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Azuth0667 posted:I refuse to read them as well is "Bombshell" worth buying the whole anthology to read it? I am unashamedly bias towards anything with Molly because i pretty much adore her entire story and growth so far as a character. So dont ask me, because my answer is skewed.  The rest of it has been hit and miss. Some of the stories are memorable (a strange sci-fi tale featuring body snatching for example) others have been... dark. Very, Dark. The current one about Basically American Hogwarts With American Wizards and Witches seems neat.
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MrGreenShirt posted:Since Ebenezer has all the journals of his mentor and his mentors mentor and his mentors mentors mentor and so on and so forth all the way back to the Original Merlin's diaries, my theory is that he and Harry are not only descended from the O.M. (magic being somewhat of a bloodline thing and all) but that the books we're reading are Harry's continuation of Ebenezer's journal collection. Well that and at least for the last 3 generations of that family they've all had parents/grandparents as teachers. That could lend some credence too.
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May 20, 2014 21:43
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Somewhat new to the Dresden fandom... what are the prevalent theories about the parasite infesting Harry? Is it related to Nemesis or are there any leading suspects of who put it in him?
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May 20, 2014 21:48
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bouncyman posted:Somewhat new to the Dresden fandom... what are the prevalent theories about the parasite infesting Harry? Is it related to Nemesis or are there any leading suspects of who put it in him? I think most people are assuming its Lash regrowing in his head due to wizard healing powers healing his brain damage.
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May 20, 2014 21:52
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Zore posted:I think most people are assuming its Lash regrowing in his head due to wizard healing powers healing his brain damage. That or it's mutant harry from the future who's come back in time to possess Mouse to prevent the bunny apocalypse.
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May 20, 2014 22:09
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Skippy McPants posted:So far there hasn't been an explicit exposition dump on what a Starborn is, how they come about, or what they can do. However there are bits and pieces of information scattered across all the books that amount to, I missed 2 but looks like that was Jim butcher saying to so touché. On 3, doesn't Harry talk about how he who walks behind was super badass and Harry couldn't have really actually beaten him so it must have been a setup? DJ_Ferret posted:Chapter 5 is up. AND IT IS TOO GODDAMN SHORT. Mouse is a good boy.
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May 20, 2014 23:18
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Khizan posted:Molly didn't really hold her own against Corpsetaker; she was out of her league from the start and the entire fight was one long delaying action. It wasn't even really a fight, it was a beating that Molly managed to survive. That's still impressive as hell, especially from a wizard that junior, but "not getting knocked out in the first round" doesn't mean she held her own. Wasn't the main reason she was "out of her league" as you put it due to her head being hosed up because of what happened with Harry? I can definitely see how her mental issues at the time could have royally hosed with her defences.
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May 20, 2014 23:26
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Zore posted:I think most people are assuming its Lash regrowing in his head due to wizard healing powers healing his brain damage. You know, now that I think about it (1 week from resolution) we all just kinda hopped on the "Lash!" idea and never considered anything else.
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May 21, 2014 00:02
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Fried Chicken posted:You know, now that I think about it (1 week from resolution) we all just kinda hopped on the "Lash!" idea and never considered anything else. Because Lash put up with Harry's poo poo and deserves a chance to athena off to be her own character.
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May 21, 2014 00:39
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But hadn't Harry/Lash established a pretty amicable relationship? Again, I've only ever done one read of the series but I thought Lash sacrificed herself to save Harry, why would her coming back be causing him so much pain and potentially killing him? Was there stuff I missed to support that it's probably Lash or is that just pure speculation?
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May 21, 2014 00:39
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bouncyman posted:But hadn't Harry/Lash established a pretty amicable relationship? Again, I've only ever done one read of the series but I thought Lash sacrificed herself to save Harry, why would her coming back be causing him so much pain and potentially killing him? Was there stuff I missed to support that it's probably Lash or is that just pure speculation? Until we read skin game and find out what the parasite is, it's all speculation. There is a lot of indirect hints that point to Lash/Lasciel, but nothing concrete.
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May 21, 2014 00:43
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Another thing I didn't quite get.. how come Mab wasn't able to help Maeve like she helped Lea?
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May 21, 2014 01:42
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bouncyman posted:Another thing I didn't quite get.. how come Mab wasn't able to help Maeve like she helped Lea? Maeve didn't want to be helped, Lea did.
