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Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

kw0134 posted:

I guess I'll approve so we can get this ball rolling finally.

CthuluDreams: What are you looking for in your Hack Wilson? I've got a Greg Maddux, Nomar Garciaparra and other fine pieces you can probably use looking at your roster and trade history.

What year on Maddux?

Realistically though I have a bunch of randoms (literally!) that can take 1B until the expansion draft, so I'm probably looking for a blockbuster deal on an Left or Right outfielder. A pure power slugger who will never set foot on the field is an option, but much less preferred.

Equally I can hock Speaker and not Hack, both are great centrefielders and I can always find a DH later.

Trade Bait Update

So I rummaged around in my feeder teams in anticipation of having a sudden Jimmiee Foxx shaped hole at first base and found a bunch of good stuff, and while none of it is a First Baseman of Legend, Hall of Famer Pitcher Lon Warneke and hall of Fame Right Fielder Harry Hooper are on the block. Lon is probably to young to be anything other than a speculative bet but Harry Hooper was a real major leaguer at this point.

Other stuff (More outfielders, pitching) in this post: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3499603&pagenumber=1#post406227341

I still want your bullpen arms.

Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Aug 6, 2012

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BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

Viscount Slim posted:

Hey-ho, it's back to the well we go!

1971 Giants (4)
1979 Cardinals (2)
1986 Braves (1)
and from last try...
1934 White Sox (1)
1943 Cubs (1)
1991 Astros (1)

C 79 Ted Simmons
C 71 Dick Dietz
UT 91 Craig Biggio
(They can hit)
1B 71 Willie McCovey
1B 79 Keith Hernandez
1B 91 Jeff Bagwell
UT 43 Phil Cavaretta
(A Hall guy, a great defender, and a lottery ticket - and Cavvy, who's a solid pinch hitter or bench player)
2B 43 Eddie Stankey
(great patience)
SS 34 Luke Appling
(Hall of Fame shortstop)
3B 43 Stan Hack
(Solid)
LF 34 Al Simmons
(another Hall player - about to decline but still 133 career OPS+)
CF 71 Willie Mays
CF 86 Dale Murphy
(Willie is 40 but still Willie Mays - Murphy can handle it if Willie breaks down - power and Gold Gloves)
RF 43 Bill Nicholson
RF 71 Bobby Bonds
(probably a platoon - not stellar, but very capable)
4OF 79 Gary Hendrick
IF 79 Ken Oberkfell

AAA 91 Kenny Lofton (prospect)

Just missed:
COF 86 Ken Griffey Sr (is 36)
4OF 43 Andy Pafko (is a rookie)
IF 86 Ken Oberkfell (one copy of a utility infielder you hope doesn't have to start ever is enough)

SP 71 Juan Marichal
SP 71 Gaylord Perry
SP 34 Ted Lyons
(three Hall of Famers mid-career)
SP 86 Doyle Alexander
SP 43 Claude Passeau
(All-Stars with a pulse)

Bullpen:
71 Steve Hamilton
86 Bruce Sutter
86 Gene Garber
86 Paul Assenmacher
86 Duane Ward
43 Lon Warneke

AAA 43 Paul Derringer (spare starter)
AAA 91 Curt Schilling (prospect)

This is, in fact, 28 in the majors, plus three in the minors and the "just missed" guys, but I figure you other gentlemen can help!

We could use a better backup plan at SS/3B (Biggio is the backup plan at 2B), but we have some good trade chips. Thoughts?

I'll approve this.

ForeverBWFC
Oct 19, 2011

Oh, the lads! You should've seen 'em running!
Ask 'em why and they reply the Bolton Boys are coming! All the lads and lasses, smiles upon their faces,

WALKING DOWN THE MANNY ROAD, TO SEE THE BURNDEN ACES!
I am no longer away in the land of nod, so I shall also approve.

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

Just to keep this rolling, I preapprove all of our initial slider choices and stadium dimensions. Aesthetic details such as logo/banner I'd like to see first. (Yes, the important things when running a team.)

I suggest we appoint one of the partners to act as GM for day-to-day needs like roster moves in light of injuries. I'd also empower this person to explore trades as opportunity and need arise, with final approval still subject to vote by a proper quorum of partners. For the sake of needless drama, any single partner can object to any move and effectively countermand the GM. I nominate Viscount Slim for this if he's willing, and if he's not I've got free time and I check up on the thread daily anyway.

---

Cthulu Dreams: Maddux is vintage 2004. For corner outfielders, I've got lots of pieces: hall of famers Gwynn and Rice, Sammy Sosa and Moises Alou (who has a ridiculous .440 OBP for me this season), and maybe, maybe if you're willing to give up something interesting, Barry Bonds. No relief pitching I'm afraid.

Ordius
Aug 4, 2012

cbx posted:

Ordius: I want Ty Cobb. If you're interested in trading, what are you looking for? I have some great starting pitching (I don't think Oil Can Boyd is gonna pan out for you and I don't know what your backup plan is...), and whatever else might tickle your fancy. Let me know.

Ty Cobb is one of the best hitters of all time. You're going to have to blow me away.

If I'm being optimistic, I'm looking for a modern pitcher to replace a deadballer, a comparative top CF and a cherry on top, so.

Cobb can go for that Doug Fister, Mickey Mantle, and... Roger Maris.

