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Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Everyone should watch this E:60 piece on Ben Petrick.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8421632

# ¿ Sep 28, 2012 07:05

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 20:50

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

davecrazy posted:

They should of rebranded it something else. 30 for 30 only makes sense in the context of 30 films for 30 years of being on the air.

Keep the same musical themes from the promos and visual style and narration (what if I told you...?) and call it ESPN Docs or something.

They did that and the ratings weren't as strong so they went back to 30 for 30.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2012 05:54

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

my god this E:60 piece on the runner is the saddest thing ever.

# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 00:47

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Andre Rison looks like Shaggy

# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 01:23

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

someone on twitter posted:

"See, it's a Jump to Conclusions mat, Rocket." - me bilking Raghib Ismail of his signing bonus #broke

# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 01:38

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

BallerAlert is a real thing

way to go America

# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 01:53

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Professor Funk posted:

Why isn't Mark Brunell in this movie

hey man What-A-Burger's gonna turn it around

# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 02:15

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

CBJSprague24 posted:

Good 30 For 30. There was a good point brought up about why universities don't give the athletes they make millions off of a basic financial education. At the same time, you sort of have to roll your eyes at the arrogant ones that were among those that dozed off during the information sessions the NBA/NFL hold to attempt to tell them to be smart with the money.

Herm Edwards owns, especially after the "One jewelry. Don't be going after the Mr. T Starter Set" line.

And maybe it's because everyone in this state is so over him that makes it somewhat surprising, but how the hell did Archie Griffin go bankrupt?

He opened a chain of sneaker stores with his brother that failed massively.

I'm pretty sure he was still playing when he filed.

# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 04:46

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

FlamingLiberal posted:

I was surprised that during the segment about kids/women they managed to avoid any mention of Shawn Kemp and however many kids he has now.

IIRC, he owns a really popular cafe or something in Seattle and does fairly well for himself given what you'd expect.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2012 06:28

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

I'm so glad they used the Break It Up video

# ¿ Oct 10, 2012 01:16

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

That was really good IMO. Really expanded on something I knew about, but wasn't that familiar with.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2012 02:31

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Niwrad posted:

Is there a list of future ones? I know Benji is coming up which sounds great. Saw some rumors about one being made about Maurice Clarrett which I think would be interesting too.

The next two are Benji and Ole Miss integration, then a Bo Jackson one the night of the Heisman presentation.

The rest aren't scheduled yet but the extended preview showed Hagler-Hearns, Kerrigan-Harding, Clarett and Valvano's title team

# ¿ Oct 16, 2012 18:54

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Benji was in the Tribeca Film Festival, IIRC, and Tribeca has deals with certain cable providers to show entries on demand.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2012 03:19

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

This Benji doc is awesome so far but I can't get past how much one of his teammates looks like Beetlejuice from Howard Stern

# ¿ Oct 24, 2012 01:36

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

David Aames posted:

is that it for 30 for 30 films for this season?

My guess is there probably won't be any new ones until college basketball is over.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2012 13:46

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

AfterFather posted:

I just finished watching the Bo Jackson 30 for 30 and I also watched the Barry Sanders documentary as well and I have to ask, how many generational Running Backs came into the NFL from that decade alone? Off the top of my head I can think of Eric Dickerson, Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, Barry Sanders, Marcus Allen, Barry Sanders, and Emmitt Smith. I wish I was able to watch these guys play in their prime. I was only able to watch the last two years of Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith in his twilight years.

On that note, check out the Barry Sanders and Marcus Allen episodes of A Football Life. Hell, check out any episode of A Football Life.

It's such a terrific show.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2012 14:59

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Danica! posted:

The Pat Summit doc has a chance to be loving amazing.

I assume most have an idea of her story, but if you don't, she is a cross between Bob Knight and Clint Eastwood.

But they missed the boat by not doing something on Shirley Muldowney/Janet Guthrie/Lyn St James, given ESPN's hard on for Danica Patrick.

