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Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Don't have a camera handy, or i'd show you a photo of my note-covered desk after attempting to make sense of all the numbers. Coming into this as someone who knows zilch about baseball, other than occasionally a ball is hit with a bat, basically. On the plus side, I get 11 points, which i'll be using to get;

1911 Brooklyn Dodges
1919 Pittsburgh Pirates
1997 Kansas City Royals
1999 Tampa Bay Devil Rays - 1p each for 4 total
1940 Pittsburgh Pirates
2004 Florida Marlins - 2p each for 8
20(1)1 San Fransisco Giants - 3p for 11.

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Aug 4, 2012

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Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Alright, let's set this up a bit more. Because if there's one thing worse than baseball numbers, it's imaginary numbers.

Team Name: Oxbridge Mathematicians

Feeder Teams:
1911 Brooklyn Dodgers
1919 Pittsburgh Pirates
1997 Kansas City Royals
1999 Tampa Bay Devil Rays - 1p each for 4 total
1940 Pittsburgh Pirates
2004 Florida Marlins - 2p each for 8
2011 San Fransisco Giants - 3p for 11.

Trades:
Jack Clark (SLC '85) with notthatsambeckett for Max Carey (PP ' 19) and Nap Rucker (PP '19)


Team Logo:

Home City: Milton Keynes, UK

Home Stadium: The Quadrangle (dimensionally equivalent to Citi Field)

DH Preference: Yes

28-Man Roster

-Hitters (14)

Spud Davis (PP ‘40)
Buster Posey (SFG '11)
Jack Clark (SLC '85)
Jay Bell (KCR '97)
Pablo Sandoval (SFG '11)
Arky Vaughan (PP '40)
Vince DiMaggio (PP '40)
Miguel Cabrera (FM '04)
Carlos Beltran (SFG '11)
Chili Davis (KCR '97)
Hee Seop-Choi (FM '04)
Mike Lowell (FM '04)
Johnny Damon (KCR '97)
Fred McGriff (TBDR '99)

-Pitchers (11)

SP Tim Lincecum (SFG '11)
SP Josh Beckett (FM '04)
SP Wilbur Cooper (PP '19)
SP Matt Cain (SFG '11)
SP Kevin Appier (KCR '97)

CL Roberto Hernandez (TBDR '99)
RP Sergio Romo (SFG '11)
RP Jeremy Affeldt (SFG '11)
RP Brian Wilson (SFG '11)
RP Rick White (TBDR '99)
LR Madison Bumgarner (SFG '11)

-Minors (3)
Mike Sweeney (KCR '97)
Zack Wheat (BD '11)
Elbie Fletcher (PP '19)

-Lineup

1B Fred McGriff
CF Vinco DiMaggio
LF Jack Clark
DH Miguel Cabrera
RF Carlos Beltran
1B Fred McGriff
3B Pablo Sandoval
SS Arky Vaughan
2B Jay Bell
C Buster Posey


Strategy
Hit and Run: -4
Sacrifice Bunt: -3
Squeeze Play: 0
Trying for extra bases: 1
Stealing Bases: 0
Aggressively Tagging Up: -2
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2
Giving Intentional Walks: -2
Pitching Around Good Hitters: 2
Bringing the Infield In: 0
Guarding the Lines: -1
Making Cutoff Throws: -1
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2
Bringing in Pinch Runners: -3
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 1
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -2
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: -2
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -1

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Aug 7, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Smasher Dynamo posted:

Revenant Threshold

If you're starting Elbie Fletcher at first, you're doing something wrong. Now, let's unscramble this. Bubba Trammell has no business in the Super-League, and his spot should be filled with young Jermaine Dye or young Johnny Damon. And I'd rather have Mike Sweeney than Jose Canseco, while we're at it. And, hey, since we're having fun, I'd rather have Jay Bell from the Royals play second, or Freddy Sanchez from the Giants. And, you know what, let's keep going at take Buster Posey from the Giants over Tex Erwin.

