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Full Battle Rattle posted:I mean he does have kind of a point. Maybe letting terrorists use twitter as a platform shouldn't be a thing, In spite of it's intelligence value. At the start of this year Twitter announced they had banned roughly 125,000 Twitter accounts tied to ISIS. If anything they should ban more alt-right shitheads to keep parity.
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Gunder posted:Milo comes off as nothing more than a walking, talking ball of bad faith. It seems like he's purely doing what he's doing for attention and money. His entire repertoire seems to be telling young men that it's perfectly acceptable to go around saying racist, sexist, transphobic things in order to make them worship him. It's really unfortunate that he's well known as a free speech advocate, because it puts him in contact with other, more respectable free speech people, who then get dragged down to his level of discourse. Douglas Murray etc. His "Free Speech Advocacy" is just the standard right-wing "you can't censor me" bullshit, as if just because you have the right to free speech it magically means people shouldn't take offense or call you out when you're being a lovely human being that has to punch downwards on minorities while doing your "satire" (seriously, someone once tried to tell me that Milo is a satirist), or just being an outright abusive troll. Nor does it mean a company doesn't have the standing to prevent you from using their services when you violate the terms of using their services. It sucks that so many people easily fall for that bullshit because they can't tell the difference between the Government censoring speech (Turkey being a prominent recent example), and a company telling you "you're banned for being an abusive dick." I really wish people would stop equating the right of free speech with the "right" to be an rear end in a top hat. Not saying you're doing it of course, I'm just frustrated that people honestly think Milo is doing anything in good faith rather than just a bunch of self-serving poo poo to advance his personal brand.
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lynch_69 posted:As far as Milo and his ilk goes, they know it's all a con. All they have to be is just a little more clever than their target audience and they're laughing all the way to the bank. I sincerely doubt he gives two shits about Ghostbusters or ethics in video games or whatever. It's just an easy means of riling up his base and getting those oh so precious clicks. That's what I meant though. It feels almost transparently obvious that Milo's just saying and doing whatever will get him attention and putting out blatant (and hateful) clickbait, yet people latch onto it, even the aforementioned person who told me "oh he's a satirist" who also hates clickbait journalism  EDIT: Like I can get why a lot of immature misogynists and racists will flock to him, I'm just confused why anybody outside that bubble would give him anything other than a derisive snort. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jul 20, 2016 |
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Jul 20, 2016 18:40
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PJOmega posted:With the Ohio State attack RWM is pounding the drums of "terror attack" and the only way to keep our college students safe being to have them carry guns. I thought the right wing was against safe spaces  Seriously though that still remains the dumbest idea outside of having armed guards at every school like we live in a goddamn warzone. "Hey let's have all these teenagers and young adults who are under a lot of social and academic stress just carry firearms. Nothing could possibly go wrong" Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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Nov 28, 2016 23:49
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First thing I hear is "it doesn't cause permanent damage therefore it's not torture". What a crock of poo poo, it's easily capable of causing lasting physical and psychological damage. Just skip past the mumbo jumbo about "we need information and lives are at stake" and waterboard the fucker already  EDIT: Especially because why the gently caress am I watching Stephen Crowder on the vain off-chance that he suffers.
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Dec 22, 2016 02:47
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Wasn't there already a right wing hate machine guy that got waterboarded, not lasting even a minute, and then went "holy loving poo poo balls that is awful I was wrong about EVERYTHING." I don't remember specifically anybody right-wing (except Sean Hannity wimping out and not even trying) but I do know Christopher Hitchens did it and said (paraphrasing from his article on it) "holy poo poo this is torture. gently caress anyone who says it's just "simulating" drowning. Bullshit, I was drowning". Though I don't know what his stance on it was before undergoing that (and only lasting 16 seconds). Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Dec 22, 2016 |
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Dec 22, 2016 02:50
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He'll probably also fudge the numbers of that loving Mug Club or whatever the poo poo it is he need 2,000 of to get waterboarded so that he doesn't actually have to go through with it.
