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Bright Eyes posted:When I took my ASVAB the Army recruiter was talking to his recruits about how he doesn't respect any officer who wasn't enlisted first. My recruiter acknowledged. Also said he's a recruiter, because they were gonna kick him out otherwise. Felt bad for the kids he was lying to. Jesus this is the number one dumb thing recruiters and not officers say.
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vacation in merica posted:I kinda hinted at it in the one I posted, but I think maybe HCT would know exactly how likely it is for someone admitting drug use to enter the military. I thought the answer was basically hell no these days (same with the mental health stuff) but maybe I'm off.
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Sep 25, 2012 05:25
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Please tell me you've had to waiver someone with two wives, that sounds hilarious. Or am I misreading that somehow?
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Oct 2, 2012 07:03
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Pilot requires a security clearance and you will never, ever, ever, get a clearance having been diagnosed with depression. The second ever comes from being medicated for it. I'm sorry. 
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Oct 7, 2012 04:33
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Do not lie. They will find out. You have a good degree and sound pretty smart. You can easily find a better, more fulfilling job.
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Oct 7, 2012 04:37
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droey posted:Thing is, I'm not really depressed anymore. Otherwise I would be continuing the medication. Is there no waiver or way to show them that I'm mentally capable and not a risk? You can ask a recruiter. Worst case scenario is he says no. I very strongly doubt, VERY STRONGLY, doubt you can ever get a clearance. You need the highest clearance possible to fly. Even if you aren't depressed now, even if you never were depressed and it was just a lovely doctor it doesn't matter. You were diagnosed and medicated for depression.
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Oct 7, 2012 04:47
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It's possible he can get a clearance, buy I very strongly doubt it. Can't hurt to try though. Just don't lie!
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Oct 8, 2012 17:48
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Oxford Comma posted:Just outta curiosity, if your therapist has put you on antidepressants as a teenager, how does the military find out? Do they pull your records, or is it just something they ask people when they do their background check? Vasudus hit it on the head. It's possible to hide but if they find out you will never have a chance since you lied.
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Oct 10, 2012 01:37
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I would be surprised if they send you home for underweight. Over is a different story. Just start packing your body with as much crap as you can. Peanut butter is pretty good for that. Just spoon peanut butter on bread into your mouth.
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Oct 11, 2012 08:30
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Ziji posted:Our scale at home is pretty out of wack, but my best estimate would be no more than 5lbs underweight, and 5lbs underweight is worst case scenario. I'd say at this point I'm about 2 or 3 lbs underweight, but I'm still eating a lot. Oh, yeah you'll probably be fine. I had the exact opposite problem when I shipped, I was literally four pounds over (Still, they were loving generous with what was over and I was fat as gently caress) and they weren't going to ship me until some old black dude who worked there said basic would take care of it for me. Thanks mysterious black dude! Funny story, there was a NG split ops guy there, you know the people who do basic one summer and AIT the next. He was getting ready to ship to AIT, was super smug about having done basic, and was FOURTY POUNDS OVERWEIGHT!
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Oct 11, 2012 18:43
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FreeFunnelCake posted:If I continue on my current path and graduate in 2015 with a BS in accounting and a GPA around 3.45-3.6, what do you think my prospects are for getting into an OCS program in the Army or Navy? I don't have any medical or discipline issues and I think I would score pretty well on any physical tests. Thanks Who knows what the military's needs will be like in 2015. If we continue to downsize it might be way tougher. If we invade someone maybe way easier.
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Nov 28, 2012 00:52
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Internet Wizard posted:This is probably a dumb question, but if I have a housemate that smokes pot and does a crappy job of ventilating his room, I don't have to worry about that showing up when I go through MEPS, do I? No. Unless you literally live in a perfectly airtight closet.
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Dec 5, 2012 03:27
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We're felony drug waivers ever really that common? Even during the surge days?