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
:siren:Trade Offer!:siren:

Tigres de San Juan receive:
'65 Harmon Killebrew

Antarctic Unspecifieds receive:
'43 Bill Dickey


OR

Tigres de San Juan receive:
'65 Harmon Killebrew
'65 Earl Battey

Antarctic Unspecifieds receive:
'01 Ivan Rodriguez

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Team Name: Longshots

Team Logo:

Home City: Philadelphia

Home Stadium: Citizens Bank Park

DH Preference: Pitchers hitting dingers own

28-Man Roster:

C – Andy Seminick (1950 Phillies)
C – Jimmie Wilson (1926 Phillies)
1B – George Scott (1967 Red Sox)
2B - Mark Ellis (2002 A’s)
SS – Miguel Tejada (2002 A’s)
3B – Eric Chavez (2002 A’s)
UTIL – Mike Andrews (1967 Red Sox)
UTIL – Carlos Pena (2002 A’s)
UTIL - Rico Petrocelli (1967 Red Sox)
OF – Carl Yastrzemski (1967 Red Sox)
OF - Tony Conigliaro (1967 Red Sox)
OF – Richie Ashburn (1950 Phillies)
OF – Cy Williams (1926 Phillies)
OF – Jermiane Dye (2002 A’s)
SP – Robin Roberts (1950 Phillies)
SP – Jim Lonborg (1967 Red Sox)
SP – Curt Simmons (1950 Phillies)
SP – Barry Zito (2002 A’s)
SP – Tim Hudson (2002 A’s)
Longman/RP - Dutch Ulrich (1926 Phillies)
RP – Chad Bradford (2002 A’s)
RP – Ricardo Rincon (2002 A’s)
RP – Mike Venafro (2002 A’s)
RP – Sparky Lyle (1967 Red Sox)
CL - Jim Konstanty (1950 Phillies)

Minors
SP – Mark Mulder (2002 A’s)
SP – Hal Carlson (1926 Phillies)
UTIL – Granny Hammer (1950 Phillies)

Lineups:
v RHP

1. Richie Ashburn
2. Eric Chavez
3. Carl Yastrzemski
4. Andy Seminick
5. Miguel Tejada
6. Tony Conigliaro
7. George Scott
8. Mark Ellis
9. Pitcher

v LHP

1. Richie Ashburn
2. Eric Chavez
3. Carl Yastrzemski
4. Tony Conigliaro
5. Andy Seminick
6. Miguel Tejada
7. George Scott
8. Mark Ellis
9. Pitcher

Pitching Rotation:
SP – Robin Roberts (1950 Phillies)
SP – Jim Lonborg (1967 Red Sox)
SP – Curt Simmons (1950 Phillies)
SP – Barry Zito (2002 A’s)
SP – Tim Hudson (2002 A’s)

Longman/RP - Dutch Ulrich (1926 Phillies)
RP – Chad Bradford (2002 A’s)
RP – Ricardo Rincon (2002 A’s)
RP – Mike Venafro (2002 A’s)
RP – Sparky Lyle (1967 Red Sox)
CL - Jim Konstanty (1950 Phillies)

Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5)

Hit and Run: -3
Sacrifice Bunt: -5 (gently caress Bunting)
Squeeze Play: 0
Trying for extra bases: 0
Stealing Bases: 0
Aggressively Tagging Up: 0
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 0
Giving Intentional Walks: 0
Pitching Around Good Hitters: 0
Bringing the Infield In: 0
Guarding the Lines: 0
Making Cutoff Throws: 0
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: +3
Bringing in Pinch Runners: +3
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +3
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 0
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 0

Note: Lineups and pitching rotation are subject to change. I am bad at lineups

Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Aug 6, 2012

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.

Ordius posted:

Ty Cobb is one of the best hitters of all time. You're going to have to blow me away.

If I'm being optimistic, I'm looking for a modern pitcher to replace a deadballer, a comparative top CF and a cherry on top, so.

Cobb can go for that Doug Fister, Mickey Mantle, and... Roger Maris.

Don't you already have a poo poo-ton of outfielders on your roster? I'm giving away two of my best in this deal, plus a decent pitcher, when you could just pull from your feeders and have a competent outfield. I'd want something more from this. If I'm giving up both Mantle and Maris, then I want Sam Crawford thrown in, along with Tom Seaver.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Smasher Dynamo posted:

Revenant Threshold

If you're starting Elbie Fletcher at first, you're doing something wrong. Now, let's unscramble this. Bubba Trammell has no business in the Super-League, and his spot should be filled with young Jermaine Dye or young Johnny Damon. And I'd rather have Mike Sweeney than Jose Canseco, while we're at it. And, hey, since we're having fun, I'd rather have Jay Bell from the Royals play second, or Freddy Sanchez from the Giants. And, you know what, let's keep going at take Buster Posey from the Giants over Tex Erwin.

And, also maybe find places for Wilbur Cooper and Max Carey from the Pirates. And you'll want to take Josh Beckett from the Marlins instead of Pavano.
Haha. "Just... just change the entire squad, really." I'm assuming you didn't start on my pitching choices out of some sense of mercy. I've made alterations.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

Revenant Threshold posted:

Haha. "Just... just change the entire squad, really." I'm assuming you didn't start on my pitching choices out of some sense of mercy. I've made alterations.

I'm definitely interested in your 1919 Max Carey and young Damon.

I have a hell of a power guy at first or RF in '85 Jack Clark. What do you say?

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

NotThatSamBeckett posted:

I'm definitely interested in your 1919 Max Carey and young Damon.

