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Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Well it probably does take the Hulk (in a non-life threatening situation) a good 15-20 seconds to completely transform, so considering he had amnesia and if Castle ran REALLY FAST...

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Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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ImpAtom posted:

BatB ran for 3 seasons and only got cancelled when they wanted to make a new series (which got cancelled way way faster.) It was pretty successful by kids show standards.

Beware The Batman hasn't been cancelled...officially yet anyway. The Network doublespeak claims it'll be back in January.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Say Nothing posted:

Sabertooth is alive again? He was beheaded by a magic sword, sent to hell and beheaded again in hell by another magic sword.
What was the excuse for his resurrection this time?

Cloning, apparently. What really makes this jarring is that said second magic sword was supposedly to destroy souls, so Victor Creed should Clearly Most Sincerely Dead. I guess if you clone someone, you not only create a new soul, but keep all the clonee's memories? Comic books! If you're a main nemesis, it doesn't matter how hard one set of writers try to get rid of you, the next person who wants to use you will bring you back, by hook or by crook.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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VanSandman posted:

Kevin Smith made Batman piss himself. Never forget, never forgive.

I thought it made him lose control of his bowels?

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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ImpAtom posted:

This may be the least subtle supervillain plan of all time.

70 years later, Mark Miller would recycle this idea without a hint of irony.

Well, if he hasn't yet, I wouldn't be surprised if he did.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Really, this sums up Max Landis pretty much perfectly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RWMc-EdDRY

Hell, this video slash idea is a distillation of everything hardcore fans get wrong about comics. Excessive, out of control violence and gore (because it's MATURE!), the obsessive need to work in old ideas at the downside of a proper story (the big reveal at the end only has punch if you're familiar with the source material: a big reveal should work no matter WHO is absorbing the story. And it arguably doesn't have punch anyway because it's being worked in more to happen than as an organic end to the story), ridiculous cynicism and an inability to just let stories be happy and silly instead of grim and terrible and REALISTIC, because drat it, comic books aren't for kids, I'm a grown up, stop making fun of me! True, there's a few good ideas buried in there (the Lois stuff and the Superman/Batman stuff), but it's just caught up in so much self-absorbed morass that it just makes the overall idea look worse in general. It's the kind of thing where a proper editor would go "Okay, not a bad first draft, but still needs a LOT of work", except as the comments show, it's being eaten up by the same clueless hardcores and the same clueless hardcores are running the whole drat comic business.

Le sigh.

Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Feb 4, 2014

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Gygaxian posted:

Honestly, I like the idea of put-down-upon Shocker becoming a hero and I have a soft spot for Shocker: Legit but yeah, it's pretty terrible after a re-read or so.

In more than a few ways, TS:L works pretty well, and if you trimmed a few things like Shockerdad being Behind Everything and toned down the head-and-balls exploding goreporn, it would actually make a pretty good standalone miniseries. You can work with grimness and grit easier when you're dealing with lesser supervillains who are more 'in touch' with 'traditional crime' (ie, virtually all criminals being low-thinking, easily prone to violence and sadism thugs), unlike the Dooms and Luthors whose work goes purely into the fantastic like moon lasers or turning sodas into superpower dispensers. So you could still have your violent, vicious fights, a man struggling against his weaknesses and trying to use what gifts he has, his struggles made harder by the fact that his existing deeds have already heavily defined how the world will see him. Heck, you could even potentially keep the Black Cat angle, because there are stories where the most unusual people can click.

The problem is, Max Landis tries to apply the same kind of thinking to the more mythic and fantastic A-List DC superheroes, where it just doesn't WORK. Now, I'm not saying you can't have a grim, gritty Superman story, but it's forcing an oval peg into a round hole: it doesn't fit well and never will. It's not who Superman is, and it's not what his archtype is. Superman put into the worst kind of situations and overcoming them is stories like where he fought that eviler 5th dimensional imp, Vyndydiv or something, and he beat it by overwhelming its innate strange nature by having the world say their names backwards. Its not in Doomsday making his bones stick out of his arms and coughing out his lungs.

We should move this derail to another thread if want to keep discussing it. In actual funny panels (in a WTF are you serious) way, it turns out they gave a comic book to Billy Ray Cyrus. Yes, he of the Miley dad and Achey Breaky Heart song. Now, plenty of real life celebrities have gotten comics and some have been pretty ridiculous, like Eminem teaming up with Punisher and the Backstreet Boys having superpowers. So what does this comic do with Cyrus?



Why, send him back to medieval times of course! Makes perfect sense to me.

(Billy Ray Cyrus #1, obviously).

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Waterhaul posted:

And now you know where BSS got its name.

Was it definitely this? I've also heard it was from some bizarre DC/Harvey Comics crossover where Batman killed Casper*, but then again I have never seen any proof that this comic actually exists.

*There was supposedly a crossover between Batman and Casper and at some point I think the Spectre showed up and claimed that the people of the Harvey Comics universe were made up of everyone that Batman had ever failed to save or something, and hence by that logic Batman killed Casper, and hence that was his shameful secret.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Solaris Knight posted:

It's so weird that one of the first major villains the X-Men had wasn't Sabretooth, Mystique, or the Sentinels, but the Blob of all people.

For a team whose power set in the early days consisted of 'guy who flies/guy who jumps on you with big feet/girl who picks up small objects with her brain/guy who throws ice/guy who shoots punches from his eyes', someone who is immensely strong, more or less invincible, and incapable of being moved if he doesn't want to be WOULD be a major threat, not counting the Professor X telepathy I win button.

Really, back in those days, superhero writers just gave people powers, they didn't sit down and THINK about what those powers could do. They just went 'He can make and throw ice at people', not 'If he can freeze ice out of thin air he could freeze the liquids in a body' or 'If he can extract heat to make ice, then he should be able to reverse it and add heat to things too and hence he has fire powers too'. By pure scientific logic, Magneto should be able to kill 99 percent of the threats he faces with a gesture (he controls electromagnetism, brains and robots run on electrical signals, turn off the signals and enemy falls over dead), hell, Captain Marvel/Photon/Spectrum/Monica Rambeau was recently able to kill a weakened physical avatar of Shuma-Gorath by tapping into its brainwave electrical activity and overloading it.

Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Mar 30, 2014

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Majuju posted:

Seriously that set of panels is :smith: as gently caress.

I can't help but picture late 80's Marvel and Jo Duffy just getting SO SICK of some co-worker who won't stop talking about how superior his Japanese "man-gas" and "annie-may" is to Western entertainment...

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Gaz-L posted:

She has the proportionate strength, speed and agility of a squirrel. Also she can talk to them, and has a big-rear end tail. (Pun only sorta intended)

Also, she can defeat anyone, as long as it happens offscreen.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Unlucky7 posted:

It was even dumber than that. There was a writeup in the bad runs thread. I will see if I can dig it up...

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3562522&pagenumber=26&perpage=40#post425884055

Here we go. The last couple images of this post.

The worst part is that whole thing was done so horrendously that when Ian Flynn took over even HE felt the need to address in his first year of 'clean up every goddamn plot thread mess Panders left' and used it as a minor plot point in his second arc; the villain plugged Tails into a machine and used him to draw all the Chaos Emeralds in existence to him, where they were all fused into one set of seven.


Outside of 'wacky humor', to this day I have no idea what the Celestial is saying. 'You are total poo poo'? That's...just not a well constructed sentence.

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Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


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Irish Joe posted:

What the gently caress

....how is this comical in any way?

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