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Dec 11, 2012 22:35
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We need a stickied thread titled "If you got caught with drugs or took anti-depressants you can't join the military. ;-("
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Dec 12, 2012 19:04
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BUSH 2112 posted:Is that necessarily always true? I put in my application to join the Navy, and from what I'd read online, people seemed to say that as long as it's been at least a year since you'd been prescribed them, and you don't seem like a crazy person to the MEPS psychiatrist, that it wasn't very difficult to get a waiver. I can pretty much tell you it's a death sentence nowadays. The military is cutting down and that means finding everything they can to ensure they just get 100% golden children. Also with the suicide rate still rising they REALLY don't want to let anyone in who has any history of mental health issues.
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Dec 19, 2012 07:30
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Ohms posted:I think my desire to get Airborne and a possible Option 40 in my contract is less than my desire to leave soon. I didn't hate my time in the army, if I could go back I'd do it again. But especially as someone a little older you'll see the job definitely has some major flaws. A lot of dumb things are done just because, your superiors aren't necessarily smarter or even more experienced than you, the lifestyle can be lovely, and there's a good chance you will be vastly over-worked while your peers skate by never doing poo poo.
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Dec 20, 2012 02:14
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There are exceptions to every rule but GENERALLY the Airforce is the least "military" and the Marine Corps the most. It's usually seen as Marines, Army, Navy, Airforce. I'm sure there are some lame rear end Marine units and some high-speed airforce ones but most of the time this is a fair view. The Navy seems to vary a bit in this, there can be a lot of rear end-busting hard work in it compared to other branches.
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Dec 27, 2012 23:49
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Maybe it's just the people I talk to but the navy seems to have a lot of labor intensive jobs that require lovely working hours and don't really have a benefit. If you're joining the military purely for benefits and don't give a gently caress about the job itself, you may as well get the easiest one you can, since whether you're shamming or busting your rear end you get paid the same.
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Dec 28, 2012 00:20
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I got five at two years in the Army because I'm a battle proven super-trooper. 
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Dec 29, 2012 07:51
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Ixian posted:Man, 23 years and counting since I picked up my DD214 and re-joined the sloppy civilian world and there are still people who think joining the Army is a good idea because they can't think of any other options. I even made the nice flowchart in the OP for you all, come on I don't know, in today's world the GI Bill is probably worth it to most people. Let's look at your options if you aren't rich. Go to college, take out massive loans that will NEVER go away, be forced to work lovely meaningless jobs where you aren't respected, are treated like dirt, don't have health insurance, probably pay out the rear end just to get to work, and your boss would pay you less but the law wont let him. Or join the military, work a lovely meaningless job for three or so years, that pays better than you'd get otherwise, has health insurance, and may give you valuable experience/a clearance for bigger and better jobs when you get out. Then get out, get unemployment, go to FREE college, get a check every month for more than minimum wage, and have no student loan debt. The military isn't perfect, even with the ending of Iraq and soon Afghanistan there is a very real chance of serious trauma and possibly death, but poo poo, the benefits are loving amazing. I'd take three years of decently paying misery over 4 years of living off ramen for like a 25% at best shot at a decent job, with a life time of debt.
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Jan 6, 2013 21:57
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drat, 4B for weight control?
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Jan 10, 2013 18:59
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You should marry for love. 
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Jan 23, 2013 16:16
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Basically his numbers are set go away. It's bizarro 2007.
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Feb 8, 2013 22:02
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YOU AREN'T GETTING INTO THE MILITARY WITH ADHD!
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Mar 20, 2013 07:28
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Dirty_Moses posted:It has already been stated in the thread that if I stop taking the medicine for twelve months then I can, though. With a waiver. That you won't get. This is 2013 not 2007. The military doesn't need bodies it needs recruits that it can guarantee will pass all of the screening, exams, and tests prior to entry to maximize the chance to complete training. It can not afford to waste money on recruits who have even the slightest chance of being a problem. The military has a terrible suicide problem. One of the biggest reasons for this is mental illness. The military allowed mebtally ill soldiers to join and now it has to deal with it. This costs a ton of money and hurts readiness. The military considers ADHD a mental illness. Sorry. TLDR you aren't getting in even if you're off meds for a year. How about you stop breathing forever.
