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theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
I'll take a spot if you have room for a noob.

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theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
In that case, the Madison Mudholes would like to reserve:

2011 Brewers
1943 Cardinals
1996 Marlins
2012 Pirates

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Team Name: Madison Mudholes
Logo:
Location: Madison, WI
Stadium: US Cellular Field
DH Preference: yes

Teams:
2011 Brewers (4)
1943 Cardinals (3)
1996 Marlins (2)
2012 Pirates (2)

Roster:
C:Walker Cooper (1943 Cardinals)
1B:Prince Fielder (2011 Brewers )
2B:Neil Walker (2012 Pirates)
3B:Whitey Kurowski (1943 Cardinals)
SS:Edgar Renteria (1996 Marlins)
LF:Ryan Braun (2011 Brewers)
CF:Andrew McCutchen (2012 Pirates)
RF:Stan Musial (1943 Cardinals)
DH:Gary Sheffield (1996 Marlins)

Bench:
C:Jon Lucroy (2011 Brewers)
2B:Rickie Weeks (2011 Brewers)
3B:Pedro Alvarez (2012 Pirates)
OF:Devon White (1996 Marlins)

Rotation:
SP:Howie Pollet (1943 Cardinals)
SP:Kevin Brown (1996 Marlins)
SP:Max Lanier (1943 Cardinals)
SP:Yovani Gallardo (2011 Brewers)
SP:Al Leiter (1996 Marlins)

Bullpen:
CL:Rob Nenn (1996 Marlins)
SU:Francisco Rodriguez (2011 Brewers)
SR:John Axford (2011 Brewers )
SR:Jason Grilli (2012 Pirates)
MR:Harry Brecheen (1943 Cardinals)
LR:LaTroy Hawkins (2011 Brewers )
LR:Jared Hughes (2012 Pirates)

AAA:
RF:Corey Hart (2011 Brewers)
1B:Ray Sanders (1943 Cardinals)
UT:Garret Jones (2012 Pirates)
RP:Brad Lincoln (2012 Pirates)


Lineup:
Neil Walker
Whitey Kurowski
Stan Musial
Ryan Braun
Prince Fielder
Gary Sheffield
Andrew McCutchen
Walker Cooper
Edgar Renteria




Strategy

Hit and Run:2
Sacrifice Bunt:0
Squeeze Play:-1
Trying for extra bases:2
Stealing Bases:0
Aggressively Tagging Up:2
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases):0
Giving Intentional Walks:-1
Pitching Around Good Hitters:-2
Bringing the Infield In:2
Guarding the Lines:3
Making Cutoff Throws:4
Bringing in Pinch Hitters:2
Bringing in Pinch Runners:-1
Bringing in Defensive Replacements:0
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest:0
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble:1
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts:1

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

Revenant Threshold posted:



-Lineup

1B Fred McGriff
CF Vinco DiMaggio
LF Jack Clark
DH Miguel Cabrera
RF Carlos Beltran
1B Fred McGriff
3B Pablo Sandoval
SS Arky Vaughan
2B Jay Bell
C Buster Posey


This is a monster lineup, what with The Crime Dog leading off and in the 6 hole.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
The weak must pay! 24 teams!

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
1.C
2.D
3.B
4.D
5.D
6.A
7.D
8.A
9.E Pete Rose
10.B
11.C
12.D
13.A
14.D
15.B
16.Hover-Mazda? What happened to my rocket-propelled zeppelin?

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Good God! I expected my rotation to be bad, but not this bad! Anybody with extra ok starters should contact me.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.


Swap Gallardo and Pollett. Pollett can't possibly be worse, right? RIGHT???:ohdear:

Put White at leadoff and McCutcheon on the bench. Replace Corey Hart with Gary Sheffield and bat him 6th, moving Walker Cooper to 7th.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
I think the Mudholes' hitting lineup is, well, not horrifying except for their defense.

The pitching staff could use a lot of work, though. I know I need starters, but the pen seems pretty mediocre as well. I'm assuming I should focus on the rotation and pick up an RP if there are any decent ones left?

Also, do the players selected in the draft just get added to our rosters or do we need to make corresponding drops?

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Before I forget, the Mudholes list should go something like this:

Best SP available
Best 2B available
Best SP available
Best, um, SS available
Best RP available


If I get the time to research, I'll post again with actual preferred players.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

I mean, really. How bad can a team actually be?


