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They aren't being defensive they're not allowing weed and alcohol to be conflated. It's an important distinction to make if dialogue about the federal schedule system is to move forwards.
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Lord Of Texas posted:I worked as a software developer at one of the 3 companies you listed and never heard of anyone being drug tested, even in positions which required federal security clearance. My experience in the Midwest has been the same.
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Xeom posted:Here is my prediction and people can make fun of me if they want. Why have the feds been so silent then?
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Obama says marijuana not 'top priority' Looks like his response is about what we expected.
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And? Of course they're doing that they follow and enforce federal law. I'm having trouble seeing what your point is.
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I'm not defending it but don't act surprised when the Feds enforce their own laws. Also you were asking of anyone would find it worth it, which I'd point at the pretty healthy pot markets that have sprung up all across the country as evidence that yes, they do think it's worth it. People found it worth it back during the height of the drug war. It's not perfect but this environment is thousands of times more friendly than it was just a decade ago. We have a model towards pushing legalization that has been working and all signs are saying will continue to work. This stuff doesn't happen overnight. Its really really dumb to throw up your hands and say it isn't worth it because we had one step back after 100 forwards. Necc0 fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jan 15, 2013 |
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Murmur Twin posted:I'm fine with the 100 forwards, but your "one step back" is another person's "10 years in prison". On a macro- level we're winning, but to me it doesn't justify glossing over the lives that are being ruined due to the process not taking overnight. Yes I would rather we go back to how it was in the 80s and throw tens of thousands of people in jail for ten years instead, pushing prisons to 400% capacity. This is what we should do because gently caress effort and not everything is perfect right now.
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its happening.gif http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/01/10/pa-senator-introduces-bill-to-legalize-marijuana/
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Xandu posted:If we changed this conversation to doctors rubberstamping requests for oxycodone in exchange for cash (which does happen, although not as often), I'm curious how people would feel about that. Oxycodone is extremely dangerous.
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Relax he's just paranoid from all the weed he's smoking 
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Everytime I click on this loving thread, I furiously scroll through pages of circular arguments to look for something that's actually loving relevant. Thanks for this, hopefully it doesn't end too badly. That's a pretty optimistic quote in the article. I could definitely see them modifying/clarifying the law to give more power to the states, based on the lack of strong outcry from either side in opposition to what's been happening so far. This may be the moment we've been waiting for.
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Warchicken posted:They won't sue, but will they still arrest people that are compliant under state laws? Justice Dept. doesn't arrest people.
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SgtScruffy posted:This is great news, but I'm still pretty hesitant to celebrate. Can we take this to believe that now, as long as dispenseries in MMJ-legal states don't break any of those eight laws, then Obama will stop the various raids, etc? It pretty explicitly states that this is a guidance and can't be used as a legal defense by anyone, so if a prosecutor decides on his own to go after small players that are otherwise obeying the law they can.
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Is the stream still going? It says it starts at 2:30 but not how long it's supposed to run. edit: Nevermind. The 'LIVE WEBCAST' is actually a recording of what just happened.
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Not to mention that once it is legal everyone has to show their papers and run their operations by the books, something the cartels probably won't like.
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California Democrats just added legalization to their platform: http://rt.com/usa/california-democrats-support-marijuana-legalization-950/
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AYC posted:I doubt they'll push for legalization in the legislature. Still very significant because as far as I know this is the first time a full-party has endorsed legalization.
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Cache Cab posted:respect the law and follow the rules. And the law can change. That's the point. I'm not seeing the problem here
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AYC posted:It seems like everyone in this thread supports legalizing weed, so let's try something different to get our craniums pumpin': We've already gone over it in this thread. The biggest issues are a lack of standardized testing & labeling, especially on consumables. Biggest issue is people who have never experienced pot before chomping down on a whole nuclear-bomb brownie, thinking it didn't work because they don't feel anything after 20 minutes, chomping down another, then having a 'bad time'. It's a lot easier to have a mind-bending experience than it is on alcohol because on booze you have a faster uptake + straight liquor is very difficult to drink for beginners.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:There's been some discussion in the Freep thread as to whether Obama's recent championing of vaccination is a deliberate attempt to get fringe Republicans to petulantly come out against immunization, chucking a wedge issue into the R machine between the GOPers with common sense and those who literally oppose anything Obama backs. Fringe theory, but could this be similar, playing up an issue that is likely to publicly divide Republicans? They have no one to blame but themselves for painting themselves into that ideological corner. I mean- how long has the 'Obama comes out in favor of breathing' been a running joke here? Trollbama is best 'bama
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Sure, but that's not what they're doing. They're sending every single taxpayer a check for the equivalent of a super-sized McDonalds meal, mailing out hundreds of thousands of envelopes and pieces of paper. It'd probably be easier to just take it off everyone's filing for next year but what the gently caress do I know?
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HappyHippo posted:I said this upthread but the only way forward I can see is to focus on the unrefined plant-based sources of these drugs (or analogs thereof). Legalizing coca, opium and magic mushrooms seems much more likely than legalizing refined cocaine, heroin and LSD. Mushrooms aren't the base material that makes LSD fyi
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