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My main problem with a move to Trad Games is that I'll get caught up with the paper crack that is MTG. Should probably also avoid spending all my work time playing Mafia again  RIP PITR. Here's hoping regulation dropping will make you rise from your grave.
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TheAbortionator posted:I didn't because I was a retard and put 20 dollars on the site without signing up for rakeback way way way back in the day (a mistake I no longer regret for obvious reasons). For what it's worth they were pretty bad about enforcing the "no multiple accounts" rule.
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d3c0y2 posted:I'm a little confused to how you guys all ended up here. I've never played Poker or gone into the poker forum, so I may be getting this arse over head but from what I gather online poker was banned in America, so the forum was closed? The forum traffic was pretty small; there were between 0-4 viewers most of the time and less than one page of active threads. When things are getting archived off the first page that is about as light as it gets. Once it was decided to mothball it for the present the issue came up of where the threads would go. SAS and GBS and TG were all mentioned, but there appeared to be concerns that they would get heckled so since that is reasonably familiar territory for TG and poker is, no matter what else it is, a card game they can have a home away from home here. There is already some crossover with the MTG players that I know of, and besides TG is full of people who like to play games and shoot the poo poo about game theory and throw good money after bad, so it is a good fit in a lot of ways. Lote posted:Also, there's the implication that all poker in the US is online, which completely ignores the WSOP and Circuit, WPT, HPT, Deepstacks, etc. plus all international tournaments. I assume that discussion of all online or live poker will go in this thread. Your post ignores my chief experience of poker as well, which is around a kitchen table. Ho ho ho. I figure the threads will sort themselves out eventually based on the remaining traffic and whatever new blood comes on in. I would love a TGcentric new players/instructional thread since the old one is pretty PITR specific and requires archives to really use, but I am not demanding one be made or anything. Lote posted:And Unamuno and JCarver got to be on a few ESPN feature tables. And two more goons made final tables in WSOP events. That is actually pretty great, who made the finals? I have a friend who works as a dealer for WSOP stuff, which is my only real connection to any of this beyond the aforementioned kitchen table games.
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mfcrocker posted:My main problem with a move to Trad Games is that I'll get caught up with the paper crack that is MTG. Should probably also avoid spending all my work time playing Mafia again Do you play on Epic Mafia?
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Oh man can long time Traditional Games posters welcome OUR NEW NEIGHBORS? Do I bake a casserole I don't know the protocol here anymore, change confuses and upsets me. So yeah, I played online poker for about one month before everything went Wrong, just enough time to get me thoroughly interested (happily, I was a starving college student, and so literally could not lose much money). After it got banned I have been playing in person games off and on, nothing for serious money, just enough to keep me in rough practice while I absorb poker strategy by osmosis. Looking so, so very forward to online poker re-legalizing since I have "a job" and "disposable income" now so I can actually get lots of meaningful hands in and get practiced like I wanted to years ago!
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Gadamer posted:For what it's worth they were pretty bad about enforcing the "no multiple accounts" rule. They didn't really care if you made another account with rakeback as long as you weren't actively playing on both accounts or had two rakeback accounts if I remember right.
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I'm just offended you didn't put the best game in the world, Razz, in the OP. God I miss my many hours of HU Razz tournaments, why did you have to leave FTP? Why?
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Scratch one more forum off the list (still never posting in TCC or the anime one)Anubis posted:I'm just offended you didn't put the best game in the world, Razz, in the OP. God I miss my many hours of HU Razz tournaments, why did you have to leave FTP? Why? The worst and pretty much only bad part about working at Stars is I'm locked out of 99.999% of razz action worldwide 
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Adar posted:Scratch one more forum off the list (still never posting in TCC or the anime one) The Razz tables tend to be myself, a few Russians, a few people from China, and one guy from Peru who is there every single day. You're not missing out on much, especially as compared to the old FTP Razz days the games are a lot less active and its more a grind to find the guy who thought he sat at a Stud table. gently caress I miss FTP Razz rake.
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Winson_Paine posted:
EC10 got 4th in Event 17: 10k pot limit hold em and some lurker me  got 5th in Event 23: 3k 6 max holdem. Unamuno and JCarver are going to get most of the attention though, as they're gonna be playin poker on the Tee Vee.
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TheAbortionator posted:Do you play on Epic Mafia? Na, I played in PBP about 18 months ago under my previous screenname (bigfatspacko_uk)
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Suggestions for what could/should be added to OP please!
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Suggestions for what could/should be added to OP please! 