Roster:
C:Walker Cooper (1943 Cardinals)
1B:Prince Fielder (2011 Brewers )
2B:Red Schoendienst (1949 Cardinals)
3B:Whitey Kurowski (1943 Cardinals)
SS:Edgar Renteria (1996 Marlins)
LF:Ryan Braun (2011 Brewers)
CF:Andrew McCutchen (2012 Pirates)
RF:Stan Musial (1943 Cardinals)
DH:Gary Sheffield (1996 Marlins)

Bench:
C:Jon Lucroy (2011 Brewers)
2B:Rickie Weeks (2011 Brewers)
OF:Devon White (1996 Marlins)
SS:Neil Walker (2012 Pirates)

Rotation:

SP:Howie Pollet (1943 Cardinals)
SP:Kevin Brown (1996 Marlins)
SP:Al Leiter (1996 Marlins)
SP:Roger Clemens (1995 Red Sox)
SP:Bob Lemon (1946 Indians)

Bullpen:
CL:Rob Nenn (1996 Marlins)
SU:John Axford (2011 Brewers )
SR:Francisco Rodriguez (2011 Brewers)
SR:Jason Grilli (2012 Pirates)
MR:Max Lanier (1943 Cardinals)
MR:Yovani Gallardo (2011 Brewers)

AAA:
RF:Corey Hart (2011 Brewers)
1B:Ray Sanders (1943 Cardinals)
3B:Pedro Alvarez (2012 Pirates)
P:Harry Brecheen (1943 Cardinals)

Lineup:

With DH:

3B:Whitey Kurowski (1943 Cardinals)
RF:Stan Musial (1943 Cardinals)
LF:Ryan Braun (2011 Brewers)
1B:Prince Fielder (2011 Brewers )
DH:Gary Sheffield (1996 Marlins)
CF:Andrew McCutchen (2012 Pirates)
C:Walker Cooper (1943 Cardinals)
2B:Red Schoendienst (1949 Cardinals)
SS:Edgar Renteria (1996 Marlins)

without DH:
Just sit Sheffield and move everyone up a spot. SP 9th.


Let's make Lucroy Kevin Brown's personal catcher.

Strategy

Hit and Run:2
Sacrifice Bunt:-2
Squeeze Play:0
Trying for extra bases:2
Stealing Bases:1
Aggressively Tagging Up:2
Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases):0
Giving Intentional Walks:-1
Pitching Around Good Hitters:0
Bringing the Infield In:1
Guarding the Lines:1
Making Cutoff Throws:4
Bringing in Pinch Hitters:2
Bringing in Pinch Runners:-3
Bringing in Defensive Replacements:0
Starting Pitchers on Short Rest:-2
Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble:0
Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts:-1

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Hey let's give this a try.



bid #2 pick and '12 Neil Walker for a ** chance at '82 Yount.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

Smasher Dynamo posted:

oldskool
theacox
Armitage
blackmongoose

I demand more collateral from you.

Sounds like a good time to add Rickie Weeks.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

The Goog posted:

The Rated R Superstars bid their Super Draft picks to make a * challenge for 1985 Howard Johnson.

Does this also include horrifying experiences at Howard Johnson hotels???

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.



I won my first challenge! :toot: and then Kevin Brown got run over by a drunk Badger fan. :smith:


Because of those two things, week 2 will need wholesale changes. Here we go:

Insert 82 Robin Yount at starting SS. Renteria to the bench. Neil Walker to the minors.

*Reconfigured lineup will look like this:*

With DH:

3B:Whitey Kurowski (1943 Cardinals)
SS:Robin Yount (1982 Brewers)
RF:Stan Musial (1943 Cardinals)
LF:Ryan Braun (2011 Brewers)
1B:Prince Fielder (2011 Brewers)
DH:Gary Sheffield (1996 Marlins)
CF:Andrew McCutchen (2012 Pirates)
C:Walker Cooper (1943 Cardinals)
2B:Red Schoendienst (1949 Cardinals)


without DH:
Just sit Sheffield and move everyone up a spot. SP 9th.


Kevin Brown is injured. Move Gallardo to the rotation. :smithicide: Make him 4th. Also, make Clemens first and move Pollet to 2nd. Bring up Brecheen to replace Gallardo in the pen.

*New rotation and bullpen look like this:*

SP:Roger Clemens (1995 Red Sox)
SP:Howie Pollet (1943 Cardinals)
SP:Al Leiter (1996 Marlins)
SP:Yovani Gallardo (2011 Brewers)
SP:Bob Lemon (1946 Indians)

Bullpen:
CL:Rob Nenn (1996 Marlins)
SU:John Axford (2011 Brewers )
SR:Francisco Rodriguez (2011 Brewers)
SR:Jason Grilli (2012 Pirates)
MR:Max Lanier (1943 Cardinals)
MR:Harry Brecheen (1943 Cardinals)

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.