And, also maybe find places for Wilbur Cooper and Max Carey from the Pirates. And you'll want to take Josh Beckett from the Marlins instead of Pavano.
Haha. "Just... just change the entire squad, really." I'm assuming you didn't start on my pitching choices out of some sense of mercy. I've made alterations.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

NotThatSamBeckett posted:

I'm definitely interested in your 1919 Max Carey and young Damon.

I have a hell of a power guy at first or RF in '85 Jack Clark. What do you say?
It's an intriguing offer, certainly. I'd like to see if Smasher has some opinion on a trade first, though.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

NotThatSamBeckett posted:

Still offering you Jack Clark for your bench player Max Carey and unused Johnny Damon and 1911 Nap Rucker. Jermaine Dye shouldn't be a starter - use the enormous patience of Clark in left. And, if (when) Panda gets hurt, or before, you can use Bob Elliott at third and Clark in right.

Clark is very good and it is because of my team's gimmick that I am not using him
Unconvinced on both Carey and Damon - how would you feel about one of those, plus Rucker?

quote:

e: Also, you should consider using someone from the 1911 Dodgers....
I suppose i'd better. Various permutations of my squad have had some, you've just caught me at a point where I don't.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Trades count as getting some use out of them, I think. Yeah, consider it a done deal.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
I've been updating my original version so I have it all written down someplace, but here's a more up to date one.

Originally formed as the result of a bet between two wealthy scions of opposing colleges, the Oxford Mathematicians were created as a testament to the overbearing colonialist attitudes pervasive within certain sects of those hallowed universities. After all, what the Americans can do, the British can do better! Yeah, that didn't work too well.

Years later the team limps on largely as a joint practical exercise by professors at both Oxford and Cambridge in advanced numerical studies, sustained by bequests the origins of which are only described in tobacco- and wine-stained tomes. In actuality this means graduate students are occasionally sent notes to deliver or money to drop off, and told to go carry that box of equipment, but everyone presumably learns something, and that's the main thing.

Rumours that this unsupervised exercise added to the pressure of exams has led a to rampant belief in numerology in coaching staff, and an emerging numeric priesthood among the tenured, are strictly denied.

Team Name: Oxbridge Mathematicians

Feeder Teams:
1911 Brooklyn Dodgers
1919 Pittsburgh Pirates
1997 Kansas City Royals
1999 Tampa Bay Devil Rays - 1p each for 4 total
1940 Pittsburgh Pirates
2004 Florida Marlins - 2p each for 8
2011 San Fransisco Giants - 3p for 11.

Trades:
Jack Clark (SLC '85) with notthatsambeckett for Max Carey (PP ' 19) and Nap Rucker (PP '19)
Joe Gordon (NYY '43) with tatankatonk for Armando Benitez and AJ Burnett (both FM '04) and Dan Runzler (SFG '11)
Dick Dietz (ATL '73) with the St. Paul Bearers conglomerate for Roberto Hernandez (TBDR '99)
Chick Stahl (BOS '02) with The Goog for Santiago Casillas (SFG '11)


Team Logo:

Home City: Milton Keynes, UK

Home Stadium: The Quadrangle (dimensionally equivalent to Citi Field)

DH Preference: Yes

28-Man Roster

-Hitters (14)

Dick Dietz (ATL '73) (from trade)
Buster Posey (SFG '11)
Jack Clark (SLC '85) (from trade)
Jay Bell (KCR '97)
Pablo Sandoval (SFG '11)
Arky Vaughan (PP '40)
Vince DiMaggio (PP '40)
Miguel Cabrera (FM '04)
Carlos Beltran (SFG '11)
Jose Canseco (TBDR '99)
Joe Gordon (NYY '43) (from trade)
Fred McGriff (TBDR '99)
Zack Wheat (BD '11)
Chick Stahl (BOS '02) (from trade)

-Pitchers (11)

SP Tim Lincecum (SFG '11)
SP Matt Cain (SFG '11)
SP Madison Bumgarner (SFG '11)
SP Babe Adams (PP '19)
SP Josh Beckett (FM '04)

CL Brian Wilson (SFG '11)
SU Sergio Romo (SFG '11)
SR Jeremy Affeldt (SFG '11)
MR Ramon Ramirez (SFG '11)
MR Rick White (TBDR '99)
LR Wilbur Cooper (PP '19)

