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Jun 22, 2005

There was a guy in my unit who attempted suicide in basic, and he got his TS/SCI. I don't think depression is a certain disqualification.

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Jun 22, 2005

Flat feet don't really matter anymore. I have severely flat feet, and the Army didn't even need to waive it. Just marked it down.

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Jun 22, 2005

xSousuke posted:

Long overdue response but thanks for the feedback about my flat feet issue. Also to be honest, while I really do love my country appreciate what the guys in the Army and especially Marines do, I can honestly say I don't want to ever go into either one, especially the Marines. Our current government is so fkin gung ho about sticking its nose into everything outside of our borders, and since the Iraq war started I've heard plenty of stories about people being called back for 3 tours of duty. I don't want to come back missing limbs or in a body bag.

Can anyone tell me how the job opportunities for an IT specialist fair in the armed forces/government?

if you're worried about getting deployed, don't join the military.

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Jun 22, 2005

uh enlisting to get all of your student loans paid off isn't a bad idea. A dude at my unit enlisted with a degree, got over $80k in student loans paid off, and now he's out. With no student loan debt. And veteran's benefits. Being enlisted really isn't all that bad; yeah, commissioning would be better, but to get a fuckload of student loan debt paid off, it's worth it.

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Jun 22, 2005

VIK no one is saying enlisting with a degree is the best idea. They're saying that hey, maybe if this guy hasn't been able to find a loving job for 2+ years after law school, it's not such a terrible option. Yeah, he should try and commission first if he can, but odds are slim that he will be able to.

As for your experience, you were in combat arms. Not every branch is combat arms. Life in intel is pretty loving easy. I can count on my fingers the amount of times I was stuck doing janitor bullshit. No, the military isn't perfect, but it's not bad, and the benefits it gives you are loving great. This is a chance for this dude to erase all his student loan debt and get a fresh start, instead of paying it off until he's 45.

Yes, having a college degree is a good thing. No one is denying that. But the paradigm is no longer "have degree = great job" automatically the way that it used to be. Just because the dude has a degree doesn't mean that he will be able to find a decent job. The military is a chance for him to wipe out the debt that he already accrued, and avoid accruing more if he needs retraining to be marketable.

While I was in, and when I first got out, I fully subscribed to the FTA mindset like you do. But looking back now that I've been out a while, it gave me a ton. I made a bunch of money as a contractor, and now I get paid to go to school, which is also free. The military isn't really that bad at all.

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Jun 22, 2005

DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:

I'm enlisted and have 3 cars :smug:

but no motorcycle? a shameful enlisted

also taking life advice from an unemployed former artillery guy who spent 4 years in college with no degree sounds like an awesome plan

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Jun 22, 2005

There are travelling classes that go around the Army for more difficult certs, like CCNA and CISSP. That's how I got my CCNA. It's all completely free for soldiers.

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Jun 22, 2005

IT guys got first priority, but it was open to anyone who wanted to go if it wasn't full of them. I was an intel guy, but just signed up and went. I signed up for the CISSP class too, but it got dropped because not enough people signed up.

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Jun 22, 2005

you should definitely enlist as a 13B with a degree

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Jun 22, 2005

Honestly, I can't recommend being an imagery analyst enough. Really easy job. A lot of job opportunities when you get out. Really chill.

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Jun 22, 2005

honestly two weeks in hell looked relatively easy compared to what i've heard from people who went to selection but vOv

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Jun 22, 2005

if you put jorts on your tattoo along with other assorted enlisted paraphernalia i will personally throw in money with shim

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Jun 22, 2005

I just got an email the other day about going back in as an 18X, so they must still need them.

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Jun 22, 2005

if he really wants to do cool guy stuff he has a better chance of doing it at the regiment. he should take an option 40 contract.

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Jun 22, 2005

are you really basing your decision on what service to join on nicknames? maybe the marines really are for you

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Jun 22, 2005

i think if everyone in GiP could do it over again, we'd all join the coast guard

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Jun 22, 2005

All source guys really don't make that much money as contractors, and neither do linguists outside super rare like Pashto. The jobs are actually relatively uncommon. You're much better off going into one of the specialized intel fields. 35G pretty much the greatest job.

I mean I had an incredibly easy time in the Army, and have had no shortage of well paying jobs since I got out, but still...the Coast Guard. Just seems like the life.

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Jun 22, 2005

the only other imagery analyst on this forum is renraku/fwf. makes us all look bad :(

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Jun 22, 2005

Getting a 99 on the ASVAB is really not that hard, so if that's the main obstacle to doing it, go for it.

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Jun 22, 2005

JohnnyHardcore posted:

You will likely have personal time at the end of the day (We did in the Army even 9 years ago) and you can use that time to talk about which actress you would nail if you had to make a choice, or you can use it to get SWOLE. Well, US military definition of swole anyway.

is this really even a decision to make? the answer is just so obvious

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Jun 22, 2005

squarerandom posted:

So had I my physical last week, and my DEP day(?) to talk about jobs is on the 12th. I'm going in for reserves and thinking about doing Admin as I'm a weirdo who likes paperwork and nice pens. Is there any jobs I should absolutely avoid or look for? I scored a 70 on my Asvab, but don't recall any of the specific grades. I'm an apprentice butcher at the moment. So something as far away from that as possible. Thanks

How does someone love paperwork? Can you seriously please explain this to me? I'm baffled. But if you love paperwork, go 42A (HR) and as a bonus, that's usually where the only half decent looking girls in the Army are. When I was going through AIT, there was a girl reclassing from 42A who had the biggest tits I've ever seen. She was a skinny girl too. The drill sergeants actually had to take her aside and tell her to wear 2 sports bras for PT because the bouncing was a distraction. She was really dumb and ended up failing and going back to 42A.

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Jun 22, 2005

anne frank fanfic posted:

Theres good news for you regarding iraq, bad news regarding your awareness of current events

this made me lol but since it needs content mandarin is a language in high demand so join!!!

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Jun 22, 2005

gleep gloop posted:

I knew two people who took loan repayment instead of the GI bill. One apparently hosed up some paperwork or something and got like $5,000 of a promised $40k, the other paid off...a whole ten Gs!

My old roommate enlisted for 6 years, got the army to pay off $60k in student loans in 2 years as well as a bonus, and then promptly went to OCS, where he had a 4 year ADSO (which he already had for the original 6 year contract). I feel like he was the first one ever to win at the army.

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