I have a hell of a power guy at first or RF in '85 Jack Clark. What do you say?
It's an intriguing offer, certainly. I'd like to see if Smasher has some opinion on a trade first, though.

blackmongoose
Mar 31, 2011

DARK INFERNO ROOK!

tatankatonk posted:

:siren:Trade Offer!:siren:

Tigres de San Juan receive:
'65 Harmon Killebrew

Antarctic Unspecifieds receive:
'43 Bill Dickey


OR

Tigres de San Juan receive:
'65 Harmon Killebrew
'65 Earl Battey

Antarctic Unspecifieds receive:
'01 Ivan Rodriguez

I'll agree to Killebrew for Dickey unless Smasher (or one of my players) tells me I'm being a huge idiot.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

I'm confident I speak for the Rated R Superstars partnership when I say we can trade Schalk. However we haven't formed a trade position yet, so suggest some stuff.

Speaking for the Cultists, I can definately sell Tony Womack - or you might prefer Mike Aviles from the 2009 KCR - got any relievers? If you want a catcher, Miguel Olivo from the 2009 KCR might work as well. I will check my other feeders too.

Well, for Womack I could offer Dyar Miller. reliever, career ERA+ 114.

For Schalk, I don't really have a sense of the Supastar needs, except maybe someone to replace Colby Rasmus.

Both of these guys cannot hit at all, so aren't worth much at all, but I want their...athleticism.

mrnoun
Jul 24, 2007

tatankatonk posted:

:siren:Trade Offer!:siren:

Tigres de San Juan receive:
'65 Harmon Killebrew

Antarctic Unspecifieds receive:
'43 Bill Dickey


OR

Tigres de San Juan receive:
'65 Harmon Killebrew
'65 Earl Battey

Antarctic Unspecifieds receive:
'01 Ivan Rodriguez


Listen not to this untrustworthy one! You can do better!

As Smasher has said, you need better defensive infielders and more pitching. Let me provide:

The Luna Landers offer:
1970 Jim Fregosi
1946 Bob Feller
2004 David Ortiz

Fregosi, a former Gold Glove shortstop who had a 2.4 defensive WAR and a 127 OPS+ in 1970.
Feller, at his 348-strikeout, 151 ERA+ peak.
And Ortiz at HIS peak, to replace some of the hitting your giving up.

The Antarctic Unspecifieds offer:
1965 Harmon Killebrew
1918 Rogers Hornsby
1918 Bill Sherdel

Killebrew, a defensive liability with a really good bat, but in an injury plagued down year. I want him mainly to keep him from my division rivals.
Hornsby, who's only 21 and can't really play shortstop defensively despite his loving amazing bat, is the key piece for me -- I've been trying to upgrade 2nd base forever and a day.
And Sherdel, who you aren't using, just to keep my pitching staff from getting shorthanded from giving up Feller.

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."
Super-League Registration closes at midnight (CDT) tonight!


Super-League Registration is open!

Super-League VII will consist of at least 24 teams, with the ten strongest teams from Super-League VI guaranteed spots in the next season.

Team Construction

Okay, so you want to make a team. How do you do it? Well, in this post is a big, big list of historical teams from 1901 to 2011. I've graded them out on a five-point scale based on the quality of talent on each team. Each new owner will select ten points worth of teams, they'll form the pool of players you'll use to build a 28-man roster, ideally taking the best players from each of the teams to create some sort of Super-Team. You can take as many or as few teams as you wish, so long as the total points are ten or less.

Information on how to read the stats are included in the first post. Just know that knowing a lot about baseball is both more and less helpful than you might think. Go to #TheSuperLeague on IRC if you have any questions. Just remember, most of the guys there are going to be your competition, so don't be too trusting.

Returning Owners

Any owner relegated in an earlier Super-League not currently an owner and encouraged to rejoin the league and wreak their bloody revenge on those that once cast them down. They will need to make new teams, though.

New Owner Form

Fill out Now

This needs to be done to secure a spot in the Super-League

Teams Selected:

Pick ten points worth of teams (eleven points for people who have never owned a Super-League team before), spread out over as many teams as you'd like. Hell, you could have ten one-point teams if you really wanted.

Fill Out Soon

These items also need to be filled out, but not immediately, just as soon as you have some spare time

Team Name:

Team Logo (150x150 preferred):

Home City:

Home Stadium:
(Give me the dimensions and playing surface if it's a custom stadium)

DH Preference:

28-Man Roster:

25 in the majors, 3 in the minors

Lineups:

Pitching Rotation:

Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5)

Hit and Run:
Sacrifice Bunt:
Squeeze Play:
Trying for extra bases:
Stealing Bases:
Aggressively Tagging Up:
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases):
Giving Intentional Walks:
Pitching Around Good Hitters:
Bringing the Infield In:
Guarding the Lines:
Making Cutoff Throws:
Bringing in Pinch Hitters:
Bringing in Pinch Runners:
Bringing in Defensive Replacements:
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest:
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble:
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts:

The List o' Teams

The Big, Big List of Available Teams


Five-Point Teams

1910 Philadelphia Athletics, 102-48, World Series Champs
1953 New York Yankees, 99-52, World Series Champs
1971 Oakland A's, 101-60, AL West Champs
1993 Atlanta Braves, 104-58, NL West Champs

