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browntony
Oct 23, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Peep game, my homie Billy the Fridge made a pretty dope city video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVHWxESdN4o

Emerald City bitch :c00lbutt:

do you actually know billy the fridge or

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Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

browntony posted:

do you actually know billy the fridge or

yeah why

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
fight fight fiiight

youngallah
Mar 14, 2012
instead of buying an mpc just try using another program or more synths ... native instruments poo poo is pretty cool

or you can try to go 'native' and use all analog equipment with mpcs/sps which is what some people do

i use fl studio but i might use my maschine i have just laying around here sooner rather than later

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:
I can vouch for Maschine. I use it for pretty much everything now. Make the whole track in the stand alone software then throw it in Ableton for recording. Its the best of digital and hardware interfaces slapped together. And it finally has time stretch!

Jesus H Nyce
Nov 27, 2007

fakejesus143@gmail.com

Motha loving ice cream social in this bitch

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Jesus H Nyce posted:

Motha loving ice cream social in this bitch

I know right? If he's local too we may all have to hang

Maybe even this weekend when Satellite High's up here :D

Tucked In The Cut
Nov 15, 2006

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'd rather brush my teeth
with a rusty razor
than front and bullshit
with all you fakers

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
listen to this BIG O remix, I know you goons love big o as much as I do.

https://soundcloud.com/postpre/big-o-postpremix
https://soundcloud.com/postpre/big-o-postpremix
https://soundcloud.com/postpre/big-o-postpremix



https://soundcloud.com/postpre/big-o-postpremix

The Rubberbandit
Jan 14, 2008
Where's your condom now?!

guy in a jetta posted:

Mostly because I have a friend with an MPC 1000 and he claims that it sounds better than "a computer". This may be a misconception on his and my part. Maybe it's because of the built-in EQs/reverbs/etc that I'm using but I just seem to never be able to get the type of sound I want out of it despite fiddling with it for the better part of ten years.

I suppose this could be lack of skill, ear, and not great samples on my part as well, but I basically feel like there's something inherently lacking with FL Studio's sound. Am I wrong? Should I get some VSTi plugins or something instead?

Your friend sounds like hes talking out of his rear end. Using an MPC won't inherently make your tracks sound better, and if you've been using FL for ~10 years you'll probably find they sound worse until you get a handle on the MPC workflow.

The standard plugins for FL studio are a bit lackluster, but I still use them for >75% of my effects and synths. Sometimes getting "the sound you want" is a matter of knowing the techniques and effect settings involved, but other times its simply "Use Waves plugin X".

As others have said, try out some other programs and maybe they will click better, but IMO FL studio only lacks in the live recording department.

Tucked In The Cut
Nov 15, 2006

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'd rather brush my teeth
with a rusty razor
than front and bullshit
with all you fakers

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

guy in a jetta posted:

Mostly because I have a friend with an MPC 1000 and he claims that it sounds better than "a computer". This may be a misconception on his and my part. Maybe it's because of the built-in EQs/reverbs/etc that I'm using but I just seem to never be able to get the type of sound I want out of it despite fiddling with it for the better part of ten years.

I suppose this could be lack of skill, ear, and not great samples on my part as well, but I basically feel like there's something inherently lacking with FL Studio's sound. Am I wrong? Should I get some VSTi plugins or something instead?

Your friend is wrong. I bet he uses the term "in the lab" on a daily basis. No DAW has an inherent lack of sound. That lovely drum sample you use in fruity loops will sound lovely on an MPC. Lots of people say the same stuff about reason, that it lacks sonic quality. This is how you pick out people who don't actually know anything.

I'm getting flashbacks of a conversation I had with someone where they proclaimed "no producer worth their salt uses firewire." This was one of those guys with a hard-on for analog, though. ugh

Edit: are you saying you only use the VSTs that came with fruity loops? Throw this http://www.soundtoys.com/product/Decapitator on everything. Your track will sound so analogue, so warm and golden, it will basically be aural urine.

Tucked In The Cut fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Nov 24, 2012

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
the MPC vs Reason vs Ableton vs Cubase argument holds no water and any particular "sound" comiing from any of them is a result of the siignal handling by the engineer

if you sample your drums hot directly from vinyl into an mpc, and your levels are cracking it is always goiing to sound better than some chintzy stock drums iin FL


if you use one of those Platinum XXL edition drum kits in Reason its always goin to sound better than the built in 909 kit on the MPC

the sound you get out at the end depends on how well you follow the rules from the inception of the beat to final mastering

if you handle poo poo clean from point A you are going to have the possibility to end up with a better final output

no platform is inherently better than another untiil you start to get a handle on it, once you prefer a platform iit is usually because you are able to get a defined result that you have shaped and eventually perfected