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Dec 22, 2016 02:59
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TildeATH posted:Christopher Hitchens was so right-wing he got rid of his hair because of its socialist tendencies. Him being a rabid athiest confused me, I'll admit  . I am not trying to purposely say he wasn't right wing, I literally didn't realize. Sorry.
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Tender Bender posted:Torture is an international crime. Right wingers want waterboarding to be labeled "not torture" because they want Muslims to be tortured while they can say technically the US did nothing wrong. Yes, it doesn't make sense that they want it to be somehow not that bad and yet also a way to physically and mentally harm someone until you force information out of them. As I mentioned before, in the 20 or so seconds I subjected myself to that nonsense his army buddy or whatever was straight up saying it wasn't torture because torture causes pain and possibly lasting damage, and waterboarding does not...somehow. The hoops the right wing will jump through just to torture someone is ridiculous.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I wish they recreated Red Dragon/Manhunter with Crowder in the chair.
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Dec 22, 2016 22:20
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BarbarianElephant posted:Right wingers would love to criminalize left wing speech. See how angry they get when left wing students protest against fascist speakers on campus. Or how they eagerly want to round up anybody who destroyed property during a political protest (sorry, "riot"), but are perfectly fine with sports fans trashing their own city whenever. Of course, nobody on the right wing would ever cause property damage 
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Apr 3, 2017 03:49
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Sedge and Bee posted:Southern was one of the Rebel people who got let go because she forgot that she wasn't supposed to cross into full ZOG insanity, since her boss is Jewish. She's not the only one who has had this problem. You didn't link it, but I'm assuming you're talking about the Canadian citizen (Omar Kadiq?) that was captured and treated as a terrorist for allegedly killing a US soldier in a firefight, was then tortured and then eventually let go once he got back to Canada? The one conservative friend I had kept saying "he's a murderer and should not be allowed on the street or have all this money" despite the fact that A) he was 15 when said alleged "murder" occurred, B) he was tortured, C) he was a Canadian citizen, and D) they aren't even sure he threw the grenade that killed a US soldier. Utter loving bullshit. Dude served his time and we didn't treat him properly at all if he was an enemy combatant, there is no reason anybody should be acting like this. You mentioned disregard for the basic principals of Canadian Law, could you explain the legal reasons why he got all this money so that if I have to argue about it again I feel better informed?
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Jul 24, 2017 01:34
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Sedge and Bee posted:We didn't lift a finger to repatriate him and left him to rot in defiance of the court. The loving Supreme Court ruled his charter rights were violated. The military tribunal he was sent before was secret and we didn't complain, he was tortured into confessing, and even after he recanted, the US rolled out an anonymous eyewitness who's statements contradicted the facts established to that point. Thank you. I doubt he'll ever bring it up again (he loves to just shitpost a "so what do you think about x" when it's obvious he only just heard about it from some right wing puppet, usually Gavin McInnes, Ben Shapiro, or Stephen Crowder) but this will be good to keep in my back pocket, so to speak. If nothing else, I'll at least feel good that I had a decent counterargument even if he won't listen to it.
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Jul 24, 2017 02:27
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Jurgan posted:A group admits it made mistakes in the past and takes steps to correct them. What hypocrites! Well that and the Democrats of the 1860s aren't the Democrats of today, or even the 1930s.
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quote:He’s not saying the hurricane itself isn’t real, Limbaugh clarifies, but just that he’s looked at the paths and Irma is not going to hit South Florida. Rather, it’s going to turn and go out into the Atlantic.  Go gently caress yourself Rush, you fat, child-raping piece of poo poo. People are going to die because you have probably convinced a non-zero number of people in the storm's path that they'll be fine, and you'll escape retribution for it because you couched it in the cowardly "I'm just asking questions" way. So sick of how he (and the rest of the people following in his footsteps) tries to debase scientific process, method, and results. Al Franken had it 100% right when he said "It seems that Rush Limbaugh's main objective is to punish you for actually knowing anything" Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Sep 7, 2017 |
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Sep 7, 2017 04:46
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BiggerBoat posted:Except there's a ton of Lego vide games too? And my point was leave it to a RWM pundit to try to tie it into some terrible example of liberal ideology run amok. These are the same kind of people that thought Nintendo was being too politically correct for no longer referring to Mario as a Plumber, despite the fact that what Nintendo did was point out "he's had many jobs over many games," instead of just calling him a plumber, a thing he hasn't really done since the arcade Mario Bros.