-Minors (3)
Mike Sweeney (KCR '97)
Mike Lowell (FM '04)
Bob Elliott (PP'40)

-Lineups

Against LHP
2B Joe Gordon
SS Arky Vaughan
1B Jack Clark
LF Miguel Cabrera
DH Jose Canseco
RF Carlos Beltran
C Buster Posey
3B Pablo Sandoval
CF Vince DiMaggio

Against RHP
2B Jay Bell
SS Arky Vaughan
CF Vince DiMaggio
1B Miguel Cabrera
DH Fred McGriff
LF Zack Wheat
C Buster Posey
RF Carlos Beltran
3B Pablo Sandoval

Strategy
Hit and Run: -4
Sacrifice Bunt: -3
Squeeze Play: 0
Trying for extra bases: 1
Stealing Bases: -1
Aggressively Tagging Up: -2
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -2
Giving Intentional Walks: -2
Pitching Around Good Hitters: 3
Bringing the Infield In: 0
Guarding the Lines: -1
Making Cutoff Throws: -1
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 0
Bringing in Pinch Runners: -1
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 1
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -2
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: -1
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -2

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Aug 20, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

theacox posted:

This is a monster lineup, what with The Crime Dog leading off and in the 6 hole.
Hey, it takes more than one bite out of crime to finish it off.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Hi there, owners. I'm looking for a good 2B, preferably a righty. In return, I have pitchers, starting but particularly relief, and a few odds and ends knocking about you may be interested in but which I do not have the knowledge to recognise. Tempt, tempt.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

gingemidget posted:

Signing my own death warrant in all likelyhood here, but 24 teams has proven itself as a great format.
This would be my thoughts too.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
1:I want my team...
C. To not completely suck.

2:The core of a successful Super-League team is...

E. A couple of good players who don't die and a lot of luck.

3:Your team is middling. But, if you take a certain risk, it may become a contender, or may be relegated after the season. If you do nothing, your team will probably survive, but certainly won't win a championship. Do you...

B. Hold off on the risk! They'll be time enough to perfect the team in the offseason!

4:Is Marauder evil?

E. My answer to this was going to be that only history is a true and fair judge, but then a mysterious box appeared next to me, a decrepit, decaying figure falling out, who after being told on a question what year it was immediately expired, his last words a string of mixed curses and desperate thanks given that he could die in a time as yet untainted by the demon. So I guess yes.

5:The thesis of Moneyball is that it is incumbent on ballclubs to forever seek out market inefficiencies in order to give their team the best return on investment. What is the greatest market inefficiency in the Super-League today?

D. If I know what it is, wouldn't it be important for me not to publicize that information? I mean, I don't know, of course, but if I did I don't think i'd say.

6:My team sucks. What the gently caress went wrong?

A. I hosed up.

7:The best player of all time was...

A. Babe Ruth

5: My ideal castle is...

E.Airing weekly on Channel 5.

9: The biggest Hall of Fame Snub is...

D. Probably someone i've never heard of.

Question 10

E. Blake's Seven. If you've never seen it, a ragged team of ne'er-do-wells, idealists, and criminals attempt to defeat an evil empire, suffering tragedy and loss before eventually succumbing to their inevitable fate. The parallels draw themselves, I think.

11:Should Chicago forgive Steve Bartman?

C. You're totally going to kill all of teams that picked 'yes', aren't you?

12:If the Sun is one, and the Moon is two, then what is the Earth?

A. Zero

13:Will the new season of Community suck?

E: Never seen it, really, except for all the youtube clips people send me to try and interest me in it.

14:Out of all of the idiotic characters Smasher has created, the one I'd want most on my team is...

D. Is death an option? It is? Then I'll choose death.

15:What was the point of this?

D. Smasher's got to know exactly how much lunacy the lot of you can tolerate.


Bonus Essay Question
What do you do? What do you do?