Four-Point Teams

1919 Chicago White Sox, 88-52, AL Champs
1930 Chicago Cubs, 90-64, 2nd in NL
1933 Washington Senators, 99-53, AL Champs
1938 Chicago Cubs, 89-63, NL Champs
1954 Cleveland Indians, 111-43, AL Champs
1954 New York Giants, 97-57, World Series Champs
1965 Minnesota Twins, 102-60, AL Champs
1971 San Fransisco Giants, 90-72, NL West Champs
1981 Los Angeles Dodgers, 63-47, World Series Champs
1982 Milwaukee Brewers, 95-67, AL Champs
1984 Detroit Tigers, 104-58, World Series Champs
1986 Boston Red Sox, 95-66, AL Champs
1986 California Angels, 92-70, AL West Champs
1992 Toronto Blue Jays, 96-66, World Series Champs
1994 Montreal Expos, 74-40, NL East Champs
1995 New York Yankees, 79-65, AL East Champs
2002 Oakland Athletics, 103-59, AL West Champs As seen in Moneyball!
2009 St. Louis Cardinals, 91-71, NL Central Champs!
2010 Tampa Bay Rays, 96-66, AL East Champs
2011 Milwaukee Brewers, 96-66, NL Central Champs!
2011 Texas Rangers, 96-66, AL Champs

Three-Point Teams

1902 Cleveland Bronchos, 69-67, 5th in AL
1910 Detroit Tigers, 86-68, 3rd in AL
1917 Cleveland Indians, 88-66, 3rd in AL
1929 Pittsburgh Pirates, 88-65, 2nd in NL
1943 St. Louis Cardinals, 105-49, NL Champs
1948 Boston Braves, 91-62, NL Champs
1950 Philadelphia Phillies, 91-63, NL Champs
1960 Milwaukee Braves, 88-66, 2nd in NL
1967 Boston Red Sox, 92-70, AL Champs
1975 New York Yankees, 83-77, 3rd in AL East
1978 Baltimore Orioles, 90-71, 4th in AL East
1978 California Angels, 87-75, 2nd in AL West
1985 Cincinnati Reds, 89-72, 2nd in NL West
1985 St. Louis Cardinals, 101-61, NL Champs
1993 Texas Rangers, 86-76, 2nd in AL West
2003 Seattle Mariners, 93-69, 2nd in AL West
2006 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, 89-73, 2nd in AL West
2008 Chicago White Sox, 89-74, AL Central Champs
2011 San Francisco Giants, 86-76, 2nd in NL West
2012 Washington Nationals, 63-43, 1st in NL East

Two-Point Teams

1911 Boston Red Sox, 78-75, 4th in AL
1917 Washington Senators, 74-79, 5th in AL
1918 New York Yankees, 60-63, 4th in AL
1918 St. Louis Cardinals, 51-78, 8th in NL
1922 St. Louis Browns, 93-61, 2nd in AL
1928 Boston Red Sox, 57-96, 8th in AL
1931 Detroit Tigers, 61-93, 7th in AL
1940 Pittsburgh Pirates, 78-76, 4th in NL
1941 Cincinnati Reds, 88-66, 3rd in NL
1948 Detroit Tigers, 78-76, 5th in AL
1964 Los Angeles Angels, 82-80, 5th in AL
1970 Atlanta Braves, 76-86, 5th in NL West
1970 Houston Astros, 79-83, 4th in NL West
1978 Pittsburgh Pirates, 88-73, 2nd in NL East
1979 St. Louis Cardinals, 86-76, 3rd in NL East
1979 Texas Rangers, 83-79, 3rd in AL West
1986 Cleveland Indians, 84-78, 5th in AL East
1986 Texas Rangers, 87-75, 2nd in AL West
1990 San Fransisco Giants, 85-77, 3rd in NL West
1992 New York Mets, 72-90, 5th in NL East
1992 St. Louis Cardinals, 83-79, 3rd in NL East
1995 Cincinnati Reds, 85-59, NL Central Champs
1996 Florida Marlins, 80-82, 3rd in NL East
2001 Chicago White Sox, 83-79, 3rd in AL Central
2003 Arizona Diamondbacks, 84-78, 3rd in NL West
2003 Montreal Expos, 83-79, 4th in NL East
2004 Florida Marlins, 83-79, 3rd in NL East
2005 New York Mets, 83-79, 3rd in NL East
2006 Toronto Blue Jays, 87-75, 3rd in AL East
2012 Pittsburgh Pirates, 60-45, 2nd in NL Central

One-Point Teams

1901 Boston Beaneaters, 69-69, 5th in NL
1902 Cincinnati Reds, 70-70, 4th in NL
1911 Brooklyn Dodgers, 64-86, 7th in NL
1919 Pittsburgh Pirates, 71-68, 4th in NL
1926 Philadelphia Phillies, 58-93, 8th in AL
1934 Chicago White Sox, 53-99, 8th in AL
1935 Philadelphia A's, 58-91, 8th in AL
1943 Chicago Cubs, 74-79, 5th in NL
1946 Washington Senators, 76-78, 4th in AL
1950 Chicago White Sox, 60-94, 6th in AL
1951 St. Louis Browns, 52-102, 8th in AL
1957 Kansas City A's, 59-94, 7th in AL
1958 Chicago Cubs 72-82, Finished 5th in NL
1966 Washington Senators, 71-88, 8th in AL
1969 Seattle Pilots 64-98, Finished 6th in AL West
1970 Chicago White Sox, 56-106, 6th in AL West
1970 San Diego Padres, 63-99, 6th in NL West
1979 Atlanta Braves, 66-94, 6th in NL West
1981 New York Mets, 41-62, 5th in NL East
1983 Minnesota Twins, 70-92, 5th in AL West
1985 Seattle Mariners, 74-88, 6th in AL West
1986 Atlanta Braves, 72-89, 6th in NL West
1986 Pittsburgh Pirates, 64-98, 6th in NL East
1989 Philadelphia Phillies, 67-95, 6th in NL East
1991 Baltimore Orioles, 67-95, 6th in AL East
1991 Houston Astros, 65-97, 6th in NL West
1993 Colorado Rockies 67-95, Finished 6th in NL West
1996 Oakland Athletics, 78-84, 3rd in AL West
1996 Pittsburgh Pirates, 73-89, 5th in NL Central
1997 Kansas City Royals, 67-94, 5th in AL Central
1997 Minnesota Twins, 68-94, 4th in AL Central
1999 Detroit Tigers, 69-92, 3rd in AL Central
1999 Tampa Bay Devil Rays, 69-93, 5th in AL East
2003 Colorado Rockies, 74-88, 4th in NL West
2007 Cincinnati Reds, 72-90, 5th in NL Central
2009 Kansas City Royals, 65-97, 4th in AL Central
2011 Arizona Diamondbacks, 94-68, 1st in NL West