Danica is exactly why they aren't doing a doc like that. They enjoy pretending there weren't others before her, especially when several of those others were considerably better drivers.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2013 15:15

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

New 30 for 30 "From Elway to Marino" is on ESPN right now.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2013 01:23

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

The Spirits doc will own because Marvin Barnes owns

# ¿ Jul 25, 2013 06:25

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

For those who missed the Nine for IX stuff:

Drop Everything
No Limits - seriously, loving watch this. Buy it on iTunes if you have to.

A Must
The '99ers

Worth A Watch
Pat XO
Runner
Venus Vs.
The Diplomat

Decent Timewaster
Swoopes
Let Them Wear Towels

Meh
Branded

# ¿ Oct 2, 2013 03:40

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

yea it started as Gibney filming his comeback and then obviously things changed. The trailer looked great. Hopefully ESPN nabs it and airs it.

e: Also, everyone watch League of Denial http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/league-of-denial/

as well as the Arturo Gatti-Micky Ward doc on HBO airing Oct. 19. I haven't seen it but I've seen all three fights multiple times and there's no way this isn't gonna be good.

Truther Vandross fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Oct 9, 2013

# ¿ Oct 9, 2013 16:22

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

CBJSprague24 posted:

Forgot to address this last night, but I could've gone my entire life without picturing what came next after John Spano told Mike Milbury "The girls are on their way. They're going to do each other, and then they'll do us."

I bet Milbury had her tie him up and hit him with shoes

# ¿ Oct 29, 2013 20:25

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

I would watch 30 for 30's on the 1972 gold medal basketball game and Roy Jones Jr getting jobbed hard

# ¿ Oct 30, 2013 13:23

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Spacebump posted:

You should find a way to watch :03 from Gold. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0326717/

thanks for the heads up. I'll keep on the lookout on NBAtv or something.

# ¿ Oct 30, 2013 19:43

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Predecessors sucking worse doesn't mean Bettman still doesn't suck hard.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2013 14:01

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

ThinkTank posted:

From an optics perspective sure, but financially he made more money through Versus/NBC than ESPN ever have or ever will offer. Again, he is not there to appease the fans, he reports to NHL owners.

Anyways, hockey on ESPN in the past didn't exactly skyrocket the sport to world wide attention, why would you believe that sticking with the same network (that treated hockey as very much a 2nd tier sport) would suddenly improve things? Short term there was no benefit financially, long term the prospects of future revenue were very questionable. It was probably an easier decision for the league than you'd think.

All of this is right in a sense, but it all just assumes Bettman's not at least partially responsible for driving the league into such a hole in the first place. In a vacuum, less money to get ESPN exposure is going to be far more beneficial, but dumb expansion decisions led to them needing the guaranteed Versus/NBC cash over something that would probably more efficiently grow the product following that disaster year, but not provide you with the guaranteed stability necessary to keep afloat a bunch of teams that shouldn't loving exist in the first place.

You're absolutely right that it was an easier decision for the league than most thought, but only because terrible mismanagement from the top down left them so desperate they had no other recourse.

Doing a relatively decent job of fixing a gently caress up doesn't mean you didn't gently caress up.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2013 19:30

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

The Maurice Clarett-Jim Tressel one debuts right after the Heisman ceremony and it's done by the Zimbalist Brothers, who made The Two Escobars.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2013 12:52

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

and if any of you care, the first volume of 30 for 30 Season II is being released on DVD on Nov. 26 and includes:

- Broke
- 9.79*
- There's No Place Like Home
- Benji
- Ghosts of Ole Miss
- You Don't Know Bo
- Survive and Advance
- Elway to Marino
- Hawaiian: The Legend of Eddie Aikau
- Free Spirits
- No Mas
- Big Shot
- This is What They Want
- Bernie & Ernie
- The Book of Manning
- A Bonus Disc with 8 30 for 30 Shorts (at least on Amazon. Not sure if this is included everywhere)

There's also a set with all of the Nine for IX's that is available already.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2013 15:32

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

C. Everett Koop posted:

I thought the Manning one was an SEC deal, since they've been cranking out their own docs.

Technically it was an SEC Storied doc but it was popular and it's the only one of those that didn't premiere on ESPNU so I'm guessing they're being liberal with the designation to help sell that DVD set.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2013 19:57

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Benne posted:

It's not 30 for 30 but I think NFL Network has done a great job with its "A Football Life" series so far.

