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Nothing's really changed since Harrington/TOP or since Super\System for that matter. Reread those if you need a brushup on the fundamentals, then you get better by playing and going back over your own hand histories regularly.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Nothing's really changed since Harrington/TOP or since Super\System for that matter. Reread those if you need a brushup on the fundamentals, then you get better by playing and going back over your own hand histories regularly. ehhhh..... I mean once you get to a certain point, its a lot more optimization / game theory now. But I'm sure you can still get through like live midstakes with that.
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Baddog posted:ehhhh..... I mean once you get to a certain point, its a lot more optimization / game theory now. But I'm sure you can still get through like live midstakes with that. Online low stakes you can run profitably using Harrington et al.
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Yeah sorry I should have been more specific, none of the literature was ever any good for surviving at high stakes. It's just the fundamentals.
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Glad to know the books are still relevant. I'm looking to actually spend as much time studying my hands after sessions as I do playing so I suck less. I never spent the time I should have back in the day. Is PokerTracker still good for this? I'd also love to know what is good software for plugging in tournament data to analyze my play with ICM. (I have no idea how to ask this question and be grammatically correct)
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Sataere posted:Glad to know the books are still relevant. I'm looking to actually spend as much time studying my hands after sessions as I do playing so I suck less. I never spent the time I should have back in the day. Is PokerTracker still good for this? For tournaments you should check out this https://www.holdemresources.net/
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I liked this book as a good refresher for the low-stakes strategy https://www.amazon.com/Course-Serious-Strategy-Smart-Players/dp/1511768320
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PIZZA.BAT posted:Yeah I'm assuming everyone in this forum has seen this Jon Bois episode of 'Pretty Good' but if anyone hasn't he dedicates and entire chapter just to Helmuth Lmao I hadn't, thank you
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I have a dumb idiot poker tracker 4 question. My popup isnt working. I built a custom one around 3bet pots and now i cant get it to pop up. I can see the hud, but nothing else. Im brand new to using this so ive probably missed something, but all i can find are tutorials on how to build the popups and not how to make them work Edit: i figured it out. Its really stressful trying to play and troubleshooting the hud at the same time! sephiRoth IRA fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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Okay, I'm getting into an argument with a friend of mine and I'm curious if I'm a big dummy here. $120 live deepstack tournament. I'm in the SB with a 55k stack. Blonds are 800/1600/1600 bb ante.(Starting stack is 40k) UTG is playing way too many hands and has about 20k in chips. 3rd position has been consistently 3 betting into UTG and getting him to fold. UTG makes it 4k, 3rd position makes it 15k. I have 10s in the small blind. I'm pretty confident I'm ahead of 3rd position who has me covered, but I'm 50/50 on UTG. Is this a bad place to just shove and squeeze? I'm not really hoping for a call because best I can get is a coin flip, but I feel like both these guys are folding a lot of the time. And if I'm a big dummy, tell me why.
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Sataere posted:Okay, I'm getting into an argument with a friend of mine and I'm curious if I'm a big dummy here. $120 live deepstack tournament. I'm in the SB with a 55k stack. Blonds are 800/1600/1600 bb ante.(Starting stack is 40k) UTG is playing way too many hands and has about 20k in chips. 3rd position has been consistently 3 betting into UTG and getting him to fold. UTG makes it 4k, 3rd position makes it 15k. I have 10s in the small blind. I'm pretty confident I'm ahead of 3rd position who has me covered, but I'm 50/50 on UTG. Is this a bad place to just shove and squeeze? I'm not really hoping for a call because best I can get is a coin flip, but I feel like both these guys are folding a lot of the time. And if I'm a big dummy, tell me why. This is a perfect spot to 4bet jam IMO and I’m never doing anything differently given your description of the villains. You probably don’t want a snap-call but if UTG is opening a ton of hands and if 3rd position is 3-betting into UTG a lot, then TT is going to be a pretty decent favorite over both of their ranges. Getting them to fold here is an excellent result and probably happens with a high frequency given their tendencies. And even when called (especially by 3rd position) you’re not going to be in bad shape all of the time.
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Mind_Taker posted:This is a perfect spot to 4bet jam IMO and I’m never doing anything differently given your description of the villains. Pretty sure as described this is +ev with almost atc. I'd have to dig out my old sngwiz license to check, but maybe someone else can run it (sngwiz is on version 3 now??)