Good God the offense those first 2 weeks was terrible, but I'm not a knee-jerk kinda guy. That rotation still could use another arm, though.

Challenge time!

I'll put up my 2nd round pick, '96 Devon White, and '96 Edgar Renteria for a *-challenge try at '26 Urban Shocker. I can do that right? I'm just gonna tell myself I can do it.

He may or may not help, but I need to do something with the rotation. Also, having an 80 name tool on my team can't hurt.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.


Celebration time! 4 weeks, 4 wins baby!

Wh-

Wha-

What do you mean this isn't football? :smithicide:


Pretty sure I must be right up there with the worst start ever. Perhaps it's because the Mudholes have developed Bad Team Syndrome. In Madison, the cure for BTS is the same as for everything else that ails you. Just drink until your liver falls off and then you won't have anything to worry about.

Let's see. I could...hmmm. What if I...hmmm.


Well, when Kevin Brown is done being injured, let him replace the gently caress out of Howie Pollet. I'll leave Clemens in because there is no conceivable way his ERA stays north of 7 the rest of the way.

Wanna see something hilarious? Move Braun to 3B and bench Kurowski. Put Sheffield in LF and DH Corey Hart. gently caress it. Bat Hart leadoff and put McCutcheon at #9 when there is a DH.

Week 5's goal: 2 wins!!

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.


You know, this team is that bad. I might as well keep challenging.

Super Draft #1 pick and Corey Hart for *-challenge at '26 Urban Shocker.

If I lose, I'm hosed. But really, even if I win I'm hosed.


On hold.

theacox fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Oct 3, 2012

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

Do not do this. gently caress, let me sell you something instead. What do you want for that pick?

Bring me your SPs.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Cthulhu what year is your Pedro?

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Gents, I will sleep on this info and make my decision some time tomorrow.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.


Well if you say so Marauder.

theacox fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Oct 3, 2012

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

Cthulhu Dreams posted:



That offer is

Martinez or Carlton
Frank Smith (or another pitcher)
Jim Rice
Billy Williams (HOF, or Larry Walker or Kiki Cuyler)
Kim Byung Hung because I can.


I'm really thinking now that I should probably address 2B or 3B on the back end of any deal I make. Still should have 2 SPs though, as well.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Finger-Bangers:

'97 Alomar
'71 Sutton
'02 Zito


I like this, but it just seems like there is something missing. Perhaps a late pick or OF/RP body as a filler?


Cultists:

Ryne Sandberg -
Carlton or Martinez -
Larry Walker -
Frank Smith -
Kim Byung Hung -
Free Merc Services for any challenge except those I am planning to make myself.

Your inclusion of Sandberg is keeping you in this race. Carlton is acceptable and Larry Walker ups the ante. Not sure how much I have to have him right now though, considering my pitching and infield woes.

Frank Smith I see as a back-end starter/long reliever, which is ok. Kim is filler. The team challenge use is a real wildcard here.

Right now I am on the fence.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Cthulhu:

Add some years to your final offer and put it all in one post so I can make sure I take it all in.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

Can we work out some protection if your pick drops out of the top 3?

I'm pretty loving dense. Spell out what you are looking for.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
I like this:

Carlton, Steve 33 (1978 Philadelphia Phillies)
Smith, Frank (1911 Boston Red Sox)
Sandberg, Ryne "Ryno" 24 (1984 Chicago Cubs)
Walker, Larry 30 (1997 Colorado Rockies) - Left
Kim Byung Hung 2003 (Arizona Diamondbacks)
Gardner, Larry 1911 (1911 Boston Red Sox)
Merc Services

How about, if the pick ends up 5th or worse, I'll send back Larry Walker?

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
Marauder, let me know if you are still interested. I like the addition of Uehara. Let's get something done.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

The Merry Marauder posted:




Although the circumstances have certainly changed, I will accept your trade, theacox, if you don't object to sending me the underperforming Schoendienst as well as your pick. Just in case LaJoie explodes, I don't want to have to trot Omar Infante out there every day.


Trade offer accepted.


Finger-Bangers get:

Super Draft 1st round pick
'49 Schoendienst


Mudholes get:

'97 Alomar
'71 Sutton
'02 Zito
'11 Uehara

Please confirm I have this right just to make it all official-like.


edit:

"Smasher Dynamo" posted:


Braun at third base is...wait, you're a Brewers fan, aren't you? And you still put Braun at third? Terrible, just terrible.