If my Hover-Mazda is repaired, clearly my technical team have been infiltrated by spies from the Great Eastern Empire. The correct answer is to do nothing - if such cunning foes are aiding me, whatever they expect me to do will only benefit them in some way. Let themn inherit a scorched earth - let them own the ashes.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
The Oxbridge Mathematicians confirm the Benitez/Burnett/Runzler for Gordon deal.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Viscount Slim posted:

The St. Paul Bearers wish to trade '71 Dick Dietz, catcher to the Oxbridge Mathematicians in exchange for journeyman reliever '99 Roberto Hernandez .

kw0134 and I approve with our one-sixth shares.
Dietz for Hernandez trade confirmed on my end, pending other team getting all their owners together.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Lineups and pitching rotation for the Oxbridge Mathematicians. Full team information plus strategies are here.

-Hitters (14)

Dick Dietz (ATL '73) (from trade)
Buster Posey (SFG '11)
Jack Clark (SLC '85) (from trade)
Jay Bell (KCR '97)
Pablo Sandoval (SFG '11)
Arky Vaughan (PP '40)
Vince DiMaggio (PP '40)
Miguel Cabrera (FM '04)
Carlos Beltran (SFG '11)
Jose Canseco (TBDR '99)
Joe Gordon (NYY '43) (from trade)
Fred McGriff (TBDR '99)
Zack Wheat (BD '11)
Chick Stahl (BOS '02) (from trade)

-Pitchers (11)

SP Tim Lincecum (SFG '11)
SP Babe Adams (PP '19)
SP Wilbur Cooper (PP '19)
SP Matt Cain (SFG '11)
SP Josh Beckett (FM '04)

CL Brian Wilson (SFG '11)
SU Sergio Romo (SFG '11)
SR Jeremy Affeldt (SFG '11)
MR Ramon Ramirez (SFG '11)
MR Rick White (TBDR '99)
LR Madison Bumgarner (SFG '11)

-Minors (3)
Mike Sweeney (KCR '97)
Mike Lowell (FM '04)
Bob Elliott (PP'40)

-Lineups

Against LHP
2B Joe Gordon
DH Jose Canseco
3B Pablo Sandoval
LF Miguel Cabrera
1B Jack Clark
SS Arky Vaughan
CF Vince DiMaggio
RF Carlos Beltran
C Dick Dietz

Against RHP
2B Jay Bell
CF Vince DiMaggio
3B Pablo Sandoval
1B Miguel Cabrera
DH Fred McGriff
SS Arky Vaughan
RF Carlos Beltran
LF Zack Wheat
C Dick Dietz

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Aug 12, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
:siren: Trade Offer :siren:
Per discussion, the Oxbridge Mathematicians offer Santiago Casilla (SFG '11) to the Great Googily Mooglies for Chick Stahl (BOS '02).

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
That's a hell of an effort post.

tatankatonk posted:

Oxbridge Mathematicians
Brian Wilson, RP - Strained beard - 4 days
Hopefully he'll only be out for a couple of games, then, but until he's back everyone in my bullpen except Bumgarner moves up one spot.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

A surprisingly competent start, really. Third out of five ain't too bad, and hopefully with a few tweaks we can get on the other side of some of those close losses. So, switch Cooper out for Bumgarner, my other lefty, since I want to see how he can do anyway. I'll alter my roster post to this, but for the sake of ease could you please alter my pitching rotation to;

Lincecum
Cain
Bumgarner
Adams
Beckett

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Aug 16, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
What an annoying time to double post.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Well, poo poo, now I feel bad that I didn't sign up when those Cthulthu cultists came round. Truly, he is the saviour of us all.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008


I'm wagering you missed my post after the first month, since Bumgarner doesn't have any playing time. Anyway, could you please alter my pitching rotation to this;
Lincecum
Cain
Bumgarner
Adams
Beckett

With Cooper going to LR and I guess switch Wilson and Romo in my bullpen. I'm also altering my lineups slightly, in the hopes that I can get them to do something with the ball on occasion. The only subbing is Posey in for Dietz, as i'd like to see what he can do even if Dietz is somehow my HR leader, everything else is just rearrangement.
Against LHP
2B Joe Gordon
SS Arky Vaughan
1B Jack Clark
LF Miguel Cabrera
DH Jose Canseco
RF Carlos Beltran
C Buster Posey
3B Pablo Sandoval
CF Vince DiMaggio

