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DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:Here are basic qualifications for the Army. I will do my best to attempt to address what can be waived and whatnot, but there are sometimes crazy loopholes that old time recruiters are better at knowing how to exploit than myself. These will maybe serve as a guideline for other branches, but I'm sure it will vary on some by quite a bit. That's a pretty pro post. Can you add some guidelines about financial status? I know I've seen quite a few posts, and been asked a few times about types/amounts of debts, and civil action related to those debts, ect.
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Seriously, let me fix this statement for you:Friar Zucchini posted:If you're looking to get anything done quickly, the military ain't it. Ridiculous expectations like yours are why the contributors to this thread are so frank with their advice.
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droey posted:Combat medic seems to be something I would like to do. I've considered training as an EMT but I figure the Army would teach me a lot of useful skills that would look great on a resume for pharmacy/medical (or PA, nursing, etc) school down the road. I want to take a break from this academic cycle. I want to push myself to be a stronger person and learn valuable survival techniques. I know that I'll have to learn a lot as a medic, but the fact that it will be something I could implement in my job immediately just engrosses me. I'm reading a U.S. Army survival manual and a lot of parts about treating trauma are very interesting to me. I'm a good shot with a rifle,understand their cleaning/assembly, and can put rounds in a 4 inch circle from pretty far away. I don't want to kill anyone if I had to be deployed. However, the safety of my buddies and I would supersede any reservations I had. First: If you want to be a PA or Doc, go to school to be a PA or a Doc. Don't do something because it looks good on a resume for the future. Don't join ANY BRANCH so you can do something later on. Do it because that is what you want to do, or go to school for that other thing. My experience with regular Army medics is very limited, but they do VERY basic things. The worst I've seen involved checking in people for sick call. They take vital signs, fill out paperwork, and stand around until 5 so you can go home. A lot of guys do get better training, but it all depends on who they work for. I know of one who has been assigned all over the world (to task forces) to work in trauma centers as part of forward support teams and surgical teams. My impression is, as a regular medic, this is rare. Your training is EMT level, you are always under the oversight of a Doc, PA or Nurse Practitioner. You are pretty much limited to apply tourniquet, put in IV, and run away. There are other higher level medics out there, and if you have a genuine interest in trauma, they do really cool stuff. Your special operations medics (SF, SEAL, Ranger, 160th Flight Medics) go to an amazing school and have better opportunities to practice at a higher level. Some independently. Its still pretty much stabilize and hand off to a Doctor, but over a longer time scale and worse injuries. The important part is that these medics exist so teams can do high risk activities, which you participate in. If you're not up to be a shooter (PJ/Ranger/SEAL/Marine Recon or SF dude) FIRST, this is not for you. edit: There are medical programs out there that will take you with a degree and send you to med school, and you'll come out as a doctor with a job. I don't know any details about them. iceslice fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Oct 15, 2012 |
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Oxford Comma posted:Just outta curiosity, I know GiP tries to dissuade those with degrees from enlisting. But what about the guy who has a degree in Dutch Literature, with a 2.5 GPA from U of Phoenix? This guy isn't going to get a commission. People are going to do what they want, regardless of the voices screaming at them on the internet. There is really nothing wrong with enlisting with a degree if you know what you're getting into, and want to do it anyway, but people who post in this thread have no clue. Most of us are simply trying to inform people that they have the opportunity to do better, even if they won't.
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CRF posted:I recently left the Marines as a 1stLt and am about to leave for the Peace Corps in a few months. I'd like to rejoin the military after my Peace Corps time, either Special Forces or SEALs (officer). Would there be any restrictions/difficulties serving in the Peace Corps would incur? I know there is a restriction from joining the CIA for 10 years and there would be some difficulties obtaining a TS clearance. The Army and Navy recruiting websites weren't much help so any insight will be appreciated. I'm also out of the country doing some volunteer work so contacting a recruiter would be difficult. Thanks. You won't be able to initially join Army SF as an officer because of the rank requirements to apply. I don't know what seal officer requirements are, but I'm sure they are published just like the sf ones. Google SORB for more info army side.
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Ohms posted:I don't have a house full of poo poo but I do own things. Like you mentioned, TV, Xbox, clothes, and my computer, motorcycle, etc. I'm assuming you're not married right?
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Seriously find a way to finish your degree. There are many better ways to see if you have "it," and to push your self, but finishing a degree after you're done loving around is very hard. You'll hear it over and over again from this forum: Do not enlist with a degree, but that sure as gently caress means don't quit school and enlist. When you've got the diploma, take a hard look at your life and start researching military job options (officer, or enlisted side) and see if its something you want to do. You should also start looking at jobs that will give you marketable skills while you're serving, and when you get out. The military as a whole is downsizing, and people getting out are going to be looking to pick up DOD contracts. Guys who work on military technical systems, have clearances, have connections, and have degrees are the ones who pick those kinds of jobs up before anyone else. I was in your shoes before, but a bit older. I wish I had finished my degree before I signed my time away. There are a lot of awesome things to do in the military, and if you're still excited about it when you're done go for it.
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Pyrok posted:Well, the only thing about that. If I finish my degree, if I stay a civilian my salary will be insane. Even starting out, I'd be looking at 70k+ a year. I'm not set on anything yet, but I'm afraid that if I wait to finish my degree, I'd just stay a civilian. There's nothing wrong with that, just make the decision at that time. You'll either be really excited about joining and have done tons of research on it, or you'll know for sure you don't want to.
