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Kylaer posted:

Marital infidelity ( ) is a key plot element in the Arthurian mythos too, if anything a Brettonia story lacking it would be ignoring the source material.

Is not the Horus Heresy a form of martial infidelity, writ large?

# ¿ Feb 23, 2024 20:32

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 11:05

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Less jokingly, I finally got an e-reader. Is the OP's recommendation for 40k books still good? Any other suggestions? My main experience with the setting is the Ciaphas Cain books as well as Kim Newman's WHFRP book about Jack the Ripper in the Reik.

Also, should I go on amazon or BL for The Best Experience (I got a Fire)?

# ¿ Feb 23, 2024 20:35

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Waroduce posted:

Please read eisenhorn OP

Understood. Is the Omnibus a good call on this one?

# ¿ Feb 23, 2024 20:58

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I managed to fight the documents onto the new tablet, hooray. Got the Eisenhorn book plus the Navigator novel that I had seen someone mention while I was wiki-trawling about the RT CRPG. That should do me until next paycheck, lorf.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2024 22:43

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Having gotten through the first short story and seven chapters in the omnibus of Eisenhorn, yeah, this is some good poo poo. Thanks, goons!

# ¿ Feb 24, 2024 11:02

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I have gotten quite a bit of the way through the Eisenhorn omnibus and I think I'm nearly finished with the first novel. I enjoy how Abnett evokes the spehss mureens quite a bit. Humanizing, but simultaneously the opposite of that.

# ¿ Feb 29, 2024 06:53

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Warden posted:

I believe that Games Workshop has twigged on that a lot of lore-head chuds don't actually spend any money on minis. Frex, every time someone posts pics of space marines painted in pride flag colors and chuds lose their poo poo, what gw folks see is that the person who painted their space marines in pride colours has actually bought space marine minis. Nobody is going to stop buying gw minis if they see that, but you know, someone else just might start.

The true revelation of Guilliman

# ¿ Feb 29, 2024 20:07

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah. i think everyone kinda views the imperium as just the galactic empire but BIGGER, but its way more diverse and fragmented then that. their are unifying factors and crossovers and stuff. but like look at the regiments, sure many base themselves of the cadians but their are tons of different weird ones, same with astartes and sisters

It is an empire the way the Holy Roman Empire was an empire (which is also the case in warhams fantasy, but explicitly) from what I can tell

AnEdgelord posted:

From what I understand from some of the crime novels and Darktide, Abhumans are largely analogous to an ethnic minority in modern society and are legally second class citizens. Outright mutants even more so.

The big exception seems to be Navigators and that seems to be more a case of literally irreproducible specialist labor

# ¿ Mar 1, 2024 17:20

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I think plastics use a small amount and it could all be renewably sourced. I only know this from discussion I read on the value of oil in a post fossil fuel economy. (�Considerable, because of plastics and chemicals, but much lower per barrel�)

# ¿ Mar 4, 2024 18:56

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Telsa Cola posted:

The one about the ultramarine turning plague marine then redeeming himself was also pretty solid and like the only instance of anything remotely like that happening in the lore from what I can tell.

Did people ever like change sides for a year and then go "whoa, WHOA, whoa there Horus" and bounce back to the Emperor?

# ¿ Mar 6, 2024 06:31

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Sharkopath posted:

An image of nurgle I like is that his daemons get to laugh and be jolly while most of nurgles human victims are miserable and desperate. Its a toxic love, you might say.

This is making me wonder if they got Tim Curry to voice Nurgle at any point.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2024 16:35

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In fact, have Tim Curry do all the Chaos Gods. The voice of Chaos Undivided.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2024 16:36

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at the risk of tripleposting, I just got through the big parade scene in Malleus, and I am curious, when did Abnett write this? It has a very 9/11 sort of air.

# ¿ Mar 8, 2024 19:54

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MMAgCh posted:

Malleus came out in December 2001. I have no idea what BL's printing/publishing process was like at the time, but it is not entirely inconceivable that Abnett could have been in a position to take the events of September 2001 into account (or at least rewrite an extant part of the text to give it a more 9/11-y flavour).

Google does not seem to have anything to offer on the subject, unfortunately.

If he wrote it in July of 2001 and did not make any edits I would grow suspicious

# ¿ Mar 8, 2024 20:33

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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

it was guerilla marketing for his book. and do you know what? It worked.

gue'la marketing, sir, please

# ¿ Mar 9, 2024 08:28

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Sounds like I should deprioritize these gentlemen from future reading. It�s a shame, I was eyeing the Salamanders omnibus

# ¿ Mar 11, 2024 17:42

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mllaneza posted:

That's a dodged bullet right there, those are not good books.

You should absolutely do this. And also the mural artist at an Assassin recovery facility, that was great.

A shame, the Sals seem the most interesting good guy Marines. Do the White Scars get books?

# ¿ Mar 11, 2024 18:54

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mllaneza posted:

That's really good. If you can top that now, BL should absolutely start buying your work. If they don't, know you have fans.

Agreed OP, it was a great little story

# ¿ Mar 12, 2024 15:17

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Finished Malleus at last :toot:

Good poo poo but I am getting a skoche tired of Eisenhorn, just since I�ve now gotten through two novels and three shorts with the character. Any other strong newb recommendations?

# ¿ Mar 18, 2024 15:27

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Fellblade posted:

Stopping reading a three part story after the second book is wild, what kind of monster does that.