This week they're doing Steve Gleason, on Tuesday at 9 p.m. ET. Get your Kleenex ready.

Yea these have all been pretty solid this season. The Pat Summerall one was really good and the Matt Millen one actually made me respect him.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2013 14:12

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

ESPN just announced some 30-for-30 World Cup tie-ins. We're getting two full-length 30-for-30's, six half-hour 30-for-30: Soccer Stories specials and a ten-part series of shorts that will air throughout the World Cup coverage.

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ESPN Films, creators of the critically-acclaimed 30 for 30 film series, will premiere a new series in April surrounding the 2014 FIFA World Cup on ESPN. 30 for 30: Soccer Stories will include a mix of standalone feature-length and 30-minute-long documentary films from an award winning group of filmmakers telling compelling narratives from around the international soccer landscape. In addition, a collection of 10 vignettes about Brazil�s rich culture will be featured throughout ESPN�s FIFA World Cup programming.

�With ESPN being the home of the 2014 FIFA World Cup, we know that sports fans will be looking forward to high quality content focused on what is perhaps the world�s most revered sport,� said Connor Schell, VP of ESPN Films and Original Content. �We feel this is the perfect time to expand upon the success of our 30 for 30 series by focusing this collection on some of the incredible stories of soccer�s legendary past.�

Two feature-length films:

Hillsborough, Directed by Daniel Gordon
25 years ago, on April 15, 1989, the worst disaster in British football history occurred in an overcrowded stadium in Sheffield, England, 150 miles north of London. 3,000 fans flocked through the turnstiles to head to the area reserved for standing, despite a capacity of less than half of that. The result was a �human crush� that killed 96 people and injured 766. Initially the police blamed fans for the disaster, but a long investigation revealed that was not the truth. Prior to the disaster at Hillsborough, British football was known for the grime of its stadiums, hooligan fans and inadequate facilities, but great change came after the Hillsborough disaster. What emerged is now known as the most rich and powerful soccer league in the world, the English Premier League.

White, Blue and White, Directed by Camilo Antolini; Produced by Juan Jos� Campanella
Although a large number of Argentinian players have found football success around the world, few have made a name for themselves in England�s top league. One notable exception is Ossie Ardiles. Fresh off Argentina�s victory in the 1978 World Cup, Ardiles and his compatriot, Ricky Villa, joined Tottenham Hotspur later that year, when the notion of overseas players was still new to the English league. Helping lead Spurs to victory in the 1981 FA Cup, the Argentinian stars became cult heroes in England. But on April 2, 1982, everything radically changed as Argentinian troops descended on the British-ruled Falkland Islands, asserting rightful sovereignty. A conflicted Ardiles returned to Buenos Aires two days later, his bright future with Spurs suddenly in question.

Six 30-minute films:

Garrincha: Crippled Angel, Directed by Marcos Horacio Azevedo
In Brazil, Pel� is �The King.� But his teammate, Man� Garrincha, is also remembered as the one of the best soccer players of all time. In a country where the sport grants its protagonists such royal deference, Garrincha is the jester� an entertainer who amused crowds and turned soccer into an irresistible spectacle, all while helping Brazil capture two World Cups. This, despite his legs being so bent that early in his career doctors deemed him unfit to play professionally. Match after match, he proved them wrong. But his unpredictable moves were of little assistance after his playing career came to an end. Abandoned by the soccer establishment, Garrincha died a victim of alcoholism in 1983. But his fans did not forget him. His body was brought to a cemetery, in the outskirts of Rio de Janeiro. Garrincha�s relatives had to borrow a grave, which turned out to be too small for his coffin. Thousands of people flooded the tiny burial ground, much more than the place could accommodate. After 49 years of a brilliant career and tumultuous life, the man who turned soccer into a �Beautiful Game� was memorably laid to rest. His legend lives on.