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Lote posted:EC10 got 4th in Event 17: 10k pot limit hold em and some lurker me You can't forget Psyduck on the featured table last week either.
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mfcrocker posted:Na, I played in PBP about 18 months ago under my previous screenname (bigfatspacko_uk) come back to us spacko 
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Aredna posted:You can't forget Psyduck on the featured table last week either. Just watched it last night and was laughing pretty hard when he bitched at Johnny Chan for Hollywooding.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Suggestions for what could/should be added to OP please! Links to the archives, links to the other new threads, possibly a note about how cool I am.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Suggestions for what could/should be added to OP please! Maybe some kind of intro to the subject or primer, or a link to such. There are probably people in here with a casual interest in poker (like me) and disposable income to throw at it but lack even half a clue where to get started or what places are good to go to. So if a young TGer gets into it he or she will not send a grand to https://www.totallynotascam.net and then wonder what is going on. Maybe repost some of the archived stuff for folks without? I dunno, I am historically terrible at OPs. Maybe a glossary? I dunno, there was confusion over cake and I don't know what rakeback is and the exchange between Jamoool and Moose was baffling to me so maybe a breakdown of how online poker works in terms of how it pays out and what the rules are and so on? Winson_Paine fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Aug 31, 2012 |
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Aug 31, 2012 19:23
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You guys should post in grognards.txt. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there with terrible opinions and big mouths who play poker. We're all one big family now! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4uTEEOJlM
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I didn't see it anywhere on here, but the Pokerstars android app isn't region restricted anymore. For awhile it was only usable in a few places. Now I can play from Canada. Excited to try it out when I'm not at work.
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odiv posted:I didn't see it anywhere on here, but the Pokerstars android app isn't region restricted anymore. For awhile it was only usable in a few places. Now I can play from Canada. Excited to try it out when I'm not at work. 
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It's no FTP Rush Poker app I need to get back into it once/if we get our money back from FTP. I was up to NL10 when FTP shut down and the government ate my 500 bucks. Still have all my books and Holdem Manager and everything.
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's no FTP Rush Poker app Can't you play Zoom on the mobile app?
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Winson_Paine posted:Maybe some kind of intro to the subject or primer, or a link to such. There are probably people in here with a casual interest in poker (like me) and disposable income to throw at it but lack even half a clue where to get started or what places are good to go to. So if a young TGer gets into it he or she will not send a grand to https://www.totallynotascam.net and then wonder what is going on. Maybe repost some of the archived stuff for folks without? I dunno, I am historically terrible at OPs. Maybe a glossary? I dunno, there was confusion over cake and I don't know what rakeback is and the exchange between Jamoool and Moose was baffling to me so maybe a breakdown of how online poker works in terms of how it pays out and what the rules are and so on? I'd be happy to put in a bit of time to create a thread to help beginners understand the rules and strategy behind the most popular poker variant, Texas Hold'em. Compared to most PITR folks I'm relatively new to poker and have only played socially and at online microstakes, but that (plus a bunch of not-poker teaching experience) probably puts me in a good position to explain stuff simply and not overwhelm the audience with high-level strategy and jargon off the bat. Those who can't do, teach, and all that. If there was enough interest from non-US players it could even be worth creating a "home games" club on Pokerstars for beginners to splash around in a goon-friendly environment and discuss strategy along the way. Unfortunately US goons are SOL in this respect because the only online poker sites they can play on are ones that people elsewhere in the world wouldn't touch with a barge pole (i.e. not Pokerstars.) Incidentally one of the sites US players can use (with some difficulty because most banks won't process the payments) is Cake Poker, which is why you see the word cake thrown around a lot. [Edit: also to give myself a bit of credence I should probably spend some of my microstakes winnings on an avatar]
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Well, I suppose it's better than nothing. Chiming in on support for Winson_Paine treating us well and trying to smooth the transition. I guess I'll be popping into #poker a lot more. Considering how our play base has dwindled, the fact that a lot of our discussion actually takes place in IRC may have bitten us in the rear end. If we had known we needed x-amount of posts to keep the forum active enough to survive, we could have just brought more of the IRC discussion to the boards. Oh well. Here's hoping licensing and regulation in the US goes through and PITR rises against amidst a new poker boom.
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AmnesiaLab posted:If we had known we needed x-amount of posts to keep the forum active enough to survive, we could have just brought more of the IRC discussion to the boards. Oh well. :EDIT: ....just to add that Winson_Paine seems really cool and welcoming.
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I like the internet and I like poker. I also like internet poker even if Uncle Sam doesn't like when I play it. Remember when PartyPoker was still open to U.S. players? The 7 card stud games were so soft... ah, memories.