It had an ending if not THE ending

I assume in Hereticus he�s even older and grimmer

# ¿ Mar 18, 2024 16:29

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Nice. I was also eyeballing some of these Sororitas books, are those any good?

I had already picked up Rites of Passage and this book is loltastic from the jump. I love this old bat, and I hope she beats a Space Marine with her cane.

# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 02:14

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Cooked Auto posted:

Because BL never released the third part. That's what they did with the Dark Heresy RPG tie-in books at least.
Which was a shame since it was a Sandy Mitchell book and was pretty good.

I remember reading Rite of Passage and enjoying everything but the bits from the bad guy POV. Which were just so "Haha you see how EVIL I am?" that couldn't stand them after that posse had been introduced.

I believe fellblade was razzing me for wanting a break from Eisenhorn after two novels :v:

Since there are three in the omnibus you see

Abnett is a great writer though.

Is Danie Ware good?

# ¿ Mar 19, 2024 15:38

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Calax posted:

I wish the Steel Legion would get some of their popularity back. But I think that comes down to Armageddon being left mostly in the background. Even Hellsreach basically ignores the fact that they're around and instead just runs with generic PDF infantry rather than actual Mechanized units.

Oh no, I'm working through that omnibus. Trooper Andrej!

# ¿ Mar 31, 2024 04:12

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Sephyr posted:

That's a good story seed, in fact. Say, the Indomitus Crusade liberating a swath of systems from the grip of Chaos, only for the Inquisition to then go wild trying to purge any remaining taint/chastising the population for not resisting harder, perhaps even precipitating a wave of revolts. The returned loyalist primarchs very uncomfortable watching it happen but not sure on how to deal with it.

If you were writing it like a comic book plot you could probably do something with Guilliman and friends making a meaningfully less lovely Imperium and having the High Lords/Inquisition rebel against it, but I suspect that it would be hard to sell Normal Humans, But Extra Fascist miniatures.

or would it

# ¿ Apr 2, 2024 00:57

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D-Pad posted:

They get their books printed in China so the speculation was stuff got held up by the houthi's being on one and the ships having to take the long way around. The announcement about those LE delays were shortly after that all popped off.

I thought those guys were letting the Chinese ships through

# ¿ Apr 4, 2024 17:28

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They are technology... and they seem to have come from a ruin from a dark age! It checks out, Maximus!

# ¿ Apr 12, 2024 14:41

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Kylaer posted:

I'm pretty sure there's a whole bunch of tech priests who eagerly delve into every piece of Necron tech they can get their mechadendrites on. There's a taboo on messing with xeno tech of course but this particular thing is okay because it's so cool

I am confident that 100% of AdMech priests have committed tech heresy and would do it with xenos gear if they could only get hold of it.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2024 16:07

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Kylaer posted:

0% of the Mechanicus have committed any objectionable actions. They all know exactly where the line that must never be crossed is. Conveniently, that line is always just infinitesimally further away than the Really Cool piece of xeno tech, warp-touch tech, or forbidden archaeotech that they're interested in meddling with

That's true, shouldn't have doubted them really.

Side note, I liked the civilian-esque Mechanicus priest in the first Armageddon novel quite a bit.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2024 16:29

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The penitent engine in the combat patrol has a dude on it now. I gather that was not always the case

# ¿ Apr 15, 2024 14:57

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Kvlt! posted:

finished Horus Heresy book 1! Now onto book 2! They really do go down smooth.

could i get a quick tldr on all the controversy going on? i feel like i got into this lore/hobby and ppl on social media are all upset and i have no idea whats going on lol

Some of the Emperor�s special buddy bodyguards were revealed to be :females:

This kills the West.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2024 20:35

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Kvlt! posted:

wait is that really it LMAO i love the lore and games but that is some weapons grade CHUDerry

Pretty much. Apparently the Custodes codex also sucks rear end, but for nerf reasons

# ¿ Apr 16, 2024 20:44

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Sephyr posted:

Given that Custodes was topping the win rate totem pole, is this "nerfed into being merely good instead of bullshit", or "nerfed into having maybe one funtcional build"?

Unclear but I think the boffins suggest the former. Their raw stats remain chonky.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2024 21:30

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Rakanakle posted:

Just finished the Eisenhorn omnibus. First time reading any 40k novels and it was kickin rad. The best parts were the small moments of levity when Gregor would make a sarcastic comment or laugh. Really pops against the backdrop of a lovely, shiiiity universe.

It's quite good. I've been chewing through the Armageddon Omnibus which has been enjoyable if, I am guessing, also a thing more close to the mainstream of Warham fiction.

I also got Horus Rising, now I'll get to find out where it all began. I'm sure it's just a big misunderstanding!

# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 22:36

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Angry Lobster posted:

People have been following this for a long time, some even from the beginning. Seeing the series come to a close after eighteen years has been huge. Nearly two decades wishing for this crap to end and now that's gone I feel empty.

At this point the only thing that keeps my soul tethered to this plane of existence is One Piece, and as soon as it comes to an end, I will vanish from this world, leaving only regrets behind, chiefly among them is that I own two physical copies of Battle for the Abyss.

Which Chaos god do you think will get ya?

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 11:05

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Benagain posted:

coincidence, they're part of the other social group that refers to themselves as goons

Indeed, it's a fun name for the hobby. Look up 'gooning video 10 hours' for footage of their last big meetup!

The actual answer is they started here but I think 40k main thread drama caused them, like the Ghostbusters, to go into business for themselves.

# ¿ May 3, 2024 16:10

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