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Aranan
May 21, 2007

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Hey, guys. I've been talking with some recruiters lately and right now I'm considering enlisting in the Army, specifically doing something in the 35 series. My first goal was doing the warrant officer program and being a rotary wing aviator or commissioning, but apparently I'm an old fart (28, will be 29 in January) and neither OCS or WOCS will take me. I'm not too put out because some of the 35 MOS look pretty nice. I do have a degree (English) and know the flowchart very well. That said... am I one of the exceptions here?

Also, can anyone shed some light on 35P, 35T, 35N, 35Q, or really any of the others in that series? What would someone in that MOS actually do on a day-to-day basis? What civilian job skills could I expect to pick up?

Secret Spoon posted:

Man, being in the navy at 29 as an e-nothing is going to be a trip for you haha. I kinda hope you get in so I drink your tears while I stroke my beard being the proverbial old man on the porch smoking his corn cob pipe thinking of days gone by.
Not quite what I was hoping to see, but it's good to know there's at least one place where people don't pull punches about this stuff.

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Aranan
May 21, 2007

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DoktorLoken posted:

The friends I have from AIT are in their early 30s and 35 series on active duty. One of them seems to enjoy it quite a bit (and seems to be getting quickly groomed for leadership positions) while the other hates life. Both of them enlisted with degrees, one after being unable to get an OCS slot.

I'm around your age and it isn't bad at all being an older E4 in the ARNG. Although the unit I'm in isn't filled with retards either. But then again in the RC, I see lots of SPC that are probably over 40. Sucks to be them. Either way it takes a bit of humility, just do your job without complaining and act mature.

Have you asked them about an age waiver for OCS?
I'm totally aware that O would be better than E and it was my first choice, but what my recruiters have told me is that I'm beyond the age range to be a candidate for O. I went by today again to work on my packet, but I'll call tomorrow and ask about getting an age waiver. From what I've read here, it seems like waivers of all forms are getting to be really rare, but it can't hurt to ask.

Speak of, what the heck is the age limit, anyway? I swear I read something on goarmy.com that said it was 35, but apparently I was wrong.

not caring here posted:

All of the above is accurate, and O time in the Army is cake compared to E time, but if you have to go E, and you don't like it and will bail as soon as your re-enlistment comes up, 35 series is the best of the worst plan. Failing all else you've picked up a language, or worked in cyberwarfare, or got a bunch of certs, or are an analyst, and you get a TS clearance at the minimum.

This, plus GI Bill, could actually be considered a fair trade even if you don't like it. Unless, of course, you end up dead.
This is kind of how I'm looking at it now. I'd be getting a reliable job for the next 4ish years that will either directly or indirectly provide me with necessary training for a career when I get back into civilian life.

That said, I'll still check in tomorrow about an age waiver just in case. WOCS or OCS are my first choices, so I'm going to pursue them a little longer before going further with the 35 series.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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So anyone know anything about the day-to-day life as a 35P in the Army? Does it depend a lot on which language you get assigned for DLI?

Bonus question: same for 35T and 35N.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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Guy in my platoon got chaptered out for failing APFTs. He got something like six months pay and an honorable. Kind of feel like he beat everyone else still in...

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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Poor bastard Congratulations to him.

The poor bastard

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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My recruiter gave me a really fancy Army mug, but two seconds later he told me to go pee in it because they were out of the normal piss test containers.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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"Ask us about joining the US military!"

Don't loving join the US military.

Signed,
People who have joined the US loving military and know what the gently caress they are taking about.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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Your recruiter will lie to you. They all do. No joke.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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Stultus Maximus posted:

The flowchart is about not enlisting with a degree.
Enlisting means you go to the recruiter, sign on the line to be a hardcore 92A Automated Logistical Specialist, go through boot camp, and become Private Fuckstain, Latrine Cleaning Warrior.


Whoa, whoa. Hold on.

It's Specialist Fuckstain, Latrine Cleaning Warrior.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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SumYungGui posted:

...and as a 35T it will never go any further. Enjoy.

Not true! My squad leader was only a SPC for 5 years before picking up E5. We can totally become NCOs*


*Nope

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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I asked for an officer recruiter but got told I was too old so here I am! :v:

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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Godholio posted:

Yep. You'll almost certainly hate the four years in between, though.

As someone who enlisted with 4 year degree to get GI Bill and some certs/training in the 4 years of my contract, Godholio is right.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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True story: I enlisted in the Army and, as a result, I am a big dumb idiot.

Join another branch or don't join. I guess the Marines are about as bad, they always look so angry/sad and complain about getting Army hand-me-downs, which surprises me because our poo poo doesn't work in the first place, so I am terrified of what we'd pass off to someone else.

Aranan
May 21, 2007

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Nostalgia4Ass posted:

Four submissions and 3 weeks later, you will finally have a working statement. But not before pissing everyone at your doctor's office off and wasting lots of gas and many hours. When you could just make them tell you exactly what it needs to look like up front.

By the way, this is a 100% accurate depiction of how everything works in the military. This is what you're getting into.

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Aranan
May 21, 2007

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Kandak Sayaqa posted:

So painting rocks is a no-joke thing, huh? I always thought it was urban legend / boot hazing a la glowstick batteries or PRC-E9.



I narrowly avoided a rock painting detail in AIT, but saw it happen firsthand.

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