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magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I've been making motion graphics for the weather channel for the past 3 weeks, and my third video (launched yesterday) is the Video Of The Day today.

I built it using Photoshop and Manga Studio for the drawings, imported the 2D pngs into Blender3D. I tried using After Effects but holy poo poo it takes so long to get an idea of what I'm doing in there.

http://www.weather.com/video/sponsored-video/3-secrets-to-beat-mosquitoes-52077?collid=/news/video-of-the-day

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OtherCubed
Nov 12, 2008

:ese::saddowns:
Alrighty! With a little help from Travakian, I've created a script for the circles thing. And I've updated it loads, so there's a whole mess of options and parameters to play with.

Check it out at https://www.othercubed.com/store/circles , and again if you just want to see the new little promo video I've made it's here: https://vimeo.com/105895957

Just put it up last night and it's somehow gotten pretty popular on VK (which is apparently a russian social network), so it'd be cool to see it shared around a bit in a language I can understand!

OtherCubed fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Sep 12, 2014

raging bullwinkle
Jun 15, 2011

I'd share it but this link doesn't work. Please fix!

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER

raging bullwinkle posted:

I'd share it but this link doesn't work. Please fix!

I poked around and found it.
http://www.othercubed.com/store/circles

And HELL YES thanks for this. Can't wait to use it.

OtherCubed
Nov 12, 2008

:ese::saddowns:
Whoops, yeah thanks for fixing the link! I'll amend it.

If anyone makes anything cool with it I'd love to see, think it'd be cool to make a little trailer of other people's stuff.

It's getting a lot more downloads than I expected in the first 24 hours, if anyone knows any cool blogs or whatever that might be good to send it to let me know!

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
I just went through this thread out of curiousity and I'm blown away by the cleverness, skill, and creativity of this work. Definitely want to get into this sort of thing, although the closest I've come is Camtasia-based software demos and static infographics in Autocad/Illustrator. :negative:

Keep up the good work so I can bookmark this thread and see awesome things now and again.

Travakian
Oct 9, 2008

For anyone who likes shooting the poo poo during the days, saw on Twitter that there's an IRC channel on Freenode for motion chatting--

quote:

Want to hang w/cool mograph peeps all day? Join the #mochat IRC channel on http://chat.freenode.net - http://kiwiirc.com is a good option.

edit (dec 2015): This is defunct, nobody goes here anymore.

Travakian fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 10, 2015

Anony Mouse
Jan 30, 2005

A name means nothing on the battlefield. After a week, no one has a name.
Lipstick Apathy

OtherCubed posted:

Alrighty! With a little help from Travakian, I've created a script for the circles thing. And I've updated it loads, so there's a whole mess of options and parameters to play with.

Check it out at https://www.othercubed.com/store/circles , and again if you just want to see the new little promo video I've made it's here: https://vimeo.com/105895957

Just put it up last night and it's somehow gotten pretty popular on VK (which is apparently a russian social network), so it'd be cool to see it shared around a bit in a language I can understand!
This is pretty neat. You should see if you can get it on AE Scripts if you haven't already. http://aescripts.com

OtherCubed
Nov 12, 2008

:ese::saddowns:

Anony Mouse posted:

This is pretty neat. You should see if you can get it on AE Scripts if you haven't already. http://aescripts.com

I totally forgot to post the update to this! Currently working on an updated, expanded and (hopefully) way awesome-r version called Vigoro - http://www.othercubed.com/vigoro/ If anyone here's interested in it, I'm getting it in a fit state for a beta (form at the bottom of that page). Been in contact with aescripts a little, so Vigoro may be distributed on there once it's done!

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth

OtherCubed posted:

I totally forgot to post the update to this! Currently working on an updated, expanded and (hopefully) way awesome-r version called Vigoro - http://www.othercubed.com/vigoro/ If anyone here's interested in it, I'm getting it in a fit state for a beta (form at the bottom of that page). Been in contact with aescripts a little, so Vigoro may be distributed on there once it's done!

Looks really good, looking forward to this!

Travakian
Oct 9, 2008

Two questions!

a) Anyone going to f5 fest in NYC this April?
b) What scripts do you guys generally use day-to-day? Was checking out CreativeDojo's post on different setups/layouts/approaches-- http://creativedojo.net/after-effects-workspaces/

raging bullwinkle
Jun 15, 2011
I feel like I'm doing it wrong because I use one of the default layouts and don't really use any plugins apart from duik/particular. I'm only on motion graphics work like once every few months though so I've never felt a huge need to optimise my workflow. Can you give me some examples of absolutely essential plugins I should be using as a motion graphics professional?

