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Solomonic posted:Normally I'd say this could only end in a big crossover and all-around continuity reboot, but this isn't DC Heroic Roleplaying. You're right. MHR would have a major summer event that will CHANGE EVERYTHING.
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Is there an Uatu datafile out there, or is it assumed to be the 'how to GM' section?
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MWP won't be putting out any more Marvel Heroic Roleplaying products. A real shame, it's one of my favourite games I haven't had a chance to play yet, but I guess the license must need more sales than they can get to pay off.
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1st Stage Midboss posted:MWP won't be putting out any more Marvel Heroic Roleplaying products. A real shame, it's one of my favourite games I haven't had a chance to play yet, but I guess the license must need more sales than they can get to pay off. Well, the Annihilation book should still be pretty good. Hopefully it'll have enough new stuff in it to not feel like a weak ending point.
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Do they mean the one that was already released in PDF? It is pretty cool. Still I'm very sad we won't see the Age of Apocalypse book.
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drat. I pre-ordered the annihilation book, but looks like they aren't releasing it that way now.
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Druggeddwarf posted:drat. I pre-ordered the annihilation book, but looks like they aren't releasing it that way now. poo poo, really? They cancelled the stuff they already had in the pipe and (presumably) more or less completed? What a lovely move. Does MW have a history of dumbass business decisions like this?
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It was completed but had to go to print. You can still get the PDF.
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They buried the marvel news deep in that article, drat. Too bad, I thought it was a good game.
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It was my favorite PNP, too.  It's silly but I'm a little crushed, to be honest. At least MHR's easy to unofficially support, I guess.
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Wait. Defiance. you HAVE the PDF? AND YOU WONT LET ME HAVE ROCKET RACOON?!?!?!?
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He's only started as a minor character with no milestones and such, like Eros the Starfox. I was holding on for the full version in the next book.
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PDFs are only available until April 30th, so get them while they're still available. I've heard secondhand that this isn't at all MWP's call, but instead Marvel's pulling the license as a result of some target number of sales not being met. I guess this explains why all of the Marvel news was allowed to drift off the front page of their website in the last couple of days. Edit: I'm also now reading that MWP couldn't afford the licensing fee another year in light of low sales, and that Marvel is just being demanding about how long the company is still allowed to sell a game with their name on the cover. No matter whose "fault" it is, this really just sucks on a ton of levels. Claytor fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Apr 24, 2013 |
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Apr 24, 2013 22:25
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I ordered mine from amazon. Are they going to give me a refund from there and inform me of this, or will they just quietly take my money until it's too late. Screw you Marvel, I really wanted this book. It was my birthday present to myself.
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Druggeddwarf posted:I ordered mine from amazon. Are they going to give me a refund from there and inform me of this, or will they just quietly take my money until it's too late. Amazon doesn't take your money on preorders until the item ships. Either the orders will be cancelled in the next couple of days, or the date will come and go with no fanfare and you'll get a couple of "we don't know when this is going to ship" e-mails before cancellation a few months down the line.
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As an extra gently caress you, Marvel will be shitcanning all PDF sales and ordering their removal from sites like Drivethru on April 30, so buy 'em while you can.
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It's not really a big gently caress you, if MWP decided they can't afford the license they can't just sell PDFs forever.
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I genuinely cannot believe they're going that far. That's crazy. Took the bullet and got the PDF. Browsing through it right now. Can I just say, that Thanos is RI-DIC-CU-LOUS!
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What sucks for me is my next payday isn't until after they're gonna stop selling PDFs, so I can't stock up now even if I wanted to. Kinda lovely to give us, what, 6 days lead time?
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What lead time? they put the statement at the bottom of the article, and have not done a big note across their front page at it. If it weren't for me actually seeing this here, I wouldn't have been any wiser!
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Druggeddwarf posted:I genuinely cannot believe they're going that far. That's crazy. Well, there goes my joke of replacing all references to "Thanos" with "Amadeus Cho" and posting that sheet as Cho's new datafile.
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Swagger Dagger posted:MWP decided they can't afford the license they can't just sell PDFs forever. Granted, but there's a pretty big window between "forever" and "six loving days after the announcement."
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Yea I'm not mad about the pulling of PDFs, but goddamn give people more than less than a week maybe. Well, luckily I have all the books and my group loves this game, so Marvel roleplaying will never die with us  Really bummed no more event books though, those were really excellent products.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Well, luckily I have all the books and my group loves this game, so Marvel roleplaying will never die with us Pretty much, yeah. A game only dies when people stop playing it. With that said, having had a while to think on it, I think I'm less put off by the very abrupt shutdown (probably Marvel-mandated, if I had to guess) than I am by the fact that the announcement was just buried at the end of a news update with no real indication of its importance. If I hadn't seen it in this thread I wouldn't even have known.
