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Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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As someone who teaches history in a state that's passed one of these "anti-CRT" bills, I wish I could be as blasé as a lot of the posters in this thread.

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Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Froghammer posted:

I mean, yeah, the upshot of anti-CRT bills is children being taught incorrect or even backwards ideas about how racism functions and continues to function and carrying those ideas into adulthood, which can potentially harm people suffering under systems of institutionalized oppression. Which is potentially very bad. But it's still, like, potential harm ten or twenty years down the line as opposed to, say, trade policy that directly dictates whether or not you can afford to eat.

It's a cultural issue, which is the way the GOP likes it because arguing about it until ad infinitum lets them quietly gently caress the working class to death

It effects my ability to do my job, so I don't really view it as an "x number of years down the road" issue.

I'm fortunate, honestly, in that I teach at the college level, and the response of the colleges and universities here has basically been a recognition of the fact that sooner or later, somebody's going to bring suit because their feelings got bruised, and it'll become a matter of case law. And even the REALLY egregious poo poo like what DeSantis is pulling in Florida probably won't stand up in court.

But the real harm of these laws will be the chilling effect they will have of public k-12 education, because as our resident public ed goons can attest, all it takes for school districts to become culture war zones is one or two chuds on the board.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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A generation of people who can defy the laws of physics?

I'm here for it.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Wait, are we returning to good ol' fashioned anti-italian racism like the founders intended and done screeching about China?

We can fear the swarthy Mediterranean AND the yellow peril at the same time. It's called multi tasking.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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JohnClark posted:

I do really like that Conor Friedersdorf has become an object of ridicule for so many. There are so many "centrist" assholes like him out there, but for some reason he gets under my skin more than most.
https://twitter.com/Ugarles/status/1429475307526971405

Conor Friedersdorf is a big Freeze Peach advocate, which for him means that college students are the real danger in society.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Ah, but what genre?

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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From my vantage point in a brick red state, it's not really material conditions driving people to the right. The people in truly desperate material conditions don't vote and never have. No, it's a desperate, enraged, terrified reaction against being told what to do (or just feeling like they're being told what to do) by people who aren't "us".

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Nenonen posted:

drat, don't they have sick leaves in the border patrol??

They died WITH the border patrol, not OF it.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Ah, the Rose Mary Woods defense, I see. A classic maneuver.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Enver Zogha posted:

Meanwhile in my experiences I've seen conservatives claim the reason countries like Sweden and Japan can afford to have such social safety nets is because of how "homogeneous" their populations are. Which allows for convenient segueing into far-right rhetoric of "hey white people we could totally have better health care if only the Jews didn't flood our cities with the brown hordes."

I think it's an indication that simply exalting the existing US health care system is bringing diminishing returns, so excuses have to be made as to why the system can't be replaced. Just going "socialized medicine AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" isn't cutting it.

This also reminds me how during the 2000s it was a regular theme among conservatives that Scandinavian countries were "socialist" and therefore bad. Lots of liberals in turn began to be like "oh yeah well socialism sounds pretty cool in that case, hooray better health care!" In response, conservatives changed their messaging to "haha silly liberals, Scandinavian countries aren't socialist, what could possibly make you think that? In fact, they have freer markets than our own!"

That's just them admitting they wouldn't mind a better social safety net, but they just can't bear to share it with Black and brown people.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Astrofig posted:

Soooo bye-bye abortion rights apparently. Any guesses what they're gonna axe next? Gay marriage? Women's voting rights? Desegregation?

The first two, definitely, but they've learned they don't need legally enforced segregation anymore when they can create it via other, more subtle means.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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We also make it insanely difficult to import formula too, even from countries with safety standards that meet/exceed our own.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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:eng101: You have Georgia because the British government wanted a buffer zone between the Carolinas and Spanish Florida, one that was originally intended to allow neither guns or slavery.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Maher's also one of those edgelord atheist types who's made it clear that Islamophobia is fine, actually, because religion is dumb. :smuggo:

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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FlamingLiberal posted:

They are probably secretly horny for him but can’t admit it

It wouldn’t be the first time that happened

It's all about their boners.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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I think the real shocker here is Alex Jones has a personal trainer.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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I'm not familiar with the video in question, but I'd bet it was Ty Seidule.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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This just in: Art was never about personal expression before 1960.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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FilthyImp posted:

No such thing as gender affirming care, says the woman with manicured eyebrows, makeup, and blond hilights.

The only moral gender presentation is my gender presentation.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Panfilo posted:

Has there been any good podcasts studying the correlation between trying to undermine public school systems/teachers unions and fear mongering about teachers molesting kids? Because I've seen an awful lot of these types of posts the past few years.
https://twitter.com/TRHLofficial/status/1606757254430134274?t=P8upOPXFqplLriUzJs-TCA&s=19

Try the "School Wars" episode of Know Your Enemy.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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I think you can genuinely believe you are in something (like hunting witches) for right and righteous reasons without consciously realizing you are also in it for the money and prestige. Because you are right, and all these people taking you seriously just proves it, right?

And whoops, wouldn't you know, the more witches you find, the more witches there are! That's when the grifters show up, imo. The true believers provide the template and the vocabulary, and the grifters can start finding witches too.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Plus charter schools can kick out any student for any reason, while public schools are legally mandated to provide education. So public schools get overwhelmed with students with disciplinary problems, learning and developmental disorders, and yes, un/underinvolved parents (for whatever reason). Then it's "drat, public school's the worst, look at all the losers who go there" and parents get nudged towards the charter schools, because what kind of monster doesn't want their kids going to A Good School(tm)?