Shovelbearer
Oct 11, 2003
Paragon of Lexicon

THNDRTHF posted:

the MPC vs Reason vs Ableton vs Cubase argument holds no water and any particular "sound" comiing from any of them is a result of the siignal handling by the engineer

if you sample your drums hot directly from vinyl into an mpc, and your levels are cracking it is always goiing to sound better than some chintzy stock drums iin FL


if you use one of those Platinum XXL edition drum kits in Reason its always goin to sound better than the built in 909 kit on the MPC

the sound you get out at the end depends on how well you follow the rules from the inception of the beat to final mastering

if you handle poo poo clean from point A you are going to have the possibility to end up with a better final output

no platform is inherently better than another untiil you start to get a handle on it, once you prefer a platform iit is usually because you are able to get a defined result that you have shaped and eventually perfected

This information should be pushpinned on every message board populated with aspiring producers.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
You could just boil it down to "it's a poor craftsman who blames his tools"

Pimp Cauldron
Aug 3, 2002

A twisted pictoral of phoenix, AZ

good I'll just use my money to replace my lovely radioshack mixer then

The Rubberbandit
Jan 14, 2008
Where's your condom now?!
Unless you do a lot of multitrack recording, or use your own equipment in live shows, I think you missed the point of what we all said.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Radical Griff posted:

Cleaned it up a bit, redid the drum levels, and messed with the opening/added an ending.

I'm actually pretty pleased with it.

What do y'all think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwHiymSojk

invision
Mar 2, 2009

I DIDN'T GET ENOUGH RAPE LAST TIME, MAY I HAVE SOME MORE?

Holy lol.

Freddie Gibbis
Jul 30, 2007

~~ schween lyfe ~~
the reason ppl will think HARDWARE SOUNDS BETTER THAN SOFTWARE is b/c sampling hardware doesn't come with a bunch of lovely presets

you bring in a drum hit from a professional recording and you're bringing in the sound of the compressor, the medium it's recorded on -- there's a lot more information there than just an 'instrument sound.' something sampled from a recording is ALWAYS gonna sound thicker and more full than an 808 sound you generate with a synth cuz it's already been through a mixing and mastering process

thndr and everybody else is right, there is no inherent difference between how 1's and 0's are handled from one environment to another. there's a weird rumor about ableton's summing bus being 'inferior' but that is complete bullshit that makes no technical sense whatsoever and is generally repeated by people who just don't know how to mix their poo poo

problem w/ making hip hop beats is that you have to be an engineer as well as a musician and 95% of 'good beats' is about sound-craft, not the actual notes you choose. lots of dudes kinda forget that when they move from 'instrumental music' to production and will expect that they can just hit a magical PRO BUTTON to make poo poo sound 'thick and loud' but that ain't how it works

just keep practicing

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
skrill talk from a trilliionaire

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:
Me and a long time friend of mine finally got together and started working on a track. So far this is what we got, he's gonna rap over it eventually, but he deleted his facebook and I don't have his email address so I have no idea how to get it to him ergh.

Andyway here it is. http://soundcloud.com/grungerdude91/count-pederast. He makes beats here and they are pretty good http://soundcloud.com/count-trapula

engineering tips would be cool cuz i barely have any idea what i'm doing.

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

Me and a long time friend of mine finally got together and started working on a track. So far this is what we got, he's gonna rap over it eventually, but he deleted his facebook and I don't have his email address so I have no idea how to get it to him ergh.

Andyway here it is. http://soundcloud.com/grungerdude91/count-pederast. He makes beats here and they are pretty good http://soundcloud.com/count-trapula

engineering tips would be cool cuz i barely have any idea what i'm doing.

write him on soundcloud :confused:

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:
poo poo i forgot i could do that ha

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

Me and a long time friend of mine finally got together and started working on a track. So far this is what we got, he's gonna rap over it eventually, but he deleted his facebook and I don't have his email address so I have no idea how to get it to him ergh.

Andyway here it is. http://soundcloud.com/grungerdude91/count-pederast. He makes beats here and they are pretty good http://soundcloud.com/count-trapula

engineering tips would be cool cuz i barely have any idea what i'm doing.