Questions? PM Me, Post in the Thread or stop by the IRC Channel #TheSuperLeague.


Accepted Expansion Teams

1. Second City Saints (Senerio)
2. Ryleh [sic] Cultists (Cthulhu Dreams)
3. Archie Goodwins (Archie Goodwin)
4. Norfolk Splinter Cells (Ordius)
5. Leprechauns (Ionnracht)
6. Barrow Daydreamers (gingemidget)
7. Ted Sox(Mooseontheloose)
8. Antarctic Unspecifieds (blackmongoose)
9. Idaho Potatoes (Grinnblade)
10. Vice City Goose Eggs (Armitage)
11. Oxbridge Mathematicians (Revenant Thresholds)
12. Hakata Runnin' Ramen (Ned)
13. Polyarny Postmodernists (Notthatsambeckett)
14. Great Googly-Mooglies (The Goog)
15. Portland Bulldogs (Outrunner)
16. Poughkeepsie Superbas (nerokerubina)
17. Madison Mudholes (theacox)
18. Rated-R Superstars (Pungry/The Goog/TKBomber/Senerio/Cthulhu Dreams)
19. Philadelphia Longshots (Doop)
20. St. Paul Bearers (Bruzer/ForeverBWFC/CVE/kw0134/Koop/Viscount Slim)

mrnoun
Jul 24, 2007

blackmongoose posted:

I'll agree to Killebrew for Dickey unless Smasher (or one of my players) tells me I'm being a huge idiot.

The Dickey he's offering is 36 years old and about to retire. Your Killebrew was in a down year and struggled with injuries, but he's still in his prime. Catchers are more valuable than corner infielders, but it might not be worth it for an old guy.

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Do NOT listen to mrnoun! He is an agent of the great Satan, Matt Keough!

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Also, I mean, there's the Rodriguez deal. Whichever one he wants. But mrnoun's offer is definitely worse, he's not even offering you a catcher, which is what you need, AND he wants three players? Goodness gracious.

e: I didn't even notice he's trying to steal Hornsby from you :laffo:

tatankatonk fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Aug 6, 2012

blackmongoose
Mar 31, 2011

DARK INFERNO ROOK!
Hold my acceptance for now, IRC negotiations are currently ongoing

Ordius
Aug 4, 2012

cbx posted:

Don't you already have a poo poo-ton of outfielders on your roster? I'm giving away two of my best in this deal, plus a decent pitcher, when you could just pull from your feeders and have a competent outfield. I'd want something more from this. If I'm giving up both Mantle and Maris, then I want Sam Crawford thrown in, along with Tom Seaver.

I need to think this over. I'm not sure about losing Crawford for Maris, even though I've got a smaller ballpark and Maris has more power.

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.

Ordius posted:

I need to think this over. I'm not sure about losing Crawford for Maris, even though I've got a smaller ballpark and Maris has more power.

That's fine, I need to postpone the negotiations anyways, I just lost my 2B for the season. I'll get back to you after I figure out what I'm going to do.

OTHER EXPANSION CUP OWNERS! I am bent over a barrel here, and I have an injured 1985 Paul Molitor, in the prime of his career. Molitor posted a 122 career OPS+ and drew almost as many walks as he had strikeouts, and can play both 2B/3B. Unfortunately, he's out for the season for me. For you guys, on the other hand, he'd be fresh and new. I'm only looking for a 2B at the moment, and I have other pieces to offer like 1961 Yankee RF Roger Maris, 1968 Tiger 1B Norm Cash, and 1911 Athletic SP Chief Bender. Make me a fair offer.

cbx fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Aug 6, 2012

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012

cbx posted:

OTHER EXPANSION CUP OWNERS! I am bent over a barrel here, and I have an injured 1985 Paul Molitor, in the prime of his career. Molitor posted a 122 career OPS+ and drew almost as many walks as he had strikeouts, and can play both 2B/3B. Unfortunately, he's out for the season for me. For you guys, on the other hand, he'd be fresh and new. I'm only looking for a 2B at the moment, and I have other pieces to offer like 1961 Yankee RF Roger Maris, 1968 Tiger 1B Norm Cash, and 1911 Athletic SP Chief Bender. Make me a fair offer.

Charlie Hickman can play second. Career OPS+ 133, hit .361 in the 1902 year I have him from.

For Molly?

mrnoun
Jul 24, 2007
The Luna Landers offer:
1934 Gabby Hartnett
1970 Jim Fregosi

The Antarctic Unspecifieds offer:
1965 Harmon Killebrew
1965 Earl Battey

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.

NotThatSamBeckett posted:

Charlie Hickman can play second. Career OPS+ 133, hit .361 in the 1902 year I have him from.

For Molly?