I could really put on my Brewers hat and put Sheffield at 3B. That way we could watch him intentionally throw balls into the stands instead of anywhere near the first baseman. (Do not do this.)

Oh man. Now I'm reliving the 1990 season in my head. :smithicide:

theacox fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Oct 6, 2012

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.



Changes after the trade with the Finger-Bangers:

Schoendienst is gone. Replace with Alomar.
Gallardo and Lemon out of the rotation. Replaced by Sutton and Zito.
Gallardo to long relief, replacing Brecheen.
Uehara replaces Grilli in short relief.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
[quote="Smasher Dynamo" post="408350580"]


Ballot!


Dynamo League

Catcher
Pick One
[ ] Yogi Berra (Unspecifieds) (.301/.336/.476, 5 HRs 0.5 WAR)

First Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Mark McGwire (Bulldogs) (.231/.360/.435, 8 HRs 1.3 WAR)

Second Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Charlie Gehringer (Bulldogs) (.317/.365/.476, 3 HRs 1.1 WAR)

Third Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Darrell Evans (Unicorns) (.234/.333/.461, 9 HRs 1.1 WAR)

Shortstops
Pick One
[ ] Alan Trammell (Oranges) (.302/.372/.420, 3 HRs 0.2 WAR)

Left Fielders
Pick One
[ ] Barry Bonds (Generics) (.252/.345/.457, 4 HRs 0.4 WAR)

Center Fielders
Pick One
[ ] Earl Averill (Dervishes) (.283/.327/.513, 9 HRs 0.2 WAR)

Right Fielders
Pick One
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Designated Hitters
Pick One
[ ] Frank Howard (Bulldogs) (.292/.314/.469, 6 HRs 0.5 WAR)


Manager
Pick One
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Smasher League

Catchers
Pick One
[ ] Yogi Berra (Comancheros) (.276/.333/.503, 6 HRs 0.2 WAR)

First Basemen
Pick One
[ ] John Olerud (Eazy W's) (.325/.418/.562, 8 HRs 2.1 WAR)

Second Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Rogers Hornsby (Comancheros) (.360/.400/.556, 5 HRs 1.7 WAR)

Third Basemen
Pick One
[ ] Scott Rolen (Eazy W's) (.286/.367/.490, 7 HRs 1.4 WAR)

Shortstops
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Left Fielders
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Center Fielders
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Right Fielders
Pick One
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Designated Hitters
Pick One
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Manager
Pick One
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theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

Smasher Dynamo posted:


Madison Mudholes
Max Lanier (SP) (Mere Anarchy Loosed Upon the World) - 16 days


Replace him with Bob Lemon for the time being.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.



Andrew, Andrew, Andrew. You are but a man-child. Children's bones are made of rubber and should not break. That's OK, you were hitting for poo poo anyway.

Let's put Musial in CF and DH Hart.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.


When McCutchen gets done being injured... you know, this McCutchen is really pissing me off. Do not return McCutchen to the regular lineup when he is heeled. Keep using Corey Hart.

Also, Yount should hit 6th, moving everyone else down. Use Rodriguez as the setup man and put Axford as the 2nd option for short relief, behind Uehara.


That is all.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
I feel like any sort of triple unification belt should contain a Cerberus. This also scares me.:ohdear:

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
RYAN BRAUN WHY WON'T YOU HIT?!? :argh:

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

Smasher Dynamo posted:

Smasher League Week 19 Injury Report
The Super-League is now willing to accept ironic appreciation


Madison Mudholes
Gary Sheffield (RF) (Tried to win Mudholes' 'drink a 30-pack during a game and get the beer for free' challenge...didn't go well.) - 10 days


I'm pretty sure McCutcheon is still on the bench. DL Shef and replace with Cutch, but move him down to 7th in the batting order.

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.
After the first month, the Mudholes would have been happy to win 40 games all season. Now, we're approaching respectability. :psyduck:


It's like I went from having no idea what I was doing and being very unlucky to having no idea what I am doing and having normal luck! :science:

theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.




Smasher Dynamo posted:


Madison Mudholes
Don Sutton (SP) (Sandpaper Accident) - 10 days


Well let's DL Sutton and replace him with Bob Lemon. Replacing Lemon in the pen will be :stonk:Harry Brecheen:stonk:.

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theacox
Jun 8, 2010

You can't be serious.

Smasher Dynamo posted:

Super-Auction!

oooooohhhh. I like chaos.

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