Barbosa � The Man Who Made All of Brazil Cry, Directed by Loch Phillipps; Executive Producers: Jonathan Hock & Roger Bennett
In 1949, Goalkeeper Moacir Barbosa and his Brazilian national team are on top of the world, having just won the South American championship by a score of 7-0. Barbosa is one of the heroes, widely considered one of the world�s best goalkeepers. But everything changed during the 1950 World Cup, played for the first time in Brazil. Before the final game against neighbor and rival Uruguay, the Brazilian Football Confederation was so confident of victory it had made 22 gold medals with the names of their players imprinted on them. With 11 minutes left, Uruguay shocked the estimated crowd of 200,000 at Marcana and scored the winning goal � a goal that is still considered to be the greatest sporting tragedy to befall Brazil. The blame was mostly pinned on Barbosa for being out of position on his goal line, tantamount to Bill Buckner letting a baseball roll between his legs. The country went into a deep mourning, fans committed suicide, and Barbosa was nationally blacklisted. Barbosa was considered cursed and he never played in another World Cup. He rotted away, practically penniless and alone. On July 13th, the 2014 World Cup Final will again take place at the Maracana, giving the Brazilian team the chance to write a new ending into Brazilian folklore.

Ceasefire Massacre, Directed by Alex Gibney and Trevor Birney
New Jersey, June 18, 1994. Giants Stadium is awash with green as Irish soccer fans arrive to watch Ireland�s opening World Cup match against the mighty Italy. The sense of optimism is infectious. The Celtic Tiger is in its infancy, Bill Clinton�s decision to grant a visa to Irish Republican leader Gerry Adams has propelled the peace process forward and Jack Charlton�s team are walking onto the pitch before 75,000 fervent spectators made up of Irish, Italians and Americans of Irish and Italian decent. Amongst the fans is Irish Prime Minister Albert Reynolds who is sitting with members of an American group who�ve been working behind-the-scenes to end the conflict in Northern Ireland. The electrifying mood is shared by the supporters watching the match in the Heights Bar, a tiny pub in the Northern Irish village of Loughin Island, 24 miles south of Belfast. At the half, the Irish are remarkably ahead 1-0. Shortly after the second half begins, two masked gunmen belonging to a Protestant terror group burst into the Heights Bar. Thirty rounds are fired and six innocent men watching a soccer match were killed. Ceasefire Massacre will reveal how the juxtaposition of the jubilation felt inside Giants Stadium against the horrors of what happened in the Heights Bar, encapsulated the mood of the time. After 25-years of conflict, Ireland and her people longed for peace and prosperity but the brutalities of the violence in the North were never far from the surface. The gunning down of innocent men as they watched a soccer match marked both a low-point and a turning-point in the Northern Ireland conflict; one that would ultimately contribute to the paramilitaries on both sides calling ceasefires just weeks later.

The Opposition, Directed by Ezra Edelman; C0-directed by Jeffrey Plunkett
In the wake of the 1973 military coup in Chile, American-backed dictator Augusto Pinochet transformed Santiago�s National Stadium into a concentration camp where political opponents were tortured and assassinated. Only months later, that same stadium was scheduled to host a decisive World Cup qualifier between Chile and the Soviet Union. Despite protests, FIFA�s own investigation, and the Soviet�s eventual boycott, the Chilean team still played the game as planned, qualifying for the 1974 World Cup on a goal scored against no one.

Mysteries of The Jules Rimet Trophy, Directed by Brett Ratner
Inspired by Nike, the Greek goddess of victory, the Jules Rimet Trophy was awarded to the nation that won FIFA�s World Cup and was among the most coveted prizes in all of sports. It is also the sports prize shrouded in the most intrigue � with the whereabouts of the original trophy unknown to this day. This film focuses on the great prize�s first brush with crime � a Nazi plan to steal the Rimet Trophy from Italy during World War II. The story unfolds like a great caper film, where our hero, Ottorino Barassi, a mild-mannered Italian soccer official, attempts to protect a valued treasure.

Maradona �86, Directed by Sam Blair; Executive Produced by John Battsek
In the 1986 World Cup, Maradona redefined what is possible for one man to accomplish on the soccer field. Already a figure of notoriety, but with one failed World Cup behind him, Maradona took possession of the international stage in Mexico, the spotlight rarely drifting from him as he wrote an indelible history with his feet and, of course, with a hand from God. Delivered with passion and intelligence, Maradona �86 is a fascinating, evocative and operatic portrait of Maradona, revealing his inner complexity and contradictions while basking in the joy and passion of his performance on the pitch as he wrote his name on soccer history forever.

