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Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004
Creme_filling menonted there was an ork story where: "Also an ork going back in time and killing himself so he could have two of his favorite gun." Where is this from because this sounds awesome.

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Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Cooked Auto posted:

And I would like to think they quietly take out anyone who looks over their numbers and go "Hey wait a second here."

Correct me if I am wrong but the Black Templars are a bit of an inside joke. There are so many of them in the books and what not because they have the easiest color scheme to paint.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:


Also the rumors that Sigmar was a lost primarch and that the whole Fantasy world was in the Eye of Terror as a training ground for aspiring Chaos champions.


I always thought that the Fantasy world was just on a undiscovered world in the 40k universe. And one day the black ships will appear in the sky and see all these humans chumming around with xenos and mutants and orks running around all over and just virus bomb the joint and be done with it.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

yaboonabi posted:

Has anyone given The Last Chancers by Gav Thorpe a leaf-thru? I've only just learned of their existence, and I'm wondering if they're worth tracking down.

It is actually pretty neat. I believe one of the guys in the penal (lol) legion was there for overdue library books.

The third book was a bit silly even for Gav Thorpe. Turns out the main dude was possessed by a Daemon his whole life

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

mdemone posted:

I love it. Like, I don't even understand 75% of what you guys are saying but I'm totally on board.

So...do I just keep reading Abnett? He seems like the best prose stylist among the BL authors, from just a quick assessment. After Eisenhorn, do I go to Gaunt's Ghosts or Horus Heresy, or what?!?

Horus Heresy should wait for a while. It helps to have a lot of knowledge of the fluff so you can understand who a lot of these people are.

You can't go wrong with Ciphas Cain to be honest. If you want a really well written story go for 15 hours. It is really short but it is strikingly good for Warhammer.

If you dig the whole rosette crew Ravenor is awesome. And if bolter porn is your thing I really liked the Ultramarines books, but you will see people on here disagree with me.

I am reading the Shira Calpurnia books right now and I am really digging the space Judge Dredd-ish story going on it. And I think she is one of the most positive female leads in a Warhammer book that I have seen thus far.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Gooses and Geeses posted:

Little fish, fifteen hours is awful little fish. What on earth is good about it little fish?

Fifteen Hours was awesome and you are not. It gives a really good picture to new readers of just how little life is worth in the imperium.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Trast posted:

Eisenhorn's fall from grace was pretty spectacular. It should make for an interesting set of books.

Is this going to be a new trilogy?

Also the cover is totally badass:

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Arbite posted:

Since the topic of radicals came up in this thread I'll ask it here as well: if radical inquisitors in Ordo Malleus use Daemonhosts, and radicals in Ordo Xenos use Jokaero and even Orks, what do the radicals of Ordo Hereticus use?

Jokaeros are not part of cannon anymore are they? I would imagine if one could control them (which would be neigh impossible) they would be the most powerful person in the galaxy.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Black Library has come a long way since this:

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

bunnyofdoom posted:

Wait, what?

I swear that I remember reading somewhere that an inquisitor somewhere diverted a space hulk teeming with da boyz to wipe out a planet on the cheap.

Cream_Filling posted:

Why? You don't like Pacino Marine?

That cover has always pissed me off for some reason. It makes the book look like complete garbage. Kinda like the early HH covers looked like it was rendered on the same computers as Reboot was.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

S.J. posted:

That book does have some awesome short stories in it though.

I totally agree. I did not get that book for a long time because I was so turned off by the cover art.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Affi posted:


I looked up a few of the names since i'm not good at remembering lore and I was like "Woah, so yeah that's why Abaddons name felt familiar"


It is really strange to read HH and realize that like half of the main guys from the first two books are all Daemon Princes now.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

CommissarMega posted:

The Jokaero are arguably nonsentient though; technology is just a weird thing they produce. We get leather and milk from space cows, space wheat from space plants, and tech from Jokaero. Might as well burn people for eating grox steaks, is what I'm saying.

I remember from the really old fluff that any attempts to harness the Jokaero just ended up with them building a means of escape instead of what you wanted. Also I would imagine space ape poo throwing also.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Nephilm posted:

The plot of DoW2 has little to do with the DoW novel and outright contradicts it in several ways.

Would not be GW unless the fluff contradicts.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

mdemone posted:

Is there an edition of Eisenhorn that looks more like Ravenor (and also apparently Pariah) in terms of cover art/style? I only have an electronic version of E.


This is the only one I have ever seen.



All though if they did make a collectors edition with a Ravernor style cover I would snatch that poo poo up in a second.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Therion posted:

I've just started reading the Last Chancers and holy poo poo, it feels like it was narrated by Samus from Other M. "How can you do this!" I gasped at the colonel, being distressed. The reason of my distress was the tone of the voice the colonel told the bad news in. Now I'm going to take it out on my squadmates because I'm a ~tough guy~.

The premise is pretty engaging and I'm curious where the story will go. However I feel that these books will suffer from Lovecraft Syndrome, ie an interesting premise explored by an incredibly lovely writer.

The Last Chancers had the 'chance' to be the most :black101: WH40k book ever. But it just failed on so many levels. But there is some cool stuff in it yet. Like the Commissar who obviously is a total ripoff/poorly constructed homage to 'sunglasses' from Cool Hand Luke.

But still I would love to see more written about Penal Legions in Warhammer besides the aftermath of a Slaanesh incursion.

Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Cream_Filling posted:

Yeah, Abnett tells that story in one of the introductions. The image on that cover itself started out as concept art for the at the time upcoming Inquisitor game and miniatures line.

You can see that Eisenhorn was conceived of as a tie-in book. For instance, phsycial descriptions for a number of major and incidental characters match up to the first release of miniatures for the game, and the first book's info-dump on Inquisitorial philosophies is basically lifted from the rulebook. There's also elements of "gaminess" where specific game abstractions and terms are used in cases where they aren't quite necessary.

I never played Inquisitor. Could you give me an example?

It would not surprise me if it started out like that but then transformed into the awesome line of books we have now.

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Evil_Urna
Aug 16, 2004

Ambiguatron posted:


I like the way that Emperor's Gift handled that, by offering descriptions for the daemons that make it obvious what they are and using euphemisms like the Sanguinary Unholiness instead of "I'll get you next time, Khorne! :argh:"




I think it would make a lot of sense. Grey Knights would have been trained in daemon lore. If a regular space marine knew the names of all those daemons he would prob catch a bolt to the head.

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