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Oh yeah... much of my initial bankroll came from 7CS/8 and NLHE on Party. All the games were soft back then. Playing such ridiculously soft games live all the time has to be bad for my game, but it's good for my bottom line. It's probably good practice for when legalization and regulation go through and the fish flood back online, though. I'm lucky to have such a fishfarm so close to my house.
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PITR 2012 Year in Review: January: - We might get our money back but probably not. February-June: - July: - We might get some of our money back probably or maybe just our deposits - Goons fail us and don't make WSOP final table - Someone who's apparently a goon makes WSOP final table September: - Closed
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i hate this game
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As far as US facing online sites, some clarification. Carbon is a skin on the merge network. Merge network recently got partially gutted when Lock poker (a skin on merge) left and purchased the cake network, rebranding it to Revolution. Lock poker became a skin on their Revolution network. Cake poker remained a skin on revolution network independent from Lock. They are the two largest US facing networks, I believe. You can still get money onto and off of the sites, but it sometimes takes quite a bit of time (up to 3 months for a check from cake for example) and some jumping through hoops, but I haven't heard of very many people not being able to cash out or having checks bounce. Scotsman later informed us he had blackballed lock poker for shady affiliate/player handling and practices. I believe he still works with other skins on Revolution, including Cake, and most or all of merge network. I think the standard right now for rakeback is around 35% for many sites. The smaller sites are possibly higher. The games have gotten harder only because the pool has thinned out to the people who realllly want to play, as well as poker and game theory advancing quite a bit over the last several years (and I truly believe some of that was because of the absolute loving beasts we had come out of the PITR community and hit the poker stage). The difficulty of moving money on and off of sites restricts the number of casual players, which helps keep the games from becoming as soft as they otherwise would be. If/when online poker moves back out of the grey area in the US, the games will become exponentially softer for quite a long time. Many people will play because they saw the pros on ESPN and think "I can do that!". Call it the Moneymaker phenomena, part 2. Either way, as Moose said, people are still exploitable because while the current player base may know more overall, and play a more 'standard' style, most people who play poker have difficulty adapting to changes in an opponents game play. At least at the micro/small stakes limits. Once you get in to midstakes and higher they are slightly different animals. And JC, not that I am even remotely in practice, but I did top 8 a bunch of limited PTQs back in the day, and went to a single solitary limited pro tour (in 1998, yes I'm ancient). My skills are > 10 years out of date though. I'm old school enough to have had a complete set of jewelry that never saw the inside of a card sleeve and went to the Ice Age pre-release in Toronto. MtG eventually led me in to poker from various friends who played both. Poker has more upside. I miss PITR dearly already, and I really wish that instead of just 'boom, goodbye PITR', an admin had come to us and let us know we might get chopped and give us a chance to either do something about it, or a way to negotiate some time to see what happens given the recent developments with Pokerstars/FTP and the DoJ. Not too mention that there would probably be more than one poker player (myself included), who would be willing to chip in  or more to potentially save the forum. Once I found PITR, I've barely gone anywhere else on SA. Signal to noise ratio was obscenely high compared to most other forums, both on and off SA.
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well pitr is gone now. thanks for this graph of all the hands on my desktop pitr, i couldnt have done it without you (the blue line is the important one)
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What was the forum ID of PITR again?
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Hanstion posted:What was the forum ID of PITR again? 139, never forget Now something awful will be able to move forward into a new dawn without being dragged down by the massive overhead of PITR. That forums overview was just way too cluttered, looks much better now.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Suggestions for what could/should be added to OP please! I am kind of disappointed that the thread is limited to "Online Poker." As someone who is fed up with cash out and deposit waits, I have given up on online poker until it is regulated within the United States. Why not make it a Poker Megathread with a sections dedicated to B&M and Online? I would still like to pipe in the poker discussion occasionally .
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We don't deserve more then one topic. Just post anything poker related in here. I can't wait until the lottery starts a poker site so I can take prescription money away from old women and use it to invest in funeral homes.
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I am not saying there should be two separate megathreads. I think it would be nice if the title of the thread was just "Poker Megathread" and the OP had separate sections for online and live. Makes it a bit less misleading and maybe would generate more traffic.
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RIP pitr. I love you all.
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An OP with some general information would be really helpful guys. I'm sure a lot of new people like me are reading the thread and have loads of questions. For example, is it possible to be a semi-competitive player? I play a lot of competitive magic and the cost is relatively minimal. Is that a thing in poker? Can you go and play seriously without spending absurd amounts of money?
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