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Are you getting the Wii U?
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Yes 9031 65.25%
No 1191 8.60%
Maybe 808 5.84%
I'm an idiot 460 3.32%
Waluigi 1603 11.58%
Waa 748 5.40%
Total: 13841 votes
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Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

al-azad posted:

Multi-tasking. Reggie has said you can minimize the game you're playing and do other poo poo unlike the current consoles which require you to exit a program before opening another. So you can play your game, browse the store, and look up a video walkthrough without exiting anything.

Plus if you're going to be battling your friend and you are using the Gamepad to view in CoD: Black Ops II for example, you still need a high frame rate and more importantly, a consistent framerate. I might be wrong but I believe that's 60 frames per second on the HDTV and 30 frames per second on the GamePad. That takes a lot of resources.

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Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Mak0rz posted:

Question about the Pro controller: Any word as to whether it can be used instead of the Wii Classic controller for Wii games that support it?

I'm pretty sure that's what it is replacing.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Neo Rasa posted:

The average consumer will 100% not see the Gamepad as anything other than a tablet thing for touch games

I think I heard this line of thinking before. I think it was around late 2004? Had to do with handhelds?

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Cherokee Jack posted:

In :canada: we have EB Games instead of Game Stop (though it's the same company) so what are my chances of pre-ordering a non-deluxe console after work tomorrow? Okay, good, or poo poo-out-of-luck? I wouldn't mind having the deluxe version but my wife likes the white one more and would rather save the money and put it towards another game. Also with EB/GS do you have to pay the full pre-order in advance or just a percentage?

I'm not even a huge Nintendo fan, I haven't owned a Nintendo console since the original NES (I do have a DS Lite and DSi) but there's something about the Wii U that really appeals to me.

Just give them a call before you go.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Bombadilillo posted:

Im buying Nano assault right away, that thing looks awesome.

It definitely pulls off some high quality lighting effects.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Policenaut posted:

Whoa, what the? Now that's a really drat obscure pick for Kamiya: Japanese Edo period Zelda clone.

Is it really that obscure when you think of the Nintendoland mini games?

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

AngryBooch posted:

It's common sense that didn't prove out in the current generation. The Wii has the largest install base but 3rd party support is primarily on the 360, PS3, and PC.

If the Wii U has the biggest install base again, that means Nintendo has nothing to worry about. They sold the most consoles at a full profit.

Isn't the whole change in focus because Nintendo doesn't believe they can blue ocean the market again?

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Suaimhneas posted:

Is anyone else hoping that Monolith's new RPG gets localised by NoE again? I liked having British voices for a change. :britain:

Yeah, plus the voice actors were decent.

The biggest issue I have with people complaining about the lack of "core" games on the Wii U (seriously, gamers need to all get together and pick better terms) is that part of this really isn't Nintendo's choice. If EA, Rockstar and Activision decide to not make any third party AAA titles for the Wii U... what can Nintendo do? It won't be their fault that the third party support isn't there. They have now made, by most acccounts the strongest game console on the market. If third parties decide to snub it, Nintendo is poo poo out of luck.

The only thing they could do is help fund a game to be exclusive to the Wii U. Which is what they did with Bayonetta 2. Which funny enough pissed a ton of people off.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

MUFFlNS posted:

How do you know that there won't be a huge graphical jump? People said the exact same thing about the Wii in relation to the PS3/360 and look at how that turned out, the difference was tremendous.

Given the vast amount of rumours and information that has been trickling out regarding the next Microsoft and Sony consoles, chances are that they will in fact be considerably more powerful than the Wii U, to the point where the difference may be as significant as the one between the Wii and PS3/360, or perhaps even more so.

Of course, this could turn out to not be the case, but trying to state your opinion as fact when probability favours the opposite isn't terribly wise I think.

The real issue is that Microsoft and Sony want to push the hardware, there are developers that want them to push the hardware, but publishers are starting to feel the burn on AAA titles and if the cost of gaming goes even higher, something is going to have to give and it will likely come in the price of the games themselves.

Say Sony goes ahead and makes the PS4 so strong it looks like a Wii/PS3 leap. Do you really think games are still going to cost $60 when the budgets for them are breaking $80-100M and there's no guarantee in selling more than 10M copies? If Sony does go for this, the next Sony console is going to feel like a Neo-Geo.

Some might say, "Oh, Sony can take it" but they really can't. There was tons of talk about Sony's losses and how having hardware that is several hundred dollars of a loss is not a viable system for them anymore. So the question is, can Sony afford a huge hardware leap and can publishers afford to make the games and potentially lose on them at $60 a pop?