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Sep 7, 2017 19:53
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Vargatron posted:I'm no meteorologist but from what I understand weather forecasting and modeling is extremely computer intensive and there's just a massive amount of variables to consider in nature. Either the hurricanes misses and they're like "see, science was wrong!" or it kills a bunch of people and it's "somebody should have told us about this!". This is all true in the basic way, however, there's a difference between acknowledging the inexact-ness of meteorology and just outright saying that climate change is fake and this hurricane isn't a problem at all despite overwhelming statistical evidence to the contrary. We're dealing with a group of people (right wing pundits) that are now reaching the point where they're claiming this uptick in powerful hurricanes is because we as a species had the audacity to analyze this stuff and report on climate change. None of their critiques are actually based in reality, and it is going to get people killed.
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Sep 8, 2017 21:52
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Hunt11 posted:If handled correctly that type of doctrine can actually work quite well. British broadcasting media has to follow those rules and it generally ensures decent quality. Britain actually has laws that make it possible to sue someone for making blantantly false statements and passing them off as news, however.
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Sep 9, 2017 03:53
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Fair enough, for some reason I thought the laws in Britain were a bit more strict/functional in regards to libel, but I was misinformed.
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Sep 9, 2017 04:43
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Crabtree posted:In some senses. On one hand, he's a ultra rich white nut job that dresses up at night to beat the poo poo out of the mentally insane and poor people of Gotham. On the other hand, he's the most nonlethal part of Gotham law enforcement ever as he hates guns and hates any sort of gun violence. It also depends on who's writing Batman since he's clashed with amoral corporate types before (Batman: TAS did this a fair bit, including an episode where he goes after 3 rich trust-fund assholes who are committing violent armed robbery for the fun of it) and it's been shown on occasion that a lot of lower-level criminals/henchmen get help through the Wayne Foundation to get their lives back on track and get decent jobs that don't involve felonies. It's more the incurably insane like the Joker that are always going to exist as a constant in that universe for Batman to fight (because they need to sell comics). Plus there's Batman Beyond which, as befitting a cyberpunk future, has corrupt executives coming from everywhere.
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Sep 17, 2017 00:21
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What is this loving debate supposed to be? Stefan Molyneux: I think abortion is bad Stephen Crowder: I agree! Seriously what is the point of this other than a desperate play for attention.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:42
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BiggerBoat posted:I've been wondering this myself because god drat is RWM ever running with 24/7 Weinstein. Rush was saying the NYT had the story in 2004 and must have malicious minded reasons for releasing it NOW. I'd never even loving heard of Harvey Weinstein to be honest but now that the right obviously has their talking points I sure do. It's not that odd. It's basically the right wing playbook 101. Things are going bad for the GOP right now on all levels. They need a distraction. Attempting to tie a notorious hollywood rapist with the former president and a perennial presidential candidate based on the fact he donated money (and now turning it into "what did Obama know and when did he know it") is how they can distract from things like Trump being a notorious rapist, an incompetent loon, and a maniac. Sad thing is it totally works still because people haven't learned anything in the last 20+ years of right wing messaging. I feel like Al Franken has devoted over 50% of his book space to this tactic over 3 books. This is not to suggest, of course, that Weinstein didn't do anything wrong or that it's not bad in hindsight that Democrats took money from someone this terrible, but the problem is that it's designed to continue to depress Democrats and anybody else even remotely center-left from voting because "both sides are the same" Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 17:10
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BiggerBoat posted:So there are no GOP donors over the years that have been caught doing shady poo poo? Obviously not. The problem however, is as follows: 1. The GOP doesn't really care and neither do their voters because "haha liberals mad". Again, Donald Trump is president, after all. 2. The GOP is fully aware anybody not on their team possesses a conscience and morals and thus seek to make them question whether it's moral to vote for members of a political party that takes money from wall street/rapists/bankers etc. 3. Nothing any Democrat says will placate the people who are angry at them for accepting money from Harvey Weinstein. The response will be interpreted as too late, not authentic enough, etc. Because the Democrats by default have to represent everyone who is not driving off the crazy fascist cliff, any sort of rift in ideology or disunity is a net benefit for the GOP.