Also I tend to shy away from things like ease and whizz because I inherited someone else's file once where all easing was controlled by expressions and it was a nightmare to work with.

Duik btw, for anyone who hasn't heard of it, is a plugin made for rigging 2D characters in AE, but I use it mainly for parenting puppet pins to null objects. That way you can parent them to other things and link them to expressions and stuff. It's very handy.

the_lion
Jun 8, 2010

On the hunt for prey... :D

raging bullwinkle posted:

I feel like I'm doing it wrong because I use one of the default layouts and don't really use any plugins apart from duik/particular. I'm only on motion graphics work like once every few months though so I've never felt a huge need to optimise my workflow. Can you give me some examples of absolutely essential plugins I should be using as a motion graphics professional?

Also I tend to shy away from things like ease and whizz because I inherited someone else's file once where all easing was controlled by expressions and it was a nightmare to work with.

Duik btw, for anyone who hasn't heard of it, is a plugin made for rigging 2D characters in AE, but I use it mainly for parenting puppet pins to null objects. That way you can parent them to other things and link them to expressions and stuff. It's very handy.

Yeah, other people's files are always a landmine. The things i've seen...

Plugins:

Particular is probably the most handy. It's not for just particles, you can use it to populate scenes and do other stuff like make fake crowds. It's quite worth it, most companies I've been at have it.

Denoising stuff like neatvideo or Red Giant's one are good if you use a lot of Dslr footage or shoot in low light.

FilmConvert has sweet film grain. Not essential but it's way faster than AE's grain. Used at one or two companies.

Element v2 from videocopilot looks very interesting -nothing you couldn't do with c4d lite or even normal c4d.

Colour vibrance from Videocopilot is kind of handy when compositing stuff on black and for VFX. Free.

Scripts:

Ouroboros is really handy for motiongraphics. Sure, you could do it yourself but I feel like the script really speeds up this kind of stuff and leaves it editable. Great for multicolour lines and that sort of thing that i'd previously do with set matte or shape layers. Link here:"
http://www.sandervandijk.tv/blog/ouroboros

BGrender from AEscripts is one I like. I've never liked that you can't render without using the whole CPU which slows you down. Sometimes, you just want to render something using 30% of the RAM and CPU in the background while you keep working. Only bad thing: if you have a big project file, it needs to save it first. I've used it before Media Encoder was around and it's still my preferred way. Media encoder is good, but more for spitting out the final renders and files for the web. BGrender opens a terminal window and you can even close AE if you wanted. Media encoder is better if you have a huge list of comps to render out fast.

Reposition Anchor point from AEscripts is one of many reposition scripts.

True Comp Duplicator duplicates the comp exactly and any elements in it. Handy if you need a depth map.(AEscripts)

3D layer distributor quickly moves layers in depth and opacity etc. Free I think (AEscripts).

PT_multiplane is good (I got it when it was free) as it allows you to move elements in 3d space without making them bigger or smaller. Saves you a lot of time if you do a lot of this sort of thing. Particularly good for photo/real elements. Check the demo vid on AEscripts for a better explanation.

Motionboutique just put up 3 scripts on aescripts that I use very occasionally for free. They released them a while back. One makes layers fold quickly. I forget the name.

For those not in the know, there's a lot of "name your price" scripts on AEscripts - probably worth having a dig and seeing if there's some that work for the sort of work you do. You can write whatever number you want. Some scripts I've come back and bought because of how good they were. Most of the scripts also have a trial period too.

the_lion fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jan 25, 2015

OtherCubed
Nov 12, 2008

:ese::saddowns:
So, a long time later, Vigoro has been released! If anyone still looks in here, it got its start as Circles (which is still available for free on my site!) right here on this very thread!

It's a tool for creating offset animations in AE. I'm pretty proud of it, check it out! - https://www.othercubed.com/vigoro

If you don't care, you can also just watch the release trailer here: https://vimeo.com/118480617

And there's also a shorter teaser! : https://vimeo.com/115976803

the_lion
Jun 8, 2010

On the hunt for prey... :D

OtherCubed posted:

So, a long time later, Vigoro has been released! If anyone still looks in here, it got its start as Circles (which is still available for free on my site!) right here on this very thread!

It's a tool for creating offset animations in AE. I'm pretty proud of it, check it out! - https://www.othercubed.com/vigoro

If you don't care, you can also just watch the release trailer here: https://vimeo.com/118480617

And there's also a shorter teaser! : https://vimeo.com/115976803

Thanks for posting this, it looks awesome!