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Thank you for the confirmation. Turned out UTG had JJ and the three bettor had AKo. I felt like my reads were good, but worried maybe I was missing something. I had played with these guys for about 2.5 hours and just felt like sometimes people wake up with hands.
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Do you all have any resources for managing fear / working on the mind side of the game for when you're moving up in stakes? I've built my bankroll up enough that I can move up, but I'm finding that I'm overfolding on high variance plays. It's something that came up last night where I knew the right move was to put more chips in the pot, but folded instead. Afterward I realized that this wasn't just an issue with choosing a more conservative playstyle, but rather I was scared to lose some of the profit I had earned during the session. So, yeah, some sort of YouTube reprogramming or book that helps me explore past childhood traumas and achieve a higher state of being or something?
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There's a book from I think the 00s by a therapist called the psychology of poker that was pretty good, by Alan Schoonmaker Also Elements of Poker by Tommy Angelo is really good but it's more about tilt but I still think it's worth reading
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Stefan Prodan posted:There's a book from I think the 00s by a therapist called the psychology of poker that was pretty good, by Alan Schoonmaker Great thank you, I'll check them out
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sephiRoth IRA posted:Do you all have any resources for managing fear / working on the mind side of the game for when you're moving up in stakes? I've built my bankroll up enough that I can move up, but I'm finding that I'm overfolding on high variance plays. It's something that came up last night where I knew the right move was to put more chips in the pot, but folded instead. Mental Game of Poker still holds up very well
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play in tournaments where the money is fake
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Nybble posted:play tournaments where the money is fake At some point they will combine player pools in the shithole us states and I can finally play some 8 game low stakes tournaments to get my degen out
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This channel is so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNOX7LH9T6A
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sephiRoth IRA posted:Great thank you, I'll check them out The Elements of Poker is a good read. You might want to brush up on Bill Fillmaff’s Secret System. http://www.billfillmaff.com/
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iHaveNoImagination posted:The Elements of Poker is a good read. KJo is the best hand in poker.
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Are there any good practical free training resources online preferably web based anymore? There used to be a site called poker fighter but I don’t think it’s available anymore. Something that simulates situations and gives you instant feedback on if you took the correct course. I know I should probably be looking to analyse my actual hands but a bit overwhelmed with all the software and something like the above would be useful and I think I’d be more likely to keep it up more consistently. E: pokertrainer.se looks like it could be alright and what I’m looking for?
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gtowizard isnt free but the base level is only $40 a month and u should definitely consider it if u can e: well that's a very mid redtext ive been given for some reason MY INEVITABLE DEBT fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Oct 8, 2023 |
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MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:gtowizard isnt free but the base level is only $40 a month and u should definitely consider it if u can gtowiz related to sngwiz at all? congrats on the mildly racist redtext, heh. someone projecting?
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Yeah GTOWizard is probably what you're after but as mentioned it costs. If you want a free option, Equilab is there but does a lot less of the work for you.
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Baddog posted:gtowiz related to sngwiz at all? not that im aware of. and ya very strange red text. i dont even have any posting enemies. i aint even been mean to anyone. perplexing.
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Perfect Ill check out gto, it seems to have some form of free version at least too.
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Gtowiz is the nuts and the best UI, however range trainer pro does have free pre flop https://rangetrainer.app/
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Can someone help explain to me how to use the solvers? So in the screenshot below, I'm attempting as an example to see, if the BTN raises 2.3, and the BB goes all in, what hands the BTN should call the all in with. As soon as I click the BB all-in, it gives an error saying "this post-flop spot is not solved yet." Am I doing something wrong? E: https://imgur.com/FtGMvdN Annabel Pee fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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I would just like to thank Doug Ford for geofencing Ontario online poker cause lmao its the softest games I've played in a decade.