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Oct 11, 2017 17:38
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Like there's definitely an argument you could make that "well if there were allegations for 20+ years then clearly somebody knew something", but that's the problem. Rumors and Allegations are just that, and given that even Terry Crewes can't name who groped him at a party, it's obvious that money and influence stretch far and wide in terms of keeping this stuff quiet. There's a reason it took this long for all of this to come out. You don't want to get this poo poo wrong. Of course it's also lovely that we tread so lightly against the rich when they commit sexual assault but the average person on the street is immediately guilty in the court of public opinion, but that's an aside.
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Jurgan posted:Say what? There are lots of cases of normal people being accused of rape, and very quickly there's a discussion of "what was she wearing/had she been drinking/she was a slut anyway." That's 100% accurate and whatever point I was trying to make came out bad. I was in no way trying to downplay victim blaming. I have this...I guess weird hangup when it comes to felony convictions/the court of public opinion. If someone is arrested and convicted of a felony, their life is pretty much hosed unless they happen to be well-connected. I was saying that in the idea that, if an average person was accused of what Weinstein did, people in their community might immediately assume they were guilty regardless of whether they did it or not. This would then ruin their life through ostracization and assumptions. Karl Rove at one point did this to a judge in...Alabama I think. He implied the guy was a pedophile, using his work with youth outreach as an implication he was just using it to get close to kids. The judge didn't do that, and he won his re-election, but he retired afterwards because he didn't want to deal with that kind of mudslinging again. At the same time I did myopically forget that we also victim-blame a lot when it comes to rape and as such my comment came out really short-sighted. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Does Todd not realize that this would be a net positive? Nobody wants bad caramel corn. They want Thin Mints! Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 21:32
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Jurgan posted:This is about transpeople, right? Not "girls?" The Boy Scouts are straight up allowing Girls to join and become Eagle Scouts. No Homosexuals or Aetheists (or Gay Aetheists) still. source
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Oct 11, 2017 21:56
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Cythereal posted:They allowed gay people in last year, IIRC. Huh, so they did. That's what I get for not paying attention. I guess that makes this a little less strange to me than initially thought. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Oct 11, 2017 22:08
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BiggerBoat posted:All I know is this guy I never heard of until 3 days ago is a HUGE player in Democratic politics and we should all care. Weinstein is loving being mentioned on every AM talk show just constantly. It's really loving weird to me. It feels a lot like how Trump wouldn't shut up about Sidney Blumenthal and I kept thinking "who the gently caress is that, and why should I care"
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Oct 11, 2017 23:51
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Russia thread already covered this and not only was that article written by the former EIC of the Washington Times (i.e. the crazy Moonie paper), but it was a case that was closed two years ago and isn't even really that damning to Clinton other than "because Clinton Foundation somehow". It's even written kind of weasely to make it look worse than it is to Clinton, rather than the companies that were engaging in bribes to other companies and interests; a lot of Russian bribes being thrown at corporations and police, for example.