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

zenintrude posted:

Does Sony make money on Vita system sales or are they selling it at a loss? Seems like it's something that is hemorrhaging them money from all comments I see about it on forums and in the gaming press.

Quick google search brings up two articles:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/tech...article4509317/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-02-sony-sales-highlight-playstation-vita-struggles

Probably top quotes from them:

quote:

Sales in the Game segment sunk 14.5 per cent year-on-year, providing a loss of 3.5 billion yen (£28.69m). This time last year, that number was a positive 4.1 billion yen.

Sony blamed this on falling PS3 and PSP sales, which were only "partially" offset by sales of PlayStation Vita. Sony, however, chose not to reveal specific Vita sales, which were instead lumped together with sales of PSP - which still outsells Vita, weekly, in Japan.

quote:

After Sony returned a record net loss of $5.8-billion for the last fiscal year to March 31, Mr. Hirai promised 10,000 job cuts and big cost reductions in the TV unit, which has clocked losses of about $12-billion in the past decade.

Which sort of serves my original point. I don't think Sony can do the $600 console that costs them $800 to make. Also, 4K in mass market are likely five years away.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

zenintrude posted:

Why not NEC's TurboExpress or SNK's Neo Geo Pocket Color?!

Or GameGear. It says it was from a Berlin Reuters so I wonder which hand helds Germany got.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

computer parts posted:

I think the other elephant in the room is the Kinect/Move. if Microsoft and Sony believe that this is the 'future of gaming' or whatever and insist that their next control scheme be a Wiimote-esque thing then developers may shift focus more to the graphically less demanding but (control wise) easier Wii U.

It still confuses me how people would complain about the price of the Wii-U but to get a 360 on a 250GB hard drive with Kinect you're looking at $400. Just a 360 4GB is $199 at BestBuy in Canada but $299 is too much for a brand new console? I just don't get it. The PS3 160GB is $249, only $50 cheaper for 152GB of built in data instead of getting a touch screen GamePad. But the Wii U is too expensive at $299/$349.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Bobnumerotres posted:

It's almost like developers will flock to wherever their games will sell.

The 3DS is super barren right now though, aside N64 remakes and Mario Kart 7. Glad the Wii U's release is addressing that.

Nobody should buy Nintendo handhelds these days until they have had two years of life. Those two years should be spent playing all of the DS games (or in the DS' case, GBA games) you didn't play at full price and ended up missing on. By the time you finish those (there should be around 30 different games) then go ahead and buy a 3DS.

Only reason I got a 3DS early was because I had the money on Boxing Day, it was $40 cheaper (so Mario Kart 7 was basically free) and it let me give my DS lite to my nephew.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

AngryBooch posted:

I hope you're prepared for the WiiU ports of all that "uninspired poo poo" like Bioshock, Mass Effect, Arkham and Borderlands.

To be fair, Edoraz said most. Naming four games doesn't negate Edoraz' point.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

zenintrude posted:

And Blizzard :ssh:

And Nintendo.

:smug:

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Rake Arms posted:

Is it weird that I'm most excited about Nintendo TVii? Like, I'm always pumped for a new Nintendo system because I love their IPs, and there's a few great looking launch titles, but I suspect the first thing I'm going to do is set up my Nintendo TVii data, program the universal remote, etc (note to self: reactivate Netlfix/Hulu accounts). Unless there's some big Nintendo-style oversight that I'm missing, Nintendo TVii looks loving awesome. I knew they would need to step up their multimedia support to compete, but that came way out of left field.

I thought the gun chamber wheel thing seemed awkward but then again I hated the iPod wheel and I'm sure others are pretty used to it.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Launch games are not a huge leap from the previous generation!? :monocle:

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Policenaut posted:

God, don't loving remind me. I was in Canada and it cost me $120 plus tax.

Every RPG was $100+

:negative:

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Canada has been slow from what people have told me. Only three preorders for Black Wii U's in Windsor at the EB at the mall (hint hint Detroit goons).

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Only the second person at the EB in the Devonshire Mall in Windsor to get the $299 Basic meaning I'm pretty much guaranteed one at launch.

The system they told me is that you leave them your phone number and there's no guarantee on the money down. Basically they get sent so many consoles and if they don't have enough for you at launch they don't. However, if they get five systems and you're number six, you'll receive a phone call when the sixth console is available for you.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Liku posted:

I thought it was built into the console so all games would be able to display on the controller?