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playing 8 handed, I’m in the cutoff. I get 23c and decide to call the BB with 3 callers to my right.BB has double everyone’s stack, everyone else has 250 or so bbs. BB checks. Flop comes 4d 6c 5c. Checks around to me and I decide to shove. I’m worried about any better flush or straight draw hitting what they need. Is this a bad play? I lose to any other club hand if another club shows up. I’m thinking if I value bet I don’t really get called by much except maybe A7 and worse and allow draws to stay in the hand. Everyone does end up folding around to me but I can’t help but think I left some value on the table. Was I too scared of getting outdrawn? If someone had bet to me I would have maybe just raised instead of shoving but I didn’t want another card to hit the table. I’m fully prepared for the answer to be “just don’t play 23s from the cutoff.” Ghislaine of YOSPOS fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Nov 25, 2023 |
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It’s been a long time since I played serious poker but I think the general rule of thumb was don’t make bets where you only get folds by worse hands and only calls by better hands. If everyone who has a pair or draw or whatever folds to a push, and only the higher straight calls, then why push?
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:playing 8 handed, I’m in the cutoff. I get 23c and decide to call the BB with 3 callers to my right.BB has double everyone’s stack, everyone else has 250 or so bbs. BB checks. Flop comes 4d 6c 5c. Checks around to me and I decide to shove. I’m worried about any better flush or straight draw hitting what they need. Is this a bad play? I lose to any other club hand if another club shows up. I’m thinking if I value bet I don’t really get called by much except maybe A7 and worse and allow draws to stay in the hand. Everyone does end up folding around to me but I can’t help but think I left some value on the table. Was I too scared of getting outdrawn? If someone had bet to me I would have maybe just raised instead of shoving but I didn’t want another card to hit the table. Make it big enough that the draws are making a mistake by calling. But yah, jamming 250 bbs just ensures that no one makes any mistakes. I think it's marginally ok to play that hand there, but not if you play like that when you do get the nuts...
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Baddog posted:Make it big enough that the draws are making a mistake by calling. But yah, jamming 250 bbs just ensures that no one makes any mistakes. just want to point out that this isn't the nuts which makes this especially egregious since when you're jamming like whatever this is, 25x pot, you're probably only getting called by the actual nuts of 87 along with maybe occasionally gigantic equity draws like A7cc or something and I mean it seems totally reasonable that a bunch of limpers might have the offsuit combos of 87 also
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Stefan Prodan posted:just want to point out that this isn't the nuts which makes this especially egregious since when you're jamming like whatever this is, 25x pot, you're probably only getting called by the actual nuts of 87 along with maybe occasionally gigantic equity draws like A7cc or something doh lol, need more coffee. Somehow when I was typing up the reply I misremembered "hit it loving hard" to "the nuts", god. Thanks for the correction.
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You definitely want to make a strong value bet there, but shoving 250bb is only ever valuetowning yourself. A hand that beats you = all the money goes in no matter what you do. A hand that doesn't beat you = may call or raise a PSB, but will never call a shove, except maybe sets that have redraws. But definitely play 23s from the cutoff when you're 250bb deep. 23s/34s are great hands for winning gigantic pots. You just can't let yourself get in trouble when you flop anything short of a straight.
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the unspoken rule of poker is that you always want to see more cards when you have four cards to a straight flush draw, because you won't get many straight flushes in your entire life of playing poker and if you do make one you want to get to crush someone with it at showdown this may not be a +EV rule, but it's just how it is, you cant risk not getting to put a straight flush face up on the table
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Leperflesh posted:the unspoken rule of poker is that you always want to see more cards when you have four cards to a straight flush draw, because you won't get many straight flushes in your entire life of playing poker and if you do make one you want to get to crush someone with it at showdown could be +EV if they have a high hand jackpot!
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:playing 8 handed, I’m in the cutoff. I get 23c and decide to call the BB with 3 callers to my right.BB has double everyone’s stack, everyone else has 250 or so bbs. BB checks. Flop comes 4d 6c 5c. Checks around to me and I decide to shove. I’m worried about any better flush or straight draw hitting what they need. Is this a bad play? I lose to any other club hand if another club shows up. I’m thinking if I value bet I don’t really get called by much except maybe A7 and worse and allow draws to stay in the hand. Everyone does end up folding around to me but I can’t help but think I left some value on the table. Was I too scared of getting outdrawn? If someone had bet to me I would have maybe just raised instead of shoving but I didn’t want another card to hit the table. Don't play 23s from anywhere except raising the button or small blind if your opponents fold too much, or calling a minraise from BB. Flop is absurd. You bet 250bbs into 8bb and are asking if this was correct?
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