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Oct 18, 2017 06:36
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WampaLord posted:I went to a diner the other day and Fox News was on the TV (yes, this was in FL) and when I went up to pay one of the waitresses saw something on there that mentioned Hillary and started going off about how she's actually a witch and a lesbian and a baby killer and etc. Having better mental healthcare would be a good start. Finally realizing that not every opinion is equally valid and equally deserving of attention is another. The latter is harder of course
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Oct 18, 2017 16:32
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BarbarianElephant posted:Not everyone with odd opinions is diagnosable as mentally ill. Just about everyone in Nazi Germany believed in absurd things about Jewish people, because they'd been told them all their lives. Yes, however a nonzero of people who start believing in these ridiculous conspiracy theories are doing so because of some level of emotional or mental trauma that, because of the stigmatization of mental heathcare in this country, they refuse to talk to people about it. I have a friend who suffered a life-threatening incident several years ago and as a result became very steeped in poo poo like Chemtrails, 9/11 Truthism, ridiculous poo poo Alex Jones said, etc. It took him about 5 years to realize that these beliefs in Chemtrails and other conspiracy theories were directly tied to his unresolved issues over nearly dying. If he'd seen a therapist or someone else he could've talked this stuff out with, it might not have taken as long. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but it applies to enough people.
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Keeshhound posted:Apparantly they're trying to spin Weinstein as an example of why the MSM can't be trusted and needs to be done away with. Funnily enough they didn't say the same thing about Roger Ailes 
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KickerOfMice had a good post about this in the Trump thread, which I'm crossposting here:KickerOfMice posted:The line that everyone is mostly running with in this story is "Hillary Clinton gave away 20% of the United State's uranium to Russia," in a shady backroom, possibly treasonous deal. So basically it sounds like a combination of this odd merger and that old chestnut of how we just handed Uranium to the Russians...by which is meant we handed Uranium confiscated from the Georgians over as evidence to the Russians for forensic testing. Also because the Clinton Foundation comes up naturally this must be an amazing "follow the money" trail of giving up a large portion of our uranium to the Russians who I guess are bad now to the Right because Hillary did a thing (even though she didn't)? Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Oct 20, 2017 17:54
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Jurgan posted:No joke, someone blamed this on Wolfenstein, because it planted the idea of other people being Nazis in the father's head. As we all know, Nazis never existed until 2017, due to the fact there are no war memorials to Nazi war heroes so everyone forgot what World War II was about.
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Love that whoever is on Crowder's side (in the replies to this) is backpedaling to "no, no, it's the Trending tab not the recommendations tab that he's talking about" as if anyone ever looks at the trending tab ever. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Oct 27, 2017 01:14
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STAC Goat posted:I mean, i'm sure his reaction to "those recommendations were catered to your views" was just "No! You're lying!" so its not like he'll learn his lesson or anything. Again right now the prevailing "explanation" was that he was talking about the Trending tab not the Recommended tab
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Oct 27, 2017 02:27
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nine-gear crow posted:Uh... this dumb fucker is aware that YouTube offers a "Not Interested" option on videos and topics that show up on your YT home page, right? Like literally all you have to do is click a button, and *boop* the bad videos are gone and YouTube learns to maybe not recommend them to you any more. It's what I do whenever YouTube tries to hock the output of the roiling horde of alt-right lunatics on me after I watch the odd video or two posted in the YouTube Intellectual Mock Thread out of morbid curiosity. It's not enough that he doesn't see it, he doesn't want anyone else to either. Well that and he's an incompetent nitwit or possible closeted gay man who doesn't know how the Internet works despite basing his entire existence around making a living off of it.
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nine-gear crow posted:He's also starting to write books and short stories now too. One of the stories in his short fiction collection was a vore fetish story where the message was "global warming isn't real because tiny shrunken scientists are delicious." Was the homoerotic patriot fiction market too competitive for him?
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Manuel Calavera posted:I know we're on O'Keefe, but it came up on twitter. Shapiro is pretty garbage and usually uses plausible deniability to hide his awfulness, like when the Daily Wire put up that animation or whatever about how Columbus was actually good for Native Americans and everyone called them out on it he said "I didn't approve that" (despite being the founder and EIC).
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