I'm very hesitant to take on a player that Bruiser had on the Bronies. Let me consider it fully first.

blackmongoose
Mar 31, 2011

DARK INFERNO ROOK!

mrnoun posted:

The Luna Landers offer:
1934 Gabby Hartnett
1970 Jim Fregosi

The Antarctic Unspecifieds offer:
1965 Harmon Killebrew
1965 Earl Battey

Yeah, I'll confirm this. Sorry, tatankatonk, but you didn't have any shortstops to offer me

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."
The Unspecifieds-Landers trade is approved.

blackmongoose
Mar 31, 2011

DARK INFERNO ROOK!
Updated Unspecifieds Team:

Team Name: Antarctic Unspecifieds

Team Logo (150x150 preferred):

Home City: ???, Antarctica

Home Stadium: Metrodome

DH Preference: No DH

28-Man Roster:
Hitters:
C Gabby Hartnett ('34 CHC)
C Mike Gonzales ('18 STL)
1B Don Mincher ('65 MIN)
1B David Ortiz ('97 MIN)
2B Rogers Hornsby ('18 STL)
2B Chuck Knoblauch ('97 MIN)
SS Jim Fregosi ('70 CAL)
3B Pie Traynor ('29 PIT)
LF Bob Allison ('65 MIN)
CF Jimmie Hall ('65 MIN)
OF Paul Waner ('29 PIT)
OF Lloyd Waner ('29 PIT)
OF Tony Oliva ('65 MIN)
OF Walton Cruise ('18 STL)

Pitchers:
SP Camilo Pascual ('65 MIN)
SP Red Ames ('18 STL)
SP Brad Radke ('97 MIN)
SP Mudcat Grant ('65 MIN)
SP Bill Doak ('18 STL)
CL Rick Aguilera ('97 MIN)
RP Al Worthington ('65 MIN)
RP Johnny Klippstein ('65 MIN)
RP Bill Pleis ('65 MIN)
RP Eddie Guardado ('97 MIN)
RP Greg Swindell ('97 MIN)

Minors:
SP Jim Perry ('65 MIN)
SP Burleigh Grimes ('18 STL)
SP Jim Kaat ('65 MIN)

Lineups:

vs. L
Traynor, 3B
Hornsby, 2B
P. Waner, CF
Allison, LF
Hartnett, C
Oliva, RF
Mincher, 1B
Fregosi, SS
Pitcher

vs. R
Traynor, 3B
Hornsby, 2B
P. Waner, CF
Mincher, 1B
Allison, LF
Oliva, RF
Hartnett, C
Fregosi, SS
Pitcher

Pitching Rotation:

Starters:
Doak
Grant
Pascual
Ames
Radke (Use Gonzales as personal catcher)

Relievers:
CL Aguilera
SU Worthington
RP Klippstein
RP Guardado
RP Swindell
RP Pleis

Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5)

Hit and Run: 0
Sacrifice Bunt: -3
Squeeze Play: 0
Trying for extra bases: -1
Stealing Bases: -2
Aggressively Tagging Up: 0
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 1
Giving Intentional Walks: 1
Pitching Around Good Hitters: 2
Bringing the Infield In: 2
Guarding the Lines: 3
Making Cutoff Throws: 3
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 2
Bringing in Pinch Runners: 0
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 0
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: -2
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 0

Outrunner
Aug 5, 2012

cbx posted:

That's fine, I need to postpone the negotiations anyways, I just lost my 2B for the season. I'll get back to you after I figure out what I'm going to do.

OTHER EXPANSION CUP OWNERS! I am bent over a barrel here, and I have an injured 1985 Paul Molitor, in the prime of his career. Molitor posted a 122 career OPS+ and drew almost as many walks as he had strikeouts, and can play both 2B/3B. Unfortunately, he's out for the season for me. For you guys, on the other hand, he'd be fresh and new. I'm only looking for a 2B at the moment, and I have other pieces to offer like 1961 Yankee RF Roger Maris, 1968 Tiger 1B Norm Cash, and 1911 Athletic SP Chief Bender. Make me a fair offer.

I'll be more then happy to give you Lou Whitaker for Paul Molitor. Would solve my problem of playing Scott Brosius at third.

cbx
Dec 4, 2007

Smasher Dynamo's assistant of the Super-League.

Outrunner posted:

I'll be more then happy to give you Lou Whitaker for Paul Molitor. Would solve my problem of playing Scott Brosius at third.

Done.



trade

1985 Paul Molitor

for

1984 Lou Whitaker

Welcome home, Lou. Get in there at 2B and put Santiago back on the bench.

Outrunner
Aug 5, 2012
Posting my new lineup after the Molitor trade.

C: Ernie Lombardi (1941 Reds)
1B: Willie Stargell (1978 Pirates)
2B: Charlie Gehringer (1931 Tigers)
3B: Paul Molitor (1985 Brewers)
SS: Alan Trammell (1984 Tigers)
LF: Kirk Gibson (1984 Tigers)
CF: Chet Lemon (1984 Tigers)
RF: Dave Parker (1978 Pirates)
DH: Mark McGuire (1996 Athletics)

C: Terry Steinbach (1996 Athletics)
SS: Eddie Joost (1941 Reds)
3B: Howard Johnson (1984 Tigers)
OF: John Stone (1931 Tigers)
OF: Gee Walker (1931 Tigers)

SP: Bert Blyleven (1978 Pirates)
SP: Jack Morris (1984 Tigers)
SP: George Uhle (1931 Tigers)
SP: Bucky Walters (1941 Reds)
SP: Paul Derringer (1941 Reds)

CL: Kent Tekulve (1978 Pirates)
SU: Willie Hernandez (1984 Tigers)
SR: Jim Corsi (1996 Athletics)
SR: Grant Jackson (1978 Pirates)
MR: Doug Bair (1984 Tigers)
LR: Jim Bibby (1978 Pirates)

AAA: Scott Brosius (1996 Athletics)
AAA: Lance Parrish (1984 Tigers)
AAA: John Candelaria (1978 Pirates)

Lineup
2B Charlie Gehringer
CF Chet Lemon
1B Willie Stargell
DH Mark McGwire
LF Kurt Gibson
SS Alan Trammell
3B Paul Molitor
RF Dave Parker
C Ernie Lombardi

Outrunner fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Aug 6, 2012

The Goog
Aug 6, 2007

It's a Goog Day, yes it is!
This post serves as a public record of the enacted bylaws of the Rated R Superstars.

