all these years, I just couldn't put my finger on when it started!
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I mean, it could also be an extreme version of "the thing I don't personally enjoy needs to be actually, actively harmful so that I can feel positive about disliking that thing." Either way, there's not really anything to be gained by engaging with it. e: To make this on topic - what ADB book should I start with. I haven't read much of any HH era stuff.
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Going with Spear of the Emperor for the moment.
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I found his original capture and then infiltration of the camp more eyebrow raising than actually offing the target. It was good fun, though.
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