It's easy to do but developers have to still plug it in. If they don't want their game to be displayed on the GamePad, it's not like it'll transfer against their will.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

greatn posted:

Yeah Nintendo has this weird attitude of "trust us, it will be comparable. It's not worth talking about online, it would be like talking about breathing air. Trust me, you'll have air". But the fact is they have done nothing to earn that trust and companies who have, still go into great detail about their online systems.

Companies with dev kits know exactly what they can do. It's only potential buyers who don't know.

That said, I completely agree Nintendo should be 100 per cent open and be ready to educate everyone on everything Wii U related.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Isn't that Enix' style with Dragon Quest? They don't really have any history of going graphic heavy with those games as far as I remember.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Katana Gomai posted:

I played it at Gamescom, it's fine. So is the "heft" of the Gamepad Pro, by the way. Can we dial back the "prereleaseness" of this thread a bit, maybe? You people freak out over literally anything when hardly anyone in here has even touched the thing or played a game. (I know that's the reason why but seriously, chill out.)

Are you seriously trying to ask people to be reasonable?

Hell, even I got caught up in it after seeing one quote about Rayman and totally misinterpreting it.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
The most mindboggling thing about the existence of the Wii was not re-manufacturing the Wavebird for the Wii and selling it. They would have easily made a profit, especially in the mid 2000s.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Rake Arms posted:

If there's a silver lining to having owned only a Wii for an entire generation, it's that I'll be playing catch-up on last year's biggest titles for a while on Wii U, so I don't have to worry about a gaming drought :suicide:

There's always Last Story :v:

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Plus IGN has zero credibility anymore to receive a scoop.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Did anyone check out the footage of Conker's Twelve Tales for the N64?

They seem to be pretty far in development as an E for Everyone game.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/09/17/twelve-tales-conker-64-gameplay-surfaces.aspx

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Monster w21 Faces posted:

I don't think it was a lack of confidence. I think it was a case of the Wii not being up to much hardware wise and them not being willing to dedicate enough peoplepower to craft a unique Wii experience.

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Activision_games

Pretty much because there was a solid install base for CoD players on the Wii. It just wasn't 360/PS3 sized.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
"We'll see" is the worst answer. It's like asking your mom if you can get ice cream and she doesn't know how to tell you no.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
If the rumours are true, EA is pissy for Nintendo not adopting their online system.

gently caress Electronic Arts.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Aeros Wilhelm posted:

This is probably a dumb question; but how does the WiiU's specs compare to the 360's and ps3's? I can understand that 2 gigs is greater than 512 megs in terms of ram; but what about its CPU and graphics card? I've heard that most of the test builds given to developers actually use a different CPU that's underclocked, or something to that affect, right?

Word is that the CPU is weaker but the GPU is a huge leap.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Almost Smart posted:

After MGS4, I'm not sure how many MGS fans are left to piss off.

He could always make MGS5 really good with a limited amount of cutscenes. That's sure to piss people off.

At this point I just want to see Nintendo keep their strong indie game lineup for direct download building. And for them to get Journey on Wii U somehow so I can play it.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Policenaut posted:

So for anyone considering Darksiders 2 Wii U, here's what the bonus content for that version is.

You don't have to play the original to understand the sequel, correct?

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Easy plots in a mature game?

No wonder people love this game series!

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Louisgod posted:

MGS fans are kinda like Nintendo fans: You can shove poo poo on a stick and write MGS in it and fans would still find a way to love it despite it still being poo poo on a stick.

Hey that's not fair, this poo poo stick has charm and while it's a representation of the past and repeated play mechanics, at least they are simply selling me their consumer friendly over multiple demographics mascot instead of military warporn!

:v:

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

greatn posted:

Metal Gear Solid is like, the most antiwar series of games there is.

I was actually touching on the Mario vs. CoD argument that pops up everywhere on the Internet.

I'm pretty cool with MGS aside from the cinematic obsession.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

greatn posted:

Just a reminder: They hired a known war criminal who committed acts of treason against the United States to consult on this game, then hyped his name for publicity. So gently caress em.

And then Trent Reznor, the guy who wrote an entire concept album criticizing the Republican right and how the wars they try to push will erode American liberties into salt, decided to do the theme song for the game.

Yeah I don't get it either.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Calaveron posted:

Money is beautiful.

To be fair, he's gotta buy baby clothes these days.

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Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Chaltab posted:

I could take Parsons a lot more seriously if he weren't actually arguing that The Dark Knight is pro-fascism. Faux populism is a real thing and it drives all sorts of bad things, from Glenn Beck to right-wing militia groups.

(Not to excuse the hiring of Oliver North, which is indeed really hosed up.)

So Batman wasn't a quasi-fascist vigilante?

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