TRADING BYLAW #1: Trading Approval Thresholds
PASSED AUGUST 7, 2012 WITH APPROVAL FROM THE GOOG, SENERIO, CTHULHU DREAMS AND PUNGRY


Any owner may propose a trade of the Superstars’ assets to any other team(s). These trades require a majority vote of the Superstars' ownership to be approved. If one of the Superstars’ owners is also the owner or part-owner of another team involved in the trade, that owner may not vote on the trade; approval of this trade would then require a majority of all non-conflicted ownership holders. If there is a tie among the non-conflicted owners, the trade would not be approved.

Revisions to this rule, including elimination of this rule, must be supported with just cause and be approved by 80% of the Superstars' ownership.

OWNERSHIP BYLAW #1: Distribution of Shares
PASSED AUGUST 7, 2012 WITH APPROVAL FROM THE GOOG, SENERIO, CTHULHU DREAMS AND PUNGRY


Ownership of the Superstars will be divided into 100 shares, with each share representing an equal stake in the ownership of the team. Each of the five initial owners (TKBomber7285, Pungry, Cthulhu Dreams, The Goog, Senerio) is issued 20 shares. Owners may trade, sell, auction, donate, surrender, and in any other way divest themselves of their shares in any way they see fit. Shares may not be destroyed except in the methods specified by this bylaw, or by order of the commissioner of the Super League.

Creation of new shares must be approved by 100% of the Superstars’ ownership, except as laid out in Ownership Bylaw #2. Allocation of unowned shares must be approved by 80% of the Superstars’ ownership. If any share of the team is unowned for more than one calendar week, the share(s) will be destroyed.

Revisions to this rule, including elimination of this rule, must be supported with just cause and be approved by 80% of the Superstars’ ownership.

OWNERSHIP BYLAW #2: The 49% Rule
PASSED AUGUST 13, 2012 WITH APPROVAL FROM THE GOOG, SENERIO, CTHULHU DREAMS, PUNGRY AND TKBOMBER7285


No person, team, organization or other entity (“person”) may, directly or indirectly, control more than 49% of the ownership shares of the Rated R Superstars.

If a person comes into control of more than 49% of the Superstars' ownership, new shares will be automatically created and allocated to the other Superstars owners, in proportion to their possession of ownership shares, so that the person who had acquired more than 49% ownership sees their ownership share reduced to 49%.

Revisions to this rule, including elimination of this rule, must be supported with just cause and be approved by 80% of the Superstars' ownership.

Ownership Bylaw #1 is hereby amended. The first sentence of the second paragraph now reads “Creation of new shares must be approved by 100% of the Superstars’ ownership, except as laid out in Ownership Bylaw #2.”

BROOKLYN BRUISER BYLAW: The Idiot Rule
PASSED AUGUST 7, 2012 WITH APPROVAL FROM THE GOOG, CTHULHU DREAMS AND PUNGRY


The Superstars will not, under any circumstances, challenge the New York Macho Men without approval by 100% of the Superstars’ ownership.

The Goog fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Aug 14, 2012

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."
The Bulldogs-Bengals trade is approved.

mrnoun
Jul 24, 2007
The Luna Landers trade:
2004 Johnny Damon

The Ted Sox trade:
1948 Johnny Antonelli
1946 Eddie Yost

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

mrnoun posted:

The Luna Landers trade:
2004 Johnny Damon

The Ted Sox trade:
1948 Johnny Antonelli
1946 Eddie Yost

Trade Accepted.

Smasher Dynamo
Oct 16, 2008

Eternal Commissioner of the Super League. A new avatar. A new age, of the same old embittered Smasher that failed to escape the bonds of the SL, FM3, Johnny Hopp and Eri Yoshida "The Knuckle Princess". "The flames of Smasher's ire scorch the skies... Igniting St. Bellhorn's funeral pyre."
The Landers are making all the trades today. The Landers-Sox trade is approved.

Pete Ladd
Mar 9, 2012
Yeah, let's put a stop to that, eh?

Revenant Threshold posted:

It's an intriguing offer, certainly. I'd like to see if Smasher has some opinion on a trade first, though.

Still offering you Jack Clark for your bench player Max Carey and unused Johnny Damon and 1911 Nap Rucker. Jermaine Dye shouldn't be a starter - use the enormous patience of Clark in left. And, if (when) Panda gets hurt, or before, you can use Bob Elliott at third and Clark in right.

Clark is very good and it is because of my team's gimmick that I am not using him

e: Also, you should consider using someone from the 1911 Dodgers....