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May 21, 2014 01:47
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AllTerrineVehicle posted:Maeve didn't want to be helped, Lea did. It all comes down to choice, and Lea is a good deal wiser than Mab. Probably knows quite a bit more about the Outsiders as well.
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May 21, 2014 02:07
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It's worth pointing out that Maeve had been avoiding her work for decades, long before she was ever infected by Nemesis. She was Bad At Her Job, and she got what was coming to her. 
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May 21, 2014 02:31
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Thyrork posted:The rest of it has been hit and miss. Some of the stories are memorable (a strange sci-fi tale featuring body snatching for example) others have been... dark. Very, Dark. The current one about Basically American Hogwarts With American Wizards and Witches seems neat.
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May 21, 2014 05:58
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Silento posted:It's worth pointing out that Maeve had been avoiding her work for decades, long before she was ever infected by Nemesis. She was Bad At Her Job, and she got what was coming to her. That's debatable considering we don't meet Maeve prior to her infection.
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May 21, 2014 06:08
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Xtanstic posted:That's debatable considering we don't meet Maeve prior to her infection. ^ When we first see her she's already infected, and I can't recall anyone ever commenting on what she was like before.
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May 21, 2014 09:45
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bouncyman posted:But hadn't Harry/Lash established a pretty amicable relationship? Again, I've only ever done one read of the series but I thought Lash sacrificed herself to save Harry, why would her coming back be causing him so much pain and potentially killing him? Was there stuff I missed to support that it's probably Lash or is that just pure speculation? Well I mean, being born from a head (assuming thats going to happen) is sorta a painful sounding proposition!
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bouncyman posted:But hadn't Harry/Lash established a pretty amicable relationship? Again, I've only ever done one read of the series but I thought Lash sacrificed herself to save Harry, why would her coming back be causing him so much pain and potentially killing him? Was there stuff I missed to support that it's probably Lash or is that just pure speculation? I'm pretty much onboard with the parasite being Lash, though yeah, it's all speculation (and pretty tenuous stuff at that, mostly because there aren't a lot of other obvious candidates. As for why her return might kill him when she has every reason to keep him alive and wish him well, (a) we don't know that either of those things are true (though they certainly seemed true when she 'died', and the parasite was instrumental in saving his life later on) and (b) we don't know that she has a choice in the matter. I think (b) is probably the more critical part of the whole equation. VanSandman posted:It all comes down to choice, and Lea is a good deal wiser than Mab. Probably knows quite a bit more about the Outsiders as well. I also got the impression, though I'm not sure it's ever stated overtly, that Lea's infection was purposely a lot more obvious to cause Mab to focus on curing her so that Nemesis-Maeve could work in secret. By the time Mab even discovered her infection, she'd been gone for years, and it could well have been too late to do anything about it.
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docbeard posted:I'm pretty much onboard with the parasite being Lash, though yeah, it's all speculation (and pretty tenuous stuff at that, mostly because there aren't a lot of other obvious candidates. As for why her return might kill him when she has every reason to keep him alive and wish him well, (a) we don't know that either of those things are true (though they certainly seemed true when she 'died', and the parasite was instrumental in saving his life later on) and (b) we don't know that she has a choice in the matter. I think (b) is probably the more critical part of the whole equation. I'm thinking that the bits of Lash being regenerated will be a bit bitter over how ungrateful Harry was about it whenever he spoke of her to other people later; hence the "gently caress this gay skull, I'm outta here" and "I'm going to destroy everything you hold dear after I kill you, Dresden" bits Mab tells Harry about.
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May 21, 2014 14:31
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Wade Wilson posted:I'm thinking that the bits of Lash being regenerated will be a bit bitter over how ungrateful Harry was about it whenever he spoke of her to other people later; hence the "gently caress this gay skull, I'm outta here" and "I'm going to destroy everything you hold dear after I kill you, Dresden" bits Mab tells Harry about. Actually, all Mab says is that something born of him can kill other things born of him. She didn't say it *would* necessarily. (Well she did, but only if Harry also died, which again isn't necessarily true)
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Was he that ungrateful? I can't remember him ever egregiously trash talking Lash, and with her being a master manipulator, I'd think she would understand that you can't just go around moping about how you lost your totally rad incarnation of evil and man she was just so great. Not when your friends are ex-cops and literal agents of God.
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Wittgen posted:Was he that ungrateful? I can't remember him ever egregiously trash talking Lash, and with her being a master manipulator, I'd think she would understand that you can't just go around moping about how you lost your totally rad incarnation of evil and man she was just so great. Not when your friends are ex-cops and literal agents of God. If lash turns into a real human being why wouldn't she just find the coin and make a deal?