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I kinda have to agree with one of the commenters on the blogpost. If the massive delay between PDF availability and availability in print hadn't been there, who knows what sales might have been like? I was getting free PDFs by preordering through my FLGS, but that's only after flipping through the core rulebook once it was on the shelf. As far as I know there's absolutely no preview material for these.
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The Journey Fraternity posted:I kinda have to agree with one of the commenters on the blogpost. If the massive delay between PDF availability and availability in print hadn't been there, who knows what sales might have been like? I was getting free PDFs by preordering through my FLGS, but that's only after flipping through the core rulebook once it was on the shelf. As far as I know there's absolutely no preview material for these. That might have been my comment. The one about "sales would have been better if the products were at retail"?
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Here's a thing posted by a freelancer (Jack Norris, of Exalted fame (Scroll of Heroes)) as posted on RPGnet.quote:
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That sucks. I didn't play the system a lot but it seems extremely versatile, and the milestone XP system is goddamn brilliant. Time to learn Wild Talents I guess?
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*sigh* I was really hoping to be able to run this game again once I have a bit more free time. And yes, I know people can still play RPGs that are no longer in print, but when you can't legally acquire the rulebook and there are plenty of other games on the market with support, it can become a bit of a tough sell fairly quick. Though the Cortex system will still be around. No idea how different Marvel Heroic was from the basic Cortex, though. At least thanks to this thread, I wasn't caught by surprise. Just snapped up the PDF for Annihilation.
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It does suck that I won't get to see my writin' on the same physical page as official Marvel art, but as I noted in the OP, Marvel RPGs have a hard time - they're often extremely innovative but only the first version really had longevity, and that was during an era when TSR was the 900 pound gorilla. Get yer PDFs now. I'll do an "Out" Event Book sometime, I swear to god. Edit: OP updated with link to Marvel Closeout page. JDCorley fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Apr 25, 2013 |
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ibntumart posted:Though the Cortex system will still be around. No idea how different Marvel Heroic was from the basic Cortex, though. There is no "Basic Cortex." There's Cortex Action, Cortex Drama, and Cortex Heroic(?), which share the dice pool mechanic but use it in completely different ways. I don't know that Heroic Roleplaying will be seen in an MWP product again, and that makes me sad.
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Ironically, my friend and I were kicking around dumb ideas for what we'd do if we were in charge of the SHIELD television show, came up with a neat concept for a campaign, and determined that Cortex Action, aka the Leverage RPG, would be ideal for it.
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Claytor posted:There is no "Basic Cortex." There's Cortex Action, Cortex Drama, and Cortex Heroic(?), which share the dice pool mechanic but use it in completely different ways. I don't know that Heroic Roleplaying will be seen in an MWP product again, and that makes me sad. I meant Cortex Plus. I didn't know about the other ones and now I'm just confused. And sad, too, if the Marvel Heroic version is the only version using that Cortex mechanic MWP publishes or ever plans to publish.
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ibntumart posted:I meant Cortex Plus. I didn't know about the other ones and now I'm just confused. And sad, too, if the Marvel Heroic version is the only version using that Cortex mechanic MWP publishes or ever plans to publish. They're just the three games under Cortex Plus. The Kickstarter for the Cortex Plus Hacker's Guide just made enough that it unlocked generic versions. Cortex Action is Leverage minus the license, Cortex Drama is Smallville minus the license, and there isn't a generic Marvel Heroic but they did unlock a fantasy hack for it.
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I guess since we won't get the Age of Apocalypse supplement, I will have to write my own. I do rather like the idea of having a random roll table to determine what the alternate version of a character is, which was mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Druggeddwarf posted:I genuinely cannot believe they're going that far. That's crazy. Just got to the Eternals section of the PDF with Thanos' datafile and holy crap. Edit: Ha, the PDF even has Dire Wraiths and Spaceknights. Now I'm even more bummed that Marvel yanked the license. Defiance Industries posted:I guess since we won't get the Age of Apocalypse supplement, I will have to write my own. I do rather like the idea of having a random roll table to determine what the alternate version of a character is, which was mentioned earlier in this thread. This needs to happen. ibntumart fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Apr 25, 2013 |
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A lot of people where dying for an age of apocalypse game, and some people have even Written their own stuff to run their games in If MWP won't do it, I say we have a fan based AoA booklet created. We've read the comics long enough. How hard can it be?
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ibntumart posted:Just got to the Eternals section of the PDF with Thanos' datafile and holy crap. I don't think Marvel yanked the license, MWP wasn't selling enough copies of their game to justify keeping it.
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