Against RHP
2B Jay Bell
SS Arky Vaughan
CF Vince DiMaggio
1B Miguel Cabrera
DH Fred McGriff
LF Zack Wheat
C Buster Posey
RF Carlos Beltran
3B Pablo Sandoval

Finally, that injury. That's a problem. Until McGriff solves the crime that he himself committed and Vaughan gets better, move Bell over to SS for both lineups, and likewise Joe Gordon can take over the RHP 2B duties as well.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

My guys are winning, hitting (if only predicted), Lincecum's great so far and Bumgarner is a highly acceptable starter. I don't know if the wider gaps in other leagues suggests the top teams are great or the bottom teams aren't (or both) but at least we're starting to build up a better record. Anyway, so, changes: Wheat can swap in the batting order with Bell in my anti-righty lineup. Cain and Bumgarner in my rotation can exchange positions. Romo and Wilson in my bullpen can likewise switch places to put Romo at Closer.

As for replacing Bell at 2B... I'm hoping those defensive stats have been altered thanks to him playing badly at SS to cover for Vaughan, so we'll leave him playing there at least for one more month, I think.

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Aug 24, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
New to this, so my offers may well be terrible. Apologies if so, it's not deliberate. Putting it in this thread since it doesn't seem fair to let the other one have all the activity.

Anyway, the Mathematicians offer:
'19 Wilbur Cooper and '97 Jeff Montgomery for Mickey Lolich
'99 Jim Mecir for Pat Dobson
'11 Jake Daubert, '97 Johnny Damon and '97 Kevin Appier for Miguel Cabrera.

Note that a successful bid on that last one would give me two Cabrera(s), which I think you'll agree is in itself worth something.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

I don't know how this is happening, but eh, it's working, so no major changes.

That said, Rick White should not be a long reliever. A few shuffles plus I got a trade in, so here's my current relief lineup;
CL Romo
SU Pat Dobson, '68, from trade
SR Wilson
MR Affeldt
LR Cooper

White, for now, can get dropped down.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Well, it was nice while it lasted.

Ok, Rick White still shouldn't be a long reliever. Here's my lineup changes from my previous post;
CL Romo
SU Pat Dobson, '68, from trade
SR Wilson
MR Affeldt
LR Cooper

Although, while Bumgarner is injured, stick Cooper back into the lineup in his place temporarily. In addition, let's see what Bob Elliott can do taking over DiMaggio's position, please.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Mathematicians draft choices, since lists are apparently in this year.

19?? Josh Gibson
1939 Ted Williams
2001 Alex Rodriguez
1951 Yogi Berra
1951 Willie Mays
1985 Rickey Henderson
1978 Mike Schmidt
1975 Joe Morgan
2004 Jeff Kent
1959 Roberto Clemente
1936 Chuck Klein
1964 Ron Santo
1995 Roger Clemens

After that, BPA.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Let's do some updated draft preferences! Hooray! Mathematicians alter to;

19?? Josh Gibson
1939 Ted Williams
2001 Alex Rodriguez
1975 Joe Morgan
1951 Willie Mays
1985 Rickey Henderson
1978 Mike Schmidt
2004 Jeff Kent
1936 Chuck Klein
1959 Roberto Clemente
1964 Ron Santo
1995 Roger Clemens

Then BPA that isn't a catcher, 1B or SS or a position i've already selected in the draft.

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Sep 18, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Considering my draft changes enraged/demoralised Smasher, i'm just going to vote for whatever method causes him the least annoyance.