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That is one squared away soldier, I mean look how high is high and tight is?
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LEGIT WAR CRIMINAL posted:You can't be told how it sucks, you have to experience it. That's why we all still joined after being told how much it sucks. That and recruiter lies. This should be the first line of the OP. That way when people get mad at us for poo poo talking them and telling them not to join, there's at least a little bit of a warning. edit: I don't know how to show my appreciation, but its posts like the previous one that really make my day. Somehow having a place on the internet to just be retarded and trash talk people is awesome. The mods have to know its illogical, and a waste of bandwidth, but it really does make life a little bit better. iceslice fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Mar 21, 2013 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:The last time Vilepilot went on a spree Vas wasn't around after about half an hour so I shot Ozma a PM to help out since she was already actively patrolling a Bradley Manning thread. Vas showed up shortly after and cleaned up the place. For the rest of the day I had something nagging in my mind about that. I felt bad that I went to Ozma to get rid of the mentally ill threads. Then when I sent an apology to Vas for doing so, it loving dawned on me. I jumped the chain of command. I had something buried down that made me feel like I was bad or wrong in doing that and almost expected reprisal. That's what the military does to you. I was on leave for a few days with my family, and before I went out drinking for the night I told them where I was going, the others I was taking with me, the time I was expecting to be back, what to do if I didn't get back in time. I felt like such a scum bag for not having an "A." I think its even more hilarious when I hear my teammates who have kids talking about how they "make their kids give them a GOTWA" before they send them out to play with their friends. Its really common sense poo poo, but I personally think its one of the better examples to come out of a military lifestyle. I do however find my self appologizing to people, usually in service jobs like hotels, because I have to reach into my pocket to get my passport/credit card, or don't have a pen in my hand ready to sign whatever they hand me. That's some crazy military stuff right there.
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Aug 12, 2013 23:08
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Hekk posted:Not paying attention to details is the exact reason why so many people cry about getting hosed by the military during their enlistment. How many times did you go through the enlistment process? Twice right? I processed 243 people for enlistment in a three year period. Your one time switching DEPs obviously makes you more knowledgeable than those who did this poo poo as recruiters for years right? While your information might be technically accurate, you're not being informative. You're absolutely right that people should know the technical difference in nomenclature between the time length of a contract and their commitment time. It is their personal fault for signing up for something they don't understand, and somehow it still happens all of the time. That is not the point of this forum or thread. The point is not to sharp shoot people on their word choice, but to give simple, succinct answers to questions that are typically asking an opinion. Being a pompous, unforgiving rear end in a top hat does hold true to the opinion that most of us have of Recruiters. I hope anyone reading this thread who is looking to join can see the difference between Hekk and everyone else that posts here.
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4 years in with nearly 26 use-or-lose means I have plenty of free time to edit this post into awesomeness. I'm imagining my self in Los Angeles on The Price is Right playing the game "YES OR NO!"Cloudy McPouty posted:While the x-ray program had it's place. It is time it ended. Cloudy McPouty posted:There are currently 12,000 Green Berets...12,000. That is nearly the size of the 82nd Airborne Division. So now you have a division worth of Green Berets that are all trying to fit in to 3 Battalions each (4th is slowly being consolidated at each Group). Cloudy McPouty posted:Do NOT sign an 18x contract in the current Army. You will experience an attrition rate of something close to 80-90% for 18x candidates while in the SFQC because they don't need them. Yup. Cloudy McPouty posted:You will waste time in the SFQC(if you even make it through SFAS). If you are at all serious about bettering yourself by enlisting, then go to RASP. Cloudy McPouty posted:You can always go to SFAS once you have an adequate amount of Team Leader/Squad Leader time. The 18 series are not going anywhere, but it is not a good time to be entering as an 18x. Cloudy McPouty posted:You are looking at a virtual guaranteed ticket to the 82nd ABN DIV.
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Cloudy McPouty posted:Your edit of my post is nonsensical. The edit was supposed to be nonsensical. This is the internet and I was mostly loving around. I'll rephrase it into something that makes more sense: No one has asked this in a long time, but if someone really wants to go 18x, get up and try. Self selection is the greatest attrition. That being said the vast majority of people (RA or x-ray, it doesn't matter) are not going to make it. More importantly all Groups need good people. It doesn't matter that Afghanistan ending or there are any projected numbers of "percentage of strength," guys get out for all kinds of reasons. Some of them have been at war for the last decade and their family lives are ruined. Some of them are physically broken but have been sticking it out. Some of them are just going to be totally bored because their lives are no longer smashing down doors and blowing things up. With the end of an event comes a shift in focus. With that shift in focus comes an increase in attrition. I had a bunch of poo poo typed out but I'm going to keep it simple: On a good team the guy who is the best at the task is the one who is in charge. It doesn't matter where you come from, if your team has confidence in your capability you're the one who does it. Experience in the RA is a critical foundation, but being able to think and learn fast is more important. You never know what will end up on your plate, and you have to be prepared to learn and do whatever it takes to make a successful mission. Its actually my favorite part of the job. edit: Just to be clear you're 99% right on with your posts. My disagreement was in discouraging people to try, not in any facts you stated about SF in general. Back to the regular programming: sforzacio posted:You know that Katy Perry video where her boyfriend cheats on her so she gets even by joining the Marines and is like, "This is the part of me that you can never, ever, ever, take away from me~" I am a special snowflake, the Army can never take that away from me. I AM A CHAMPION AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME ROARRRRRRR~ iceslice fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Dec 23, 2013 |
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