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Wheresmy5bucks
Feb 10, 2007

So, where is it?

Rip Testes posted:

Why does the Fox News :siren: BIAS ALERT :siren: only feature bias towards Romney?

...Are you suggesting that possibly the :siren: BIAS ALERT :siren: could be biased?

I've been watching this thread, and gonna vent a bit here since I'm one of those progressive socialist communazis forced to listen to Bill O'Reilly and Fox News daily. One of my roommates watches the poo poo religiously, so I have to hear it.

One of the most infuriating things I continually hear is basically spinning the arguments against them against the people using them. One of O'Relly's talking points that makes me annoyed with the sheer stupidity is that the Dems vote and act on 'emotion', and the Repubs act on 'reason'.

No, I didn't typo that. 'Reason' is the party of Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachmann, voting for Romney because black and gay people are scary, the idea that white people aren't the majority anymore is terrifying, and a twisted view of the idea of fair is rich people paying no taxes. Completely reasonable and founded on facts.

Apparently flipping out about equal rights for all citizens, not wanting countless wars, trying to get numbers for tax plans that work, and not wanting people to suffer because they can't afford artificially expensive healthcare makes Lefties vote solely on emotion above all else.

Actually, it does make me emotional, in a gently caress you Bill O'Reilly fashion.

I do think the people that view it tend to have a 'decide first' response to the world. When a question enters the world, they make their decision, and stick with it no matter what evidence to the contrary appears. Fox News is comfort food - it feeds them reassurance that their first thought about the world, that their deepest beliefs are correct. I have had two fairly close people in my life be Fox News drones, so very small sampling size, but they both exhibit these 'decide first' traits and apply them to everything.

I see this in so many ways beyond politics too. This thought-style spills into other parts of their life, and it makes it really hard to discuss ANYTHING with them, because they don't seem to function on the same logic that you do - instead of the facts determining an opinion, the opinion determines the facts.

As an example of how I'm starting to think the mind of the right wing media consumer mind works, I can't really discuss VIDEO GAMES with said roommate anymore. Why? He's convinced video games have been ruined forever since Microsoft entered the hardware market and are out to make a monopoly of the industry, and harsh business practices have destroyed everything, irregardless of Sony or Nintendo using same tactics throughout their business careers. No good is allowed to be said about Microsoft, even their indisputably 'good' additions to the industry, like allowing indie companies to get exposure with the 'Indy Games' program(although I will admit there are flaws there). I'm no console warrior, but it gets frustrating when you might as well be talking in another language at times when talking to these people.

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Wheresmy5bucks
Feb 10, 2007

So, where is it?

BiggerBoat posted:

Read Yahoo! comments sometime. I think he's talking about how those types see a liberal conspiracy in everything, like how Avatar has a leftist environmental agenda or The Muppet Movie was ragging on oil companies. Also, how Michelle Obama's nutrition initiatives are some sort of government mandate on food. poo poo like that.

His Microsoft example was weird though because his objection was based on them being a monopoly, when really, it seems FOX News types love that sort of stuff ("success").

It's basically making a snap judgment and assuming that snap judgment is right no matter what the evidence says. It doesn't matter if it's self-contradictory. IE: The Dems primarying Lieberman in 2006 was a massive betrayal of the party, but the Tea Party doing the same to Dick Luger and countless other Repubs is democracy and something that needs to be done.

The Movie Example would be, seeing the poster and deciding the movie is awesome/awful right there, actually seeing said movie, then holding onto that opinion regardless if the movie is Citizen Kane or Gigli. I really think the Microsoft thing is a console warrior thing taken too far(The Wii has ruined gaming forever too, just not as much as M$). Yes, it is incredibly frustrating.

Back in 2006, Stephen Colbert ran his show off the idea of the word 'Truthiness' - it seems true to me, so it must be, against all logic or evidence.

Wheresmy5bucks
Feb 10, 2007

So, where is it?
A fun bit on Fox News which I'm wrongfully exposed to nightly.

Throughout Brett Baier's show, he played up the scare tactic of "Will Obama go for a 3rd Term?" "Who wants to make it so this inaguration isn't Obama's last?" "The Democrats are seeking to allow Obama to run for a 3rd Term."

In a come back from commercial in literally less than 2 minutes after a night full of drumming up Obama's massive conspiracy to be El Presidente for Life:

Essentially This:
http://www.examiner.com/article/presidential-term-limits-bill-reintroduced-to-repeal-22nd-amendment

Nothing particularly partisan about Obama as much as this guy loving hates Presidential Term Limits.

:ironicat:

Wheresmy5bucks
Feb 10, 2007

So, where is it?
One thing to remember about a lot of 70s/80s hair metal is that there's a crazy amount of machismo and macho posturing involved in it. It tends to attract shitheads. You add in the 'fruitier' aspects that came with the era, and a lot of them get overly defensive, snapping back at them, siding with the Republicans due to the GOP being great at posturing with the gently caress THOSE LIBERAL HIPPIES image.

Mustaine's a pretty good musician and knows his poo poo in that regard, but he's still pretty much a mindless meathead whose attached himself to Alex Jones. Of course, not all aging metalheads are shitheads: Mitt Romney is a Monster. :allears:

Lemmy posted:

I mean the alternative is Mitt Romney. Please, please don't vote for Mitt Romney. gently caress him. Repeal abortion law is the first thing he'll do. loving monster.

Wheresmy5bucks
Feb 10, 2007

So, where is it?

Spacedad posted:

This was posted on facebook by a friend who said "This makes me want to buy more girl scout cookies." :laugh:

It's great because everything they list there as 'bad' is actually great, and why the girl scouts are great.
It's like this thing was written by a Saturday morning cartoon villain who detests all goodness. "EWWW. LOVE, and HUGS. Such DETESTABLE creatures, SHARING and CARING."

K, I'm buying girl scout cookies when they set up shop in front of my grocery store now. My diet can suck it. If they can eat horrible chicken sandwiches to protest homosexuality, I'll eat thin mints to further the gay agenda. I'll play junk food politics too.

But yeah, the Conservative movement in America(and probably elsewhere) has degraded into cartoon villainy for awhile. Boo Gay Soldiers, Yay Letting Sick People die, Harassing people who helped scared children Yay, 47% of the country are horrible moochers who want free stuff.

Their potential presidential candidates wanted to conquer the moon, believed Rapists carried out God's will, and could be compared to Patrick Bateman and Gargamel.

Sharing is just another word for COMMUNISM.

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Wheresmy5bucks
Feb 10, 2007

So, where is it?

Crasscrab posted:

But how can there be tyranny if there's no government? :psyduck:

The same way Obama can be both an Atheist and Muslim at the same time.

Bad + Bad = Really Bad, you guys.

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