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Paracelsus posted:Or a magic bullet. There were also apparently a lot of low-effort stories where your cast of characters would include Lord Robert, Madame Gwendolyn, and the nefarious slit-eyed Chi Lin. They were mysterious near-strangers and I don't think they ever had a good reason to be the culprit. It was a step below "the butler did it" in terms of predictability.
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Kytrarewn posted:
You don't have to justify it (and why are you trying to?). If you remember his weird as hell proposal, George is just a creep  .
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Kreeblah posted:Just play it with the original artwork. It's fine (and less generic). Yeah, the big failing with RK7's art is hands and proportions. As long as you aren't looking at the character portraits, it's easy to get used to. He's definitely improved since the dodge and burn days of the flipper handed Higurashi sprites. Some of the original faces are a lot more entertaining, mostly Beatrice's.
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I love how Rosa's written, she's one of my favorites. It's why I like Umineko more than Higurashi, the larger focus on adult characters. Children are okay characters, but don't usually have the potential to be as nuanced, you can do a lot more with adult characters. Natsuhi and Rosa are both very good examples of this.
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Apr 26, 2013 15:28
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 Finally, ...Maria realized that her mother had turned back to being her mother. Maria's compartmentalization of her abuse as being done when Rosa is possessed by a Witch and turning into Bad Mama always gets me. To see her begging for her "real" Mama to come back is just heartbreaking  . Maria was very annoying to me in episode 1, but then when you see her horrible treatment here you feel guilty for thinking badly of her.Mother of the Year indeed, goddamn, Rosa.
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Shiny777 posted:
God drat, Eva. All the siblings sniping at each other is great, I wonder if they'd give Rosa half as much poo poo if they realized just how badly she abuses Maria.
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: "My, my, isn't that wonderful. It's best for kids to have dreams. By the way, Rosa, how old will Maria be this year again...?"
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redsoxism posted:Can we please leave all this Rosatrice nonsense behind for now? There are just way too many reasons to do so but it would be difficult to state them here without spoiling anything. Suffice it to say, it would just be completely disrespectful to the entire series if we continue to indulge in this train of thought. But isn't saying this exact thing a spoiler? You're clearly implying that Rosatrice is bunk somehow by it being "disrespectful" to the series. Any theory that encourages people to re-read things and look for clues is a good thing. The whole point of a mystery like this is for people to group together to try to solve it. You don't have to "push" anything, if someone has read it and wants to lead people down a false trail, who cares? It'd make for more interesting discussion than if everyone figured out the answer on episode 2/8 because of some "helpful" posts by you. It's a mystery series written by a guy famous for having (Higurashi spoiler) brain controlling parasites and government conspiracy in his last series.
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Shiny777 posted:Part Nine: The Banquet of Miracles Begins (Section A)
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It's not really possible to discuss the nature of the red text without giving away themes of the story, I don't think. But it is true that Battler is incompetent, if you want to calibrate your bullshit detector  .
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Mar 20, 2014 16:10
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Episode 2 is probably my favorite of the 4. I always forget about the slow start and remember Rosa fighting goats.
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Mar 31, 2014 23:28
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You're given enough information both textually and subtextually to make a very good guess as to what's going on. But there's no parlor scene. Nobody sits down and explains everything in a black and white flashback before the perpetrator is carted off to jail. There's also a competing theory that, in my opinion, doesn't stand up to the text evidence like the main theory does. It encourages re-reading to really get a good grip on the story and there are a lot of scenes that seem out of place that make a lot more sense on a re-read.
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If your super power is being able to analyze text and subtext, you can probably solve the closed room murders with just the information in episodes 1 and 2. Depending on your definition of "solve", of course  .And Zack Ater, the general rule of closed room murders is they have to be fair if they're going to be solvable and Umineko lays out the rules for each closed room in the red text. It tells you how many keys exist to a room, how many entry points there are, whether the door can be locked without a key, and so on. But of course a witch turning into butterflies and entering through the keyhole doesn't contradict any of those things .That said, I'm rubbish at solving murder mysteries and just buckled in for the ride when I read through it.
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The thank you image doesn't really have anything to do with anything, it's just an artsy picture. Unless you think Kinzo is really 20 feet tall. I wouldn't put it past Kinzo. And yesssss, episode 3 is my favorite of the first 4 episodes.
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Remember, though, that Rosa, Maria, Genji, and Battler (and Kinzo) aren't listed as dead at the end of episode 2, they are missing because they have been invited to the Golden Land . 
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Jun 27, 2014 18:01
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All the Ushiromiya kids had a hard life and it's amazing none of them took the time to poison Kinzo's absinthe. RK07 has a depressingly good hold on how to write abusive family dynamics.
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Paracelsus posted:On the other hand, Nanjo is something like friends with Kinzo. That requires a certain amount of crazy to override the self-preservation instincts that would ordinarily prevent such a thing from happening. He's also been the family physician for decades, think of all the times he's had to patch up the kids after Kinzo played Punch Out on their faces .
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This upcoming scene is my favorite in the first 4 episodes, I think. I admit, when I first read this my eyes just glossed over all talk of Hempel's Raven and paradoxes and such. I'm the kind of person RK07 hates, because I just stopped thinking and waited for the game to tell me the answer. All this talk between Battler, Beatrice, and the demons is a way to get the reader to start thinking about other possibilities.
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The strength of Umineko's writing is the characters, and especially it's rarer to see well-developed adult characters in a lot of stories, popular comics/animation stories especially. The hot-blooded young teenager or 20-something is well-known, but a middle aged business mother gets less play. Even accepting some issues with characterization, most of the female characters in particular are done well.
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