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

OtherCubed posted:

So, a long time later, Vigoro has been released! If anyone still looks in here, it got its start as Circles (which is still available for free on my site!) right here on this very thread!

It's a tool for creating offset animations in AE. I'm pretty proud of it, check it out! - https://www.othercubed.com/vigoro

If you don't care, you can also just watch the release trailer here: https://vimeo.com/118480617

And there's also a shorter teaser! : https://vimeo.com/115976803

Bought this yesterday. Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but we got a big client project coming up we're going to try it on. Excited!

OtherCubed
Nov 12, 2008

:ese::saddowns:
Awesome! Be sure to share it, I love seeing what people are coming up with!

raging bullwinkle
Jun 15, 2011

the_lion posted:

3D layer distributor quickly moves layers in depth and opacity etc. Free I think (AEscripts).
This one sounds really handy. I always end up manually moving poo poo in z-space and then scaling it to fit. It's pretty hit and miss.

OtherCubed posted:

So, a long time later, Vigoro has been released!
That's really cool, man. I actually made a script for myself that offsets animations but it only links to position and scale etc. I never quite got to the ui stage :( Still does the job, though.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Yo, OtherCubed! I don't think you set up the 1.03 upgrade properly on AEScripts. Doesn't show up in the version history of my downloads and since it's not a name your price script, I can't upgrade for "free."

OtherCubed
Nov 12, 2008

:ese::saddowns:

BonoMan posted:

Yo, OtherCubed! I don't think you set up the 1.03 upgrade properly on AEScripts. Doesn't show up in the version history of my downloads and since it's not a name your price script, I can't upgrade for "free."

Sorry, should be up now! Let me know if you can't see it still.


raging bullwinkle posted:

That's really cool, man. I actually made a script for myself that offsets animations but it only links to position and scale etc. I never quite got to the ui stage :( Still does the job, though.



That looks awesome!

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

OtherCubed posted:

Sorry, should be up now! Let me know if you can't see it still.



Works thanks!

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
This year, I've started working full time doing motion graphics/animation, explainer videos, and stuff. It's not the greatest art, but I'm getting there.

My first stab at some opening credits kind of a thing. Tell me how I could improve on this, please.
https://vimeo.com/122807962

I wanted to make something abstract that could loop, maybe use it on my own website.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhbFlsAhiig

This is a portion of a thing - it's in 3D but I tried to get it to look like vector lines instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BBiUChuRMs

TheLastManStanding
Jan 14, 2008
Mash Buttons!

magnificent7 posted:

My first stab at some opening credits kind of a thing. Tell me how I could improve on this, please.
https://vimeo.com/122807962
I feel like that pan is way too fast; there is just way too much motion for a static subject. I like the idea of the words popping in from behind objects, but I feel like if that's to happen then should have a similar movement or something; by fixing them to the screen they seem removed and their interaction is awkward. Jennifer Hill flies under the radar by both being too low and coming in while someone elses name is still around. Her name is inconsistent as it's dark while the others are light. They also last way too long; the producers name sits there for 15 seconds, people only need ~2-3 seconds to read a name. I'm not sure what you were going for with that last scene. Replace the last scene, shorten the second, rework the timing in the first, and then you'll have something that's pretty good.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
great feedback, thanks.

Travakian
Oct 9, 2008

Anyone doing NAB or F5? Conference goonmeet should happen.

jaik3n
Sep 18, 2009
I'm *Considering* doing F5

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
quick AE question, and it's a principle-of-the-thing kind of question, so I don't know where else to research it.

WHY does AE not have an option to put layers into a folder? Like Flash, for instance. I've got a pretty long clip, and I'm making pre-comps as much as possible, but I'm still getting deep into layers. Is there a logical reason to this that I'm missing? Like - is it a way to keep users from making too many layers or something?

mareep
Dec 26, 2009

Nope – there are plug-ins for this now, as a matter of fact. I don't have first-hand experience with them, personally, but they sound pretty handy if your layers/precomps are getting out of hand!

https://vimeo.com/121569449

I'm 99% sure there's another one floating around somewhere but can't remember the name.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
holy poo poo the insanity.

raging bullwinkle
Jun 15, 2011

magnificent7 posted:

WHY does AE not have an option to put layers into a folder?
I ask this same question, out loud, in the office, to no one in particular, on an almost daily basis.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

raging bullwinkle posted:

I ask this same question, out loud, in the office, to no one in particular, on an almost daily basis.