10 Vignettes:

Cora�ao, Directed by Jonathan Hock; Executive Produced by Roger Bennett
Brazil�s soccer tradition does not compete with other countries� teams: it exists on a different level. But aside from soccer success, and despite Brazil�s recent economic boom, most Americans know little about the country, its geographical richness, gripping culture, and complex recent history in which the nation has transformed from a military dictatorship to a thriving, if young, republic. This short vignette series will travel from the beaches and favelas of Rio, to Salvador � the former hub of the slave trade � on a journey of music, dance, and history, to discover the stories that lie behind Brazil�s legend and explore how Brazilian soccer is truly the expression of the soul of its people.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2014 15:56

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

screenwritersblues posted:

The Price of Gold (formally know as Tonya and Nancy) airs tomorrow night at 9:00. It's an hour later than the normal 30 for 30s, which usually starts at 8:00. I guess that because of the subject matter, it's going to start later.

As far as I know, the subject matter is irrelevant to this. Generally they don't do first-run 30-for-30's between the Heisman ceremony and the Final Four because the majority of nights are occupied with either college or pro basketball. An exception was made for this because of the obvious Winter Olympics tie-in and I guess this was deemed the best available period to debut it.

# ¿ Jan 15, 2014 20:24

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

screenwritersblues posted:

Anyone know when the next group is being announced or is expected to be announced? I know that the soccer ones are coming up in a few months, but is there anything else on the table?

Usually by now they've announced a basketball doc for the post-Selection Sunday show slot but I guess they're not doing that this year, or they're advertising it rather late. I haven't heard of anything in the pipeline between now and the World Cup ones, but I'd be shocked if they didn't have a spring run. I guess we'll see.

# ¿ Feb 17, 2014 17:56

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Dantu posted:

Just watched Catching Hell. I enjoyed it, but wasn't blow away by it. I'd put it in the same tier as Broke, worth watching but not amazing. Growing up in the 80s/90s, You Don't Know Bo has probably been my favorite so far. Survive and Advance was beautifully done and probably the most emotional one I've seen so far. I remember being totally drawn into the Iverson one after stumbling onto it while channel surfing, which says a lot about the film because it wasn't a topic I had any interest in.

Have you seen Two Escobars? If not, go do that immediately.

e: I wish they'd put the Nine for IX episodes up there because so many people missed No Limits and it's loving incredible.

e2: Here it is on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db4azFDbNSk

Truther Vandross fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Feb 17, 2014

# ¿ Feb 17, 2014 21:31

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

CBJSprague24 posted:

Kerrigan will be on NBC on Sunday before the Closing Ceremonies, unless there's a weather delay, at which it may air as rain/fog delay filler first.

The full-length NBC doc on the issue is supposed to air on Sunday on NBC Sports, I guess

# ¿ Feb 18, 2014 15:00

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

NBC is airing a documentary on Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, the KHL team that had the tragic plane crash a few years ago, during Saturday's afternoon Olympics coverage.

# ¿ Feb 20, 2014 19:12

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

Dantu posted:

Requiem for the Big East to premier March 16th.

gently caress yes. I can't do Selection Sunday without a 30 for 30 now.

# ¿ Feb 24, 2014 20:38

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

R.D. Mangles posted:

Anyone see the Harding and Kerrigan documentary on NBC? I'm curious how it stacked up to Price of Gold.

I know three people who saw both and said the NBC one is far better FWIW

# ¿ Feb 25, 2014 03:29

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

AceFace905 posted:

April 17 will be the Bad Boys documentary, with an hour-long roundtable afterwards featuring Simmons, Jalen Rose, Doug Collins, and "several Pistons players from that era".

oh hell yes

# ¿ Mar 10, 2014 18:45

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 20:50

Truther Vandross: Jun 17, 2008

the Nine for IX documentary about the 99 Women's World Cup was happy and awesome

# ¿ Apr 23, 2014 17:12

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