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Mar 20, 2013 07:40
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Because now I get paid $2,000 a month to go to a $45,000 dollar a year school for free.
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Mar 20, 2013 07:51
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ethanol posted:A few more questions about the ASVAB. Nothing like the clerk selling my a ASVAB practice book telling me how well she did on the test in high school just to get a half day... me with my BA... well I guess I can expect a lot of that business. You will take the computerized version. Yes you will take the ASVAB before MEPS where you are drug test. But you should probably accept the fact that your drug days are over.
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Apr 15, 2013 02:45
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ethanol posted:I don't give a poo poo about smoking pot ever again, I just happened to be smoking joints with my sister in law recently and no way in hell I'm gonna risk THC popping up on a government exam, so I'm giving it a nice long 3 months before I test. That should be enough time to really be serious about signing too. You should be cool then. If your recruiter tries to schedule you for a MEPS in the time frame you would fail a test just tell him. Mine worked with me and made up a reason I had to delay. Enjoy what freedom you have left, just don't gently caress up your military stint for a few hours of being high.
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Apr 15, 2013 03:28
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SERE is Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape. I may have mixed up the E's but that's what it is. I'm pretty sure you do it as SF but compared to selection and the SFs Q course I imagine it's pretty trivial. Our very own iceslice is SF you PM him he will probably have helpful advice. I've always heard rucking fucks with people bad so, learn to ruck! Put weight on your back and build up to rucking long distances. Also you will probably fail but maybe not!
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Apr 15, 2013 19:30
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I always want to laugh at people but I enlisted into 13 series. I was 17 though.
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Apr 16, 2013 23:12
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Are you trolling? Dude, 95% of your job is going to be lovely bitch work. I hope all the best for you, honestly, but as a lower enlisted artilleryman life won't be as cool as you may think. Intelligence won't get you promoted in the 13 series. Edit: Didn't see the last line. I'm glad you appreciate the spot your in but...dude 13 series?
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Apr 17, 2013 01:32
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Nimmy posted:When I say it's about lifestyle I don't mean that it will be awesome to do bitch work. And hell, I have a whole life to do some office poo poo; hell I've been doing office poo poo my whole life. I wanted to do something different and this is different. Maybe that sounds dumb to you and everyone else in the thread. I wish you all the best, honestly, but you should have picked another job IMO.
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Apr 17, 2013 02:03
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Nimmy posted:Maybe so. I don't mean to come across so defensive either. I'm cool with it for now and I don't imagine I'll be in this MOS for 20 years. And hell man, howitzers need smart people too. Please back out. Go 35/25/other branch equivalent. Take something with you after your contract. You get paid the same whether your pulling weeds or sitting in an office.
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Apr 17, 2013 02:16
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I went 13M because I wanted to kill people but was too much of an awkward dork to go 11B. I would up getting shot at, blown up, and shooting people anyway. Sure I have the GI bill but no relevant experience from my service. Almost everyday I wish I did a job that would give me a boost. Something that mattered, a learned skill instead of "IM A VET HURR!" You can get PAID experience from the army. Please, do something better.
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Apr 17, 2013 02:18
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ethanol posted:So just curious, how does the process of the drug waiver work? Depends on how recent and how much. Could be difficult nowadays. STOP DOING DRUGS IF YOU WANT TO JOIN!
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Apr 17, 2013 02:41
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ethanol posted:I have. Assuming 2 years back in college. Open ended.. more than 5 times? Only MJ. I just want to know what it actually entails. I'd probably lie, because the chances of them finding out are low. If you aren't hot you're probably good. But if you are going for a clearance you never know.
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Apr 17, 2013 02:46
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Godholio posted:The next eighteen replies will be variations of JESUS CHRIST DON'T loving ENLIST WITH A DEGREE. One
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Apr 17, 2013 17:07
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What does the peace corps even really do?
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Apr 17, 2013 21:15
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ethanol posted:Nothing gives me confidence in the army like taking their practice asvab and noticing all of the answers for one of the math problems are incorrect. It's A.
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ethanol posted:25 x .25 = 6.25 I'm being funny.
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