"JESUS loving CHRIST gently caress YOU AFTER EFFECTS YOU loving PIECE OF poo poo" - a lot of people in my office on a daily basis.

Travakian
Oct 9, 2008

raging bullwinkle posted:

I ask this same question, out loud, in the office, to no one in particular, on an almost daily basis.

Because this fucks with, at the least: render order, 3d layer render order, blending modes, collapsed precomps...

raging bullwinkle
Jun 15, 2011

Travakian posted:

Because this fucks with, at the least: render order, 3d layer render order, blending modes, collapsed precomps...

I think they could exist as a purely cosmetic thing. Just have the computer ignore folders completely. Render like they don't exist. Why wouldn't that work?

Travakian
Oct 9, 2008

raging bullwinkle posted:

I think they could exist as a purely cosmetic thing. Just have the computer ignore folders completely. Render like they don't exist. Why wouldn't that work?

Because that's only half a solution; they've said multiple times that it's a big feature request, and if they're going to do it they'll do it properly. Focus has been on the architecture rewrite though, and that's Big News.

raging bullwinkle
Jun 15, 2011

Travakian posted:

Because that's only half a solution; they've said multiple times that it's a big feature request, and if they're going to do it they'll do it properly. Focus has been on the architecture rewrite though, and that's Big News.
Yeah, you're right. I guess I need to start reading Adobe's blog.

Is there a resource you could point me to that would help with timeline organization? I feel like my projects always reach a critical mass of shape layers and null objects and I lose all comprehension of what I'm looking at.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
I'm finally getting the hang of this whole easing animating thing in After Effects.


But, seriously, how is this different from animating in Flash? (question for people who've done a lot in both programs. I did flash for over a decade before I got over to AE.)

I love the results, but when I step back and look at it, it reminds me of stuff I did five years ago.

I'm curious why there's such a resurgence in this kind of stuff?

magnificent7 fucked around with this message at 02:32 on May 2, 2015

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


I think AE is just a lot more versatile. You can animate in it and also do compositing and color correction. Flash is more limited.

Though if you're wondering why this kind of animation is back in fashion... I guess cause it looks good but isn't too expensive or super difficult? Did it ever go out of fashion or did the preferred program just change?

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Ccs posted:

I think AE is just a lot more versatile. You can animate in it and also do compositing and color correction. Flash is more limited.

Though if you're wondering why this kind of animation is back in fashion... I guess cause it looks good but isn't too expensive or super difficult? Did it ever go out of fashion or did the preferred program just change?
Maybe yeah - the tool changed, not the style.

Gunjin
Apr 27, 2004

Om nom nom
Anyone know a decent way to do light trails in After Effects? I typically do editing and color, and only touch AE to make lower thirds, but I've been voluntold that I need to learn how to use it. Which is fine, I've been meaning to learn more about it, I can get work to pay for some online courses and books, but I've also been handed a project that needs to be done now. It's mostly fairly simple, some vector graphics flying around in 3D space fading into a new logo. That part's easy, I've already animated all the objects, but they want them to have glowy trails follow them around that fade out. I've found a few tutorials, but they all use Trapcode Particular, which I don't have available (I will be requesting it, but finance moves slowly, I'll be lucky to have it in 6 weeks). If it can't be done, so be it, they know they waited too long and gave me this too late, but if it can be done I'd like to do it.

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the_lion
Jun 8, 2010

On the hunt for prey... :D

Gunjin posted:

Anyone know a decent way to do light trails in After Effects? I typically do editing and color, and only touch AE to make lower thirds, but I've been voluntold that I need to learn how to use it. Which is fine, I've been meaning to learn more about it, I can get work to pay for some online courses and books, but I've also been handed a project that needs to be done now. It's mostly fairly simple, some vector graphics flying around in 3D space fading into a new logo. That part's easy, I've already animated all the objects, but they want them to have glowy trails follow them around that fade out. I've found a few tutorials, but they all use Trapcode Particular, which I don't have available (I will be requesting it, but finance moves slowly, I'll be lucky to have it in 6 weeks). If it can't be done, so be it, they know they waited too long and gave me this too late, but if it can be done I'd like to do it.

Video copilot from memory had a non plugin light streak tutorial that is very old.

You can also use the echo effect but expect huge render times the nicer you make it look. Just make a shape, move it and add the echo. It's not the greatest by any means but it is easy to set up.

I swear creative cow had a thing a long time ago using the Vegas effect too-before particular came out.

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