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Took me a little bit of searching, but I found the thing about Maeve. It's in this interview: http://www.comicmix.com/columns/2013/09/10/emily-s-whitten-jim-butcher-dresden-files/quote:Yeah, we’ll get the Carpenters in it for some stage time there. But yeah, she’s been off doing Winter Lady stuff, and catching up on about 150 years of Maeve’s backlog; because not only was Maeve crazy, but she wasn’t doing the job; and that was really the problem as far as Mab was concerned. Crazy, psychotic, murdering people? Okay, that’s fine – but is she getting the work done? So Molly’s been doing that; and Molly’s the only one who can take care of the thing in Harry’s head – Demonreach told him that Molly could help (in Cold Days). Which is why Mab has made sure that Harry couldn’t communicate with Molly. So she’ll have to show up to help him with that.
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Silento posted:Took me a little bit of searching, but I found the thing about Maeve. It's in this interview: http://www.comicmix.com/columns/2013/09/10/emily-s-whitten-jim-butcher-dresden-files/ So wait, Schubert was Maeve's father, and he died in 1828 (and given he died at the age of 32 that won't be that far off from the birth year) that means Maeve only did her job before 10-20 years before abandoning it.
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May 21, 2014 16:08
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So what happens if (parasite speculation) Lash gets herself a human body... And takes up one of the Swords? We've got a new Knight showing up in this book after all.
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-Fish- posted:So what happens if (parasite speculation) Lash gets herself a human body... And takes up one of the Swords? We've got a new Knight showing up in this book after all. That's crazy enough that I want to see it happen.
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Wittgen posted:Was he that ungrateful? I can't remember him ever egregiously trash talking Lash, and with her being a master manipulator, I'd think she would understand that you can't just go around moping about how you lost your totally rad incarnation of evil and man she was just so great. Not when your friends are ex-cops and literal agents of God. Now that I'm thinking about it, Harry was wildly inconsistent with how he spoke about Lash after she was (as far as he knew) gone. I think with Murphy he had a discussion where she pointed out that he was basically grieving the loss of what amounted to a friend that died right inside his own skull; then with Micheal he was all "I feel kind of bad for the poor sap, dying with all that regret over what she was trying to do". And I expected a bit more reference to her in at least one of his conversations with Uriel, especially when griping about being given Soulfire once he lost access to Hellfire.
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apostateCourier posted:That's crazy enough that I want to see it happen. The thing is Lash's body belonged to the previous Knight, Murphy. She bit it when she got hit with a big mental whammy.
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-Fish- posted:The thing is Lash's body belonged to the previous Knight, Murphy. She bit it when she got hit with a big mental whammy. I don't understand what you wrote here. What?
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Ramadu posted:I don't understand what you wrote here. What? Murphy becomes Knight of the Cross, dies in Skin Game due to psychic trauma at some point. Lash pops out of Harry's head and needs a body. Murphy's body is conveniently nearby. She inhabitants the empty body and becomes a Knight of the Cross. Edit: Not a spoiler, just speculation that has potential spoilers to those not up to Cold Days yet. Posting from Awful App, accidentally chose Strikeout instead of Spoiler. -Fish- fucked around with this message at 21:34 on May 21, 2014 |
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Did you just spoil the book. Please tell me you did not just spoil the book, a book that DOES NOT COME OUT FOR A WEEK.
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Probably just a lovely fanfic idea, since everyone knows Mouse is the best living candidate. You've played Dark Souls, right?
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Okay, phew. I was worried there for a second.  You don't need to spoiler speculation! And no, I haven't played Dark Souls. It's too mainstream for me. 
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-Fish- posted:Murphy becomes Knight of the Cross, dies in Skin Game due to psychic trauma at some point. Lash pops out of Harry's head and needs a body. Murphy's body is conveniently nearby. She inhabitants the empty body and becomes a Knight of the Cross. No, no, somehow both of their minds have to survive together in one body in a perfect odd couple scenario.
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keiran_helcyan posted:No, no, somehow both of their minds have to survive together in one body in a perfect odd couple scenario. I like the way you think. That's way better than what I'd had in mind.
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-Fish- posted:had in mind. I see what you did there.
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Silento posted:Okay, phew. I was worried there for a second. I'm basically hoping for this.
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I have one problem with this theory. If Murphy gets a headmate, does that legitimatize tumblr? 
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