28-Man Roster:
-Hitters (14)
C Buster Posey '11
SS Arky Vaughan '40
1B Miguel Cabrera '04
1B Fred McGriff '99
2B Joe Morgan '75 (draftee)
2B Jay Bell '97
3B Pablo Sandoval '11
RF/1B Jack Clark '82 (draftee)
RF/1B Jack Clark '85 (trade)
CF Vince DiMaggio '40
LF Zack Wheat '11
OF Chuck Klein '36 (draftee)
OF Carlos Beltran '11
OF/3B Bob Elliott '40

-Pitchers (11)
SP Tim Lincecum '11
SP Madison Bumgarner '11
SP Matt Cain '11
SP Wilbur Cooper '19
SP Josh Beckett '04

CL Sergio Romo '11
SU Pat Dobson '66 (trade)
SR Brian Wilson '11
MR Ramon Ramirez '11
MR Jeremy Affeldt '11
LR Babe Adams '19

-Minors (3)
C Mike Sweeney '97
LF Jose Canseco '99
1B Jake Daubert '11

Lineups:

vs. LHP
2B Joe Morgan
SS Arky Vaughan
1B Jack Clark '82
RF Chuck Klein
3B Bob Elliott
LF Zack Wheat
C Buster Posey
CF Carlos Beltran
DH Jack Clark '85

vs. RHP
2B Joe Morgan
SS Arky Vaughan
1B Miguel Cabrera
RF Chuck Klein
LF Zack Wheat
3B Pablo Sandoval
C Buster Posey
CF Carlos Beltran
DH Fred McGriff

Strategy:
Hit and Run: -3
Sacrifice Bunt: -2
Squeeze Play: -3
Trying for extra bases: 0
Stealing Bases: -2
Aggressively Tagging Up: -1
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 0
Giving Intentional Walks: -1
Pitching Around Good Hitters: +2
Bringing the Infield In: 0
Guarding the Lines: 0
Making Cutoff Throws: 0
Bringing in Pinch Hitters: -2
Bringing in Pinch Runners: -2
Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -2
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: +2
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 0
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -2

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Sep 21, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Super-League loves Beltran.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Three games isn't enough yet to enter panic mode and start trading all your good players away for bad ones. Give it another update and i'm sure we'll see a flurry of posts all attempting to stop the horrors in some way.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
I'm guessing we're not really into statistically significant results territory yet, so I think i'm going to stay the course until the next update at least. Interesting to see that Lincecum and Romo have decided they'd go from my best players in the EC to murdering me. OTOH i'm getting incredibly lucky with some of those other player rolls, so.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Those pitching stats are not a happy sight.

Edit: Putting my hopes on trading it is!

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Sep 29, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Well done, mate.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Aaaand this would be the part where I realise that in taking the better of my two 2B backup options I forgot the other one was my only SS backup. Ho hum.

Joe Gordon in for Vaughan while he's out, and may God have mercy on our souls.

Edit: Emergency challenge as a solution foiled since the lowest challengeable-for SS is four-star. I really didn't think this one ahead.

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 2, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
The main issue for me is that Vaughan and Clark are both first-choice guys for me. I trade away for a new backup guy, he picks up the slack while Vaughan's gone, but then he's probably, and hopefully, never going to see another game. I'm not sure that losing Clark entirely (well, half of him) vs. sucking for 20 days is a good tradeoff for me.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Well, the anticipated sucking has begun. However, there is one area I can at least alter a bit; stick Elliott in on both sides of the lineup, since Sandoval has apparently decided he's not interested in playing at all.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Smasher Dynamo posted:

Analysis

Do you not have a backup catcher? If so, you really, really, really, really, really need to get a backup catcher.
Well, I have a pubescent Mike Sweeney, so... no.

Speaking of, though, may I use a ratings challenge on Mr. Posey based on the year he's just had? I have 2011 Posey, who had a fun season-ending injury to park his stats. 2010 Posey had a 133 OPS+, and 2012 Posey, well, you get the idea. My Posey is currently enjoying a .226 OBA - in real life, his 2010/11/12 score was .357/.368/.408. Even adjusted for Super-League awesomeness, it's a jump.

