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deptstoremook posted:I get real tired of hearing people complain, because the American right has one of the most effective propaganda/rhetorical machines in recent history and the left seems content in their discontent. If the Left played by the same rules, it might rock the boat too hard. Think about it: one side uses mostly half-truths to sum up their arguments while the other plays a damage-control/defensive game. For example: all the examples of right wing voter fraud go by without a peep on rightwing radio/tv news, but suddenly it's a problem because immigrants. The right relies on people who are out of touch, stuck in the past, whatever. Conservatism historically has this problem because it is so frequently anachronism. If the left and right both adopted the same tactics of "we'll make these facts true later" the media machine would collapse and profits would plummet. Leftwing media makes their money steadily by promoting slow change, while the right is reactionary. It fits in with our rigged political system nicely, since both sides are (conveniently) diametrically opposed on almost every issue.
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Oct 18, 2012 17:09
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SpaceMost posted:I think the Left could deploy similar tactics without resorting to conscious lies and half-truths. One thing the right wing media seems to do is effectively use language that makes an issue seem immediate and personal, or use wording that appeals to typically conservative -isms like nationalism or Christianism. It also breaks concepts down into easily digestible soundbytes and ideas that Joe Sixpack can understand and regurgitate. And it does all this aggressively and with confidence. I disagree. It's easier to pitch to Joe Six-Pack and below because they don't mine for information and generally get their news from a limited number of sources (which are usually mainstream). To make an issue palatable you have to simplify it into a black and white, right vs. wrong struggle. The Left often tries to do this by saying that humans are humans and deserve human rights, but the right merely deflects this with a "media bias" here and a "gay agenda" there and pretty soon every coherent argument is swallowed in uproar. Neither side is trustworthy now, so if the Left adopted a method too close to what the Right does, it would sound too similar and nobody would know who to listen to. At least that's my take. Not saying it can't be done, but I think there's a reason it hasn't.
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Oct 18, 2012 17:49
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FlamingLiberal posted:Olbermann's not on TV. I would say probably Maddow or Chris Hayes. Bill Moyers has more integrity than any of them. Even Faux is scared of him.
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Oct 18, 2012 18:21
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