Pete Ladd fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Aug 6, 2012

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Team Name: The Ted Sox
Logo:
Location: Brookline, MA
Field: Huntington Avenue Grounds

Pos Players:

C: Ivan Rodriguez 93 Rangers
1B: Rafael Palmerio 93 Rangers
2B: Julio Franco 93 Rangers
SS: Ray Chapman 17 Indians
3B: Bob Elliot 48 Braves
CF: Tris Speaker 17 Inidans
LF: Juan Gonzalez 93 Rangers
RF: Johnny Damon 04 Red Sox

Bench OF Tommy Holmes 48 Braves
Bench IF: Eddie Stanky 48 Braves
Bench OF: Buddy Lewis 46 Senators
Bench IF: Al Dark 48 Braves
Bench C: Al Evans 46 Senators (personal catcher for Sain)

SP1: Warren Sphan 48 Braves
SP2: Stan Coveleski 17 Inidans
SP3: Johnny Sain 48 Braves
SP4: Kevin Brown 93 Rangers
SP5: Early Wynn 46 Senators

Closer: Tom Henke 93 Rangers
Short: Rob Nenn 93 Rangers
Short: Darren Oliver 93 Rangers
Middle: Red Barrett 48 Braves
Middle: Craig Leffers 93 Rangers
Long: Nolan Ryan 93 Rangers

AAA: Elmer Smith 17 Indians
AAA: Jose Canseco 93 Rangers
AAA: Kenny Rodgers 93 Rangers
AAA: Stan Spence 46 Senators

Line up:

1. RF Johnny Damon L
2. 2B Julio Franco R
3. 1B Palmerio L
4. OF Juan Gonzales R
5. CF Tris Speaker L
6. C Ivan Rodrigues R
7. SS Ray Chapman R
8. 3B Bob Elliot R
9. Pitcher

Evans Catching:

1. RF Johnny Damon L
2. 2B Julio Franco R
3. 1B Palmerio L
4. OF Juan Gonzales R
5. CF Tris Speaker L
6. 3B Bob Elliot R
7. SS Ray Chapman R
8. C Al Evans R
9. Pitcher

Sliders:

Hit and Run: 0
Sacrifice Bunt: +1
Squeeze Play: -2
Trying for extra bases: +1
Stealing Bases: +2
Aggressively Tagging Up: 0
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): +1
Giving Intentional Walks: 0
Pitching Around Good Hitters:
Bringing the Infield In: +1
Guarding the Lines: 0
Making Cutoff Throws: +1
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: +2
Bringing in Pinch Runners: +2
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +2
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -4
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: +2
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: +2

Mooseontheloose fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Aug 6, 2012

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




I'm gonna swap out 02 Jermaine Dye for 50 Del Ennis the more I think about it

Grinnblade
Sep 24, 2007


Team Name: Idaho Potatoes (obvious joke ahoy)
Location: Moscow, ID
Stadium: Kibbie Dome (renamed Kingdome)

Dimensions: Left field: 331; left-center: 376; center field: 405;right-center: 352; right field: 312; foul territory: large. Roofed dome with astroturf.

Teams used: 1953 NYY, 2006 LAA, 1991 BAL, 1985 SEA


DH preference: Yes. Very yes.

28-Man Roster
C Yogi Berra (NYY)
C Mike Napoli (LAA)
1B Kendrys Morales (LAA)
1B Sam Horn (BAL)
2B Maicer Izturis (LAA)
3B Gil McDougald (NYY)
SS Cal Ripken (BAL)
SS Phil Rizzuto (NYY)
SS Danny Tartabull (SEA)
IF Billy Martin (NYY)
LF Gene Woodling (NYY)
CF Mickey Mantle (NYY)
RF Vladimir Guerrero (LAA)
OF Dave Henderson (SEA)

Pitching
SP#1: Ed Lopat (NYY)
SP#2: Ervin Santana (LAA)
SP#3: Jered Weaver (LAA)
SP#4: Johnny Sain (NYY)
SP#5: Whitey Ford (NYY)
CL: Francisco Rodriguez (LAA)
SU: Scot Shields (LAA)
Short RP: J.C. Romero (LAA)
Short RP: Todd Frohwirth (BAL)
Middle RP: Bob Kuzava (NYY)
Long RP: Mike Mussina (BAL)

Minors: 2B Harold Reynolds (SEA), SP Mike Moore (SEA), RP Mike Flanagan (BAL)

Lineup vs Both w/DH
1) 2B Izturis
2) 3B McDougald
3) RF Guerrero
4) CF Mantle
5) 1B Moralez
6) C Berra
7) DH Napoli
8) SS Ripken
9) LF Woodling

Sliders:
Hit and Run: +1
Sacrifice Bunt: +1
Squeeze Play: -1
Trying for extra bases: 0
Stealing Bases: 0
Aggressively Tagging Up: +1
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): +1
Giving Intentional Walks: +1
Pitching Around Good Hitters: +2
Bringing the Infield In: 0
Guarding the Lines: 0
Making Cutoff Throws: +2
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: +2
Bringing in Pinch Runners: 0
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: +2
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -2
Letting pitchers pitch through trouble: -1
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 0

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Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

NotThatSamBeckett posted:

Still offering you Jack Clark for your bench player Max Carey and unused Johnny Damon and 1911 Nap Rucker. Jermaine Dye shouldn't be a starter - use the enormous patience of Clark in left. And, if (when) Panda gets hurt, or before, you can use Bob Elliott at third and Clark in right.

Clark is very good and it is because of my team's gimmick that I am not using him
Unconvinced on both Carey and Damon - how would you feel about one of those, plus Rucker?

quote:

e: Also, you should consider using someone from the 1911 Dodgers....
I suppose i'd better. Various permutations of my squad have had some, you've just caught me at a point where I don't.

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