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
Point taken, Smasher. As it is it's probably worth giving a few people a rest anyway, so here's a new lineup with a few changes including Sweeney in for a while to cover a couple of games. With Vaughan out i'm basically boned for a while anyway. Thanks for the up-rating on Posey, by the way. Cabrera was playing more in accordance with his abilities than him, and I have a very young version of the guy.

vs. LHP
2B Joe Morgan
LF Zack Wheat
1B Jack Clark '82
RF Jack Clark '85
CF Bob Elliott
SS Joe Gordon, the horror, the horror
3B Pablo Sandoval
C Mike Sweeney
DH Jose Canseco

vs. RHP
2B Joe Morgan
LF Zack Wheat
RF Jack Clark '85
1B Miguel Cabrera
CF Bob Elliott
SS Joe Gordon
3B Pablo Sandoval
C Mike Sweeney
DH Jose Canseco

Everyone else; i'm in the market for a backup catcher. Extra bonus points if he can also play SS, if that's even possible of a decent player.

Revenant Threshold fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Oct 8, 2012

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

ForeverBWFC posted:

I propositioned you with Roseboro, was he not good enough to elicit a response?
I'm sorry, I didn't see that post. Having had a look at the guy, it would largely depend on what you were looking to get for him. Do you have any areas in particular you'd like to strengthen, or is there someone in particular you're interested in?

Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008

Smasher Dynamo posted:

Ballot!


Dynamo League

Catcher
Pick One
[ ] Johnny Bench (Dervishes) (.293/.348/.437, 6 HRs 1.7 WAR)

First Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Albert Pujols (Oranges) (.299/.375/.480, 6 HRs 1.0 WAR)

Second Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Eddie Collins (Imperialists) (.388/.451/.486, 1 HRs 2.0 WAR)

Third Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Eddie Mathews (Saints) (.320/.418/.580, 9 HRs 1.5 WAR)

Shortstops
Pick One
[ ] Alex Rodriguez (Superbas) (.268/.398/.489,11 HRs 2.1 WAR)

Left Fielders
Pick One
[ ] Rickey Henderson (Gumshoes) (.313/.377/.449, 5 HRs 1.4 WAR)

Center Fielders
Pick One
[ ] Jim Edmonds (Imperialists) (.309/.387/.486, 7 HRs 0.5 WAR)

Right Fielders
Pick One
[ ] Frank Robinson (Losers) (.344/.387/.591,12 HRs 1.8 WAR)

Designated Hitters
Pick One
[ ] Frank Thomas (Losers) (.349/.417/.568, 7 HRs 1.9 WAR)


Manager
Pick One
[ ] The Merry Marauder (Bangers) (Combined five finals appearances, two championships)




Smasher League

Catchers
Pick One
[ ] Josh Gibson (Potatoes) (.272/.335/.521, 10 HRs 0.5 WAR)

First Basemen
Pick One
[ ] John Olerud (Eazy W's) (.325/.418/.562, 8 HRs 2.1 WAR)

Second Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Rogers Hornsby (Comancheros) (.360/.400/.556, 5 HRs 1.7 WAR)

Third Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Wade Boggs (Juggernauts) (.387/.437/.495, 1 HRs 1.6 WAR)

Shortstops
Pick One
[ ] Hanley Ramirez (Emperors) (.315/.358/.525, 4 HRs 1.0 WAR)

Left Fielders
Pick One
[ ] Zack Wheat (Mathematicians) (.345/.416/.483, 2 HRs 2.3 WAR)

Center Fielders
Pick One
[ ] Joe DiMaggio (Landers) (.399/.473/.632, 7 HRs 1.8 WAR)

Right Fielders
Pick One
[ ] Vladimir Guerrero (S'Stars) (.335/.360/.582, 11 HRs 1.8 WAR)

Designated Hitters
Pick One
[ ] Stan Musial (Cultists) (.336/.418/.580, 5 HRs 1.6 WAR)

Manager
Pick One
[ ] CthulhuDreams (Cultists) (All smarts, no hearts)

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Revenant Threshold
Jan 1, 2008
The mills of Lincecum grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly small. Hopefully. That paraphrasing may have been an attempt to get a nice segue into praising Wheat which I couldn't actually work out well enough, or it might not.

Anyway, that looks plausibly like Vaughan is back now, which will call for some rearranging now that others have rested and after I figure out why my desperation roster has clawed us back up to second.

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