Rinse, repeat, profit.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Ambitious Spider posted:

Saw a girl on a dating app who was like I won’t date if you don’t vaccinate-except Covid of course. Let’s go Brandon.

Which like:…
:psyduck:

Getting vaccinated against Covid means you believe it to be a real thing, a serious threat to your health and the health of others. The conservative line born in mid-2020 was that it's not, it's no big deal, so why waste your time worrying about it and taking preventive measures? That's why all those right-wing pundits sowing FUD about vaccination were (and still are) so cagey about their own vaccination status. To be vaccinated is to take it seriously, and why would you do that when it's nothing to worry about?

(Also, it may be a Chinese bio-weapon unleashed on the world by Anthony Fauci for reasons, but that's neither here nor there)

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Old Kentucky Shark posted:

I wish more of these kind of assholes like Ben would write fiction novels rather than nonfiction because it’s 1000 times more illustrative of their internal mental states than them literally telling you what they think is.

I cannot express enough how every one of Ben Shapiro’s most deeply felt insecurities is scrawled all over every page of that novel and it’s protagonist, General Brett Hawthorne, “...a bear of a man, six three in his bare feet and two hundred fifteen pounds in his underwear, with a graying blond crew cut and a face carved of granite.”

God that reads like it was typed with one hand.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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BiggerBoat posted:

Yeah but what about our national anthem?

She didn't kneel, so it's fine. The goal posts are in constant motion.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Mechanical Ape posted:

I’m wondering how a person is supposed to “refuse to comply” with not being homeless.

People refuse shelter all the time, usually for one of two reasons. Either A) the local shelter situation is real bad (this is depressingly common) and they'd rather take their chances on the street, or B) they are suffering from profound mental illness.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Professor Beetus posted:

it's important to note that A is often because shelters, often run by religious orgs, can have draconian requirements for being allowed to stay. Also homeless people do have things and can't always just leave them behind even to get into a shelter. pets too, and there's very limited options for couples and families.

Yep. High barrier shelters are a huge problem. There's also simple issues of safety. Nobody wants to stay at a shelter where they may get robbed or assaulted.

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:

Sounds like Fox and Dominion reached a settlement (which booooooo)

Triskelli posted:

Fuckin' weaaaaak

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Do you want the moustache on or off, America?

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Hey, I'm pretty sure I have those pants too, Tucker! Old Navy Rockstar Super Skinnies, right?

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Mooseontheloose posted:

A ReHistory thread where we talk about historic revisionism like the Lost Cause or West Germans.

A Lost Cause thread would both be extremely my jam and bad for my blood pressure.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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je1 healthcare posted:

It doesn't, the white population has only grown everywhere over the past several decades. Their definition of "white genocide" is just interracial marriage.

And more specifically, white women marrying/having kids with non-white men.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Ryan Walters is such an unfathomable piece of poo poo.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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The Islamic Shock posted:

That Last Week Tonight had me remembering how abortion bans make it so women can't have one for a stillbirth, then it had me wondering if the laws are made that way either out of just not caring about nuance or if it's straight-up to punish women for having sex since aborting a dead baby obviously doesn't do poo poo to protect babies. Then I remembered who writes these laws so now I'm wondering, how do we make them admit it's the latter? Seems the usual responses are a mix of "oh yeah that's a good point I'll totally look into that" and "well a miracle could happen to carry the baby to term, yes I am saying our laws need to be written in ways that account for divine intervention but only in this very specific case for some reason".

Edit: why would God need to have laws written around His hypothetical desire to do specific miracles anyway, if God wants a stillborn child to come to term and will use a miracle to make it happen ain't poo poo the legal status of abortion or anything else can do to stop it

They need to believe that pregnancy is a miraculous event that always results in a perfect pink baby (instead of the messy, frequently problem filled medical condition it is) because it is central to their conception of womanhood. Any woman who does not desire pregnancy, at any point, for any reason, is unnatural and must be punished for her bad gender performance. And any woman whose pregnancy goes wrong must have caused it in some way, because remember, pregnancy is a miracle, not a medical condition, and they would rather force a woman to go septic carrying a dead fetus than acknowledge reality.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Hunt11 posted:

Still have no idea why they committed so hard to them.

Miller's got real good dirt on the moneymen? :shrug:

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Xand_Man posted:

coward

never back down from your OTP

Superb avatar/post combo

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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...! posted:

Trump just attacked Vivek and called him "not MAGA." Bromance... OVER

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1746360780436427244?s=20

:sad:

I mean, we all knew that was coming, right?

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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DeadlyMuffin posted:

What makes anyone prejudiced? The way I see it, the same things make an LGBT person, African American person, or some other minority group member prejudiced.

In general I think that being a member of a minority group that experiences prejudice makes people less likely to be prejudiced themselves, but it's hardly universal.

On the LGBT side, I've encountered people who are *just* accepting enough to accept themselves but oppose anything "more" than that.

There's a certain subset of gay white men who really, really want to have access to the privileges of white masculinity, without having their sexuality count against them, so to speak.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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Star Man posted:

Anti-Catholic sentiment in America is older than the United States

And modern Islamophobia basically uses the exact same playbook as 19th century anti-Catholic prejudice. They're insular, they can't/won't ever assimilate, they have their own system of laws and hierarchy, they're backward and barbaric, they have too many kids, etc, etc.

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Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

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It's a problem for a lot of left-ish male journalists who came up in the early aughts. They were right about one thing - the horror show of the American imperial war machine and the post-9/11 surveillance state it enabled - but then when people called them out for having lovely opinions about things like race and gender, they ran screaming into the arms of the right wing where they could keep talking about the Bell Curve.

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