Might wanna go a little easier on the open hat in the first part of count pederast

Pimp Cauldron
Aug 3, 2002

A twisted pictoral of phoenix, AZ

The Rubberbandit posted:

Unless you do a lot of multitrack recording, or use your own equipment in live shows, I think you missed the point of what we all said.

lovely as in poorly made and literally falling apart. is that OK to replace?

whoknew
Sep 18, 2004


oh shit
im lit



Hey y'all. I have this here (mostly done) beat:

http://soundcloud.com/doubl-e/wat/s-3nVlq
http://soundcloud.com/doubl-e/wat/s-3nVlq

tell me if you wanna rap on it and we will make that happen. it's kinda got sleigh bells in it a bit so maybe someone wants to do some kind of weird holiday rap on it something. iunno

spoils
Nov 2, 2012

whoknew posted:

Hey y'all. I have this here (mostly done) beat:

http://soundcloud.com/doubl-e/wat/s-3nVlq
http://soundcloud.com/doubl-e/wat/s-3nVlq

tell me if you wanna rap on it and we will make that happen. it's kinda got sleigh bells in it a bit so maybe someone wants to do some kind of weird holiday rap on it something. iunno

drat this sounds really good. Love the buildup to the keyboard or whatever it is. I would love to try and rap over it but don't have any sort of mic right now. Either way sick beat my dude

whoknew
Sep 18, 2004


oh shit
im lit



spoils posted:

drat this sounds really good. Love the buildup to the keyboard or whatever it is. I would love to try and rap over it but don't have any sort of mic right now. Either way sick beat my dude

thanks dude! it's a Massive square-saw-based synth btw

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic

guy in a jetta posted:

lovely as in poorly made and literally falling apart. is that OK to replace?

poser

Freddie Gibbis
Jul 30, 2007

~~ schween lyfe ~~


here is a work in progress, my poo poo is pretty much done but jesse d is gonna put a verse on it too. if anybody else wants to get on this hit me up cuz i can add another verse to the beat or w/e but it's a pretty crazy rhythm so be prepared to get frustrated writing to it lol

this is my fake black milk poo poo

The Rubberbandit
Jan 14, 2008
Where's your condom now?!


Catching Airwaves - Dopamine Knights

EP just released by my two friends Ace Adams and Ronzo. I co-produced and engineered the entire EP. Feedback welcome

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
hard decisions bangs

whoknew
Sep 18, 2004


oh shit
im lit



sounds great, well mastered, good work!

semon demon
Jul 31, 2006



Whatchyall think

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic
i was about to send you to the sound design thread then this poo poo dropped heavy

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

I can vouch for Maschine. I use it for pretty much everything now. Make the whole track in the stand alone software then throw it in Ableton for recording. Its the best of digital and hardware interfaces slapped together. And it finally has time stretch!

Do you use a Mac because the only poo poo I can't get working right is sampling from currently playing output(like iTunes or Spotify or whatever). SoundFlower used to work but that poo poo's broken now, it has some bug on 64 bit OS's that makes it start distorting

How does your workflow go from Maschine -> Ableton? Like what do you do in Ableton that's easier than in Maschine? I've never tried Ableton

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:

ashgromnies posted:

Do you use a Mac because the only poo poo I can't get working right is sampling from currently playing output(like iTunes or Spotify or whatever). SoundFlower used to work but that poo poo's broken now, it has some bug on 64 bit OS's that makes it start distorting

How does your workflow go from Maschine -> Ableton? Like what do you do in Ableton that's easier than in Maschine? I've never tried Ableton

For sampling I have to use my cheapo external soundcard. if I'm sampling youtube or spotify or what ever, I'll take a patch cord (1/4" on one end and 1/8" on the other in my case) and connect the monitor/headphone output to one of the inputs. I make sure I have the sample monitoring turned off. Its janky but it works.

I'll put together the beat in the stand alone Maschine program and then save it. Then I'll open up Ableton and load the Maschine VSTi and route the separate Maschine instruments (or whatever they're called I can't remember) into different channels. And then I record and mix it. I do it that way since the workflow for it in Ableton is kind of hosed up. Pressing the "play" button wont do anything, neither will sampling internal audio. So Ableton is just there for recording. I've also been having issues lately with running VST inside Maschine so I've been avoiding that.

I used to just do everything in Ableton but I like Maschine so drat much that I do everything with it now. Ableton's effects are pretty drat good out of the box and it just looks appealing, which is why I use it.

And I'm using Windows 7.

youngallah
Mar 14, 2012
interesting. so you just load the stems of the beat you made in the actual maschine software into separate maschine channels in ableton?

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Freddie Gibbis posted:



here is a work in progress, my poo poo is pretty much done but jesse d is gonna put a verse on it too. if anybody else wants to get on this hit me up cuz i can add another verse to the beat or w/e but it's a pretty crazy rhythm so be prepared to get frustrated writing to it lol

this is my fake black milk poo poo

Its 404d.

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Radio du Cambodge
Dec 3, 2007

I tried to practice mixing a little better with this beat, let me know if there's anything glaringly unbalanced or something. I don't know if it's quite hip hop, like I don't know if you could really rap over it that well, but I'm happy with how it turned out.

http://soundcloud.com/zmbeats/droppit

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