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Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Speaking of which, my girlfriend's parents complain about "being told what to think" after watching Rachel Maddow on MSNBC for a few minutes, then switched to O'Reilly of all things. O'Reilly, running a segment on how the recent anti-Romney women's rights ads are actually sexist because they try to reduce women to single issue voters and actually there are no gender issues because these two post-menopausal rich white blonde women say so, you see?

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Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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To further comment on Jindal chat, I don't know how he managed it, but he's even got many LA republicans against him for his yearly cuts to anything and everything his pen can reach. Our charity hospital system has been eviscerated and sold so brutally even the rapture believing, communist fearing racist health care folks I work with hate him.
Just today I read that he had line item vetoed developmentally disabled assistance, needy family assistance, arts grants and so on from next year's budget citing the "lack of lawmakers accounting for unexpected Medicaid cost increases". Increases he caused by screwing the system sideways and refusing the PPACA medicaid expansion. Jindal has become a rabid, reality denying "starve the beast" republican so blatantly he can't even rely on Louisiana prejudices to cover him.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Warchicken posted:

The university I got my bachelor's and master's degree has been utterly gutted and brought down to the very worst possible level by jindal's budget cuts. Other universities in the states have been utterly devastated as well. I do not know one single person in Louisiana who likes Bobby Jindal. Literally not a single one, anywhere. Not even republicans. I really, really do not understand how he is in office.

I know people personally who do, and agree with what he does. These people use Breitbart.com as a news source and I haven't been able to convince them to stop. They continued to support the private school voucher program, even though it was doled out to private schools without any curriculum standard applied with money reappropriated out of the very fund whose sole purpose was to help schools in low income areas exist. Louisiana has come to hate Jindal a few years too late, and even now there are still the wholly delusional who support him on ideology alone. My university was gutted down to the bones too, and just this past year I participated in a sort mission with other pharmacy school organizations to try and convince the LA legislature to stop cutting our budget even further (it didn't work).

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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greatn posted:

What about Loisiana Monroe? Without Louisiana Monroe where will crappy SEC teams get their one nonconference win?

As the only state pharmacy school, no, we aren't any better off at all. We lost our entire undergrad chemistry degree and nearly half the biology faculty. The only reason the band exists is because the director of bands was the only qualified guy around to take over the VAPA responsibilities and he's a scary man.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Sephyr posted:

I'm curious about the documentary mentioned in this Salon article, about the director's father being turned from amiable dad to confrontational conservative spitfire by a long driving commute and exposure to talk radio. It seems to be a depressingly common thing.


http://www.salon.com/2013/10/11/fox_news_and_talk_radio_brainwashed_my_dad_partner/

I've been seeing something like that happening with my own father here in Brazil, on a lighter scale. Minor issues that he never cared about suddenly becoming life-or-death things, rewarding offensiveness as a virtue (against the 'right' targets, of course), tentative/probing support for military coups to 'put and end to this mess'... to the direct degree of his exposure to bombastic media.

Oh man, this is too close to my own dad to be comfortable. When I was tiny in the early 90's he used to love Carl Sagan and we watched Monty Python programs together (Meaning of Life and Life of Brian included, not just the Holy Grail). 20 years later he's an acerbic, sexist, racist, aggressive "libertarian" who can't keep his political thoughts to himself in any conversation whatsoever. He's called me the typical communist-marxist-socialist word salad every time I try to point something out about an opinion he repeated from Rush. He's gotten so bad that my grandparents, who have strong political opinions of their own, will try to disallow political talk at all at family gatherings. "Britain used to be a great country until they started socialist healthcare that never works! Europe is a socialist hellhole that can't ever do anything right! Evolution is just a theory! Nuke Iraq until it's a flat plain of glass!" The most recent time I lost my composure with him was when my sister visited from California for a couple of weeks. She brought up crime problems in her apartment complex and the first thing dad said was "Lots of Mexicans there?". Ugh. Now he's fallen into some sort of hyper credulity to any of the side businesses that live commensally with right-wing talk programs like gold-buying, pseudo-science "health" products, and magazines that advertise life prolonging snake oil. He's been an RN for over 20 years and still falls for this crap.

I can understand how he's been made vulnerable to this sort of thing; home life is stressful, we live in Louisiana, finances can be rough, still has the final of four kids at home, came of age during the Reagan Era,etc., but he's made visiting home almost unbearable. The worst part is that he's completely irrational about the whole thing; if anything so much as appears remotely contradictory to something he heard or read from a "friendly" news source like Fox News or AR-15.com it's immediately dismissed as evil, literal communist propaganda. I have no idea what to do about it but I'm sure he'd refuse to watch this documentary too. I imagine this is similar to what people with family members suffering from worsening alzheimer's must feel like.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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EDIT: Double post?

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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I almost broke him of the Rush habit by cornering him in an argument about something involved with the PPACA he heard from Rush and not letting him change the goalposts about it. He claimed something like "I haven't listened to Rush in 2 years!". My next visit home we all rode out to together for a movie or some such and he turned his truck radio to Rush right away. Living 300 miles away makes it hard to deprogram him.

EDIT: I honestly don't know how self aware he is about this. It's hard to gauge because many of our closer family members are more sympathetic (or worse) to what he says because of Louisiana's fine political and educational traditions, so the mixed feedback and ostracism of the more "liberal" people he knows might even be encouraging. This cult-like devotion to conservatism, whatever it may be at the time, and addiction to the self-righteous indignation and hate it encourages is exhausting and depressing to me though. The two-minutes hate has been adapted to Jerry-Springer style programming and stretched out to 24 hours so that its viewers never have to self reflect and consider what they've heard.

Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Oct 12, 2013

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:


The best answer to Obamacare critics is to just say "yes, it's flawed, that's why I support Medicare for All. Just let everyone who wants it sign up for Medicare." Which is basically saying "we need a public option" in a way nobody can refute because nobody wants to be against Medicare.

This is a good idea until you run into people who notice the ideological inconsistency within themselves and decide, at that moment, that they are against the existence of Medicare too. Logic is already gone long before this so it isn't much of a leap for your more hardened, Rush listening southern conservatives.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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kik2dagroin posted:

I missed most of Rush's broadcast yesterday because of work 'n such but I managed to grab a great 6 minute rant. He starts off raging against Obama for not signing up for the legislation with his own name on it, segues in to how magnanimous the Tea Party and all its financial backers are, rages about how the media paints Republicans as wanting to shut down the government, white knights Ted Cruz, then dogwhistles in to how the Republicans are paralyzed in their critique of Obama because of his race :yum:

Ha, wow. Just say the opposite of reality and get away with it because your listeners will never check you. What an easy job.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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BiggerBoat posted:

Everyone I know who listens to FOX News that champions their accuracy always cites their ratings as proof that they're "better".

A lot of their pundits and hosts do the same, which is stupid and a lot like saying that McDonalds is the "best" restaurant, that Lady Gaga is "better" than Hendrix because she sells more records or that "Transformers" is a "better" movie than something like "No Country for Old Men" because it did better at the box office.

In another conversation, these people are also usually the ones to complain that Justin Beiber or Starbucks or whatever they hate at the moment isn't good because it's popular. They have to feel like the privileged few who know better while everyone else is ignorant and decadent. Except when their preferred news source uses popularity as a metric for trustworthiness of course.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Koalas March posted:

Ask and you shall receive. And now my notifications are filled with white people telling me there's nothing wrong with black face.



poo poo I'm on my phone. How do I make that a thumbnail?

So he's saying there's a historical precedent in white men in blackface harassing businesses with "whites only" signs to prove how unruly and terrible black people really are? Because that's what I'm reading from that. Nice argument from his sycophant there too. "It's not wrong because I say it is. No introspection needed."

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Two weeks ago, in Monroe, La, an idiot driving a truck with a huge confederate flag on it claimed he was denied service at a Sonic, but then saved a black child from drowning and therefore not racist, heritage not hate. Duck Dynasty town fell all over themselves declaring Sonic to be a communist, progressive liberal den of hypocrites(poor blacks) and that this man was a hero.


Today, Sonic released the security tape of his encounter. If you said to yourself, "man, that sounds like STDH", you were correct.

http://www.knoe.com/home/headlines/Sonic-release-pictures-of-man-allegedly-being-denied-service-319416051.html?device=phone&c=y

Edit: When our hero was contacted about this, his phone was disconnected. He previously stated, with his lawyer, that he sticks by his story and that it has gotten "out of hand". What did you think Sonic was going to do, not have a camera? Idiot.

Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jul 29, 2015

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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I pointed out to people on Facebook that it was edited, gave links showing it was edited, and they still claimed it didn't look edited. You could tell them the drat sky was blue and they'd disagree if the current right wing outrage of the week was "Shocking Expose! Liberal Murder Abortions Turn Sky Red!". People become profoundly stupid when their personally held opinions and prejudices get challenged.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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I remember how the last time Zimmerman commited murder went. He acted like a wee helpless babe in court and had his attorney argue he was so pathetic and weak he ~needed~ a gun to shoot people or he would just die from his insufficient will. Zimmerman is the platonic form of the fearful man child.

Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Aug 27, 2015

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Every other response is a callout over his son killing a dog. He didn't think at all over that post. My favorite though is "But would you trust your teenage daughter with Josh Duggar?"

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Armani posted:

Jesus wept. :(

I too derive my personal philosophy from Men in Black quotes.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Maybe the MiB movie was an experiment in memetic conditioning in popular media hiding in plain sight? :ohdear:

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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I liked Walton and Johnson when I was a child and didn't quite grasp that the play acting voices were idiot caricatures. One of the last things I heard them argue before leaving for college was that $4.00/gallon gas was no big deal, it wasn't any more expensive than milk, and that anyone complaining was a liberal whiner that wanted to blame everything on Bush.

When I came back they were complaining about how high gas had gotten under Obama, and had and daily "Taser Report" segment about "humorous" uses of a taser by LEOs that usually ended in someone seriously hurt. They deserved it, you see, so it was funny. I haven't listened to them since in embarrassment.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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One of the Gibbis posters made a long con character with a totally normal extensive knowledge of Nordic runes, prepped knowledge and Hindu swastikas that they believed wholeheartedly all the way down to his posts about black helicopters coming for him. Fake thug stereotypes, Jesus quotes getting banned, poorly disguised Hitler quotes getting dozens of likes, etc.

Gbs had direct access to an unguarded Internet version of the Malheur occupation and it was hilarious.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Help me out here; I must be misunderstanding the imagery. Is he saying that anime is driving him to suicide?

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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wilderthanmild posted:

What did the Black Panthers even do? Stand in the general vicinity of a polling area while being black?

As I recall, at least one of them was a registered poll worker whose job was to be there. So you're right.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Ah jeez, our band frontman is freaking out because we're playing in Little Rock tonight and all his conservative BLM "watchdogs" are claiming Arkansas is going to be attacked while we're there on the "Day of Rage".

Why can't our singer be a normal flamboyant hippie instead of a conspiracy minded flamboyant hippie. :negative: Last month it was chemtrails.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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I just Snopes'd it for them and they're still calling the PD for details. I was hoping we'd be smarter than this.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Honestly, most Americans don't care about their party affiliation either. You just see "registered Democrat" often in RMW because it tells the audience the next target is definitely on the other side and subscribes to everything they hate. It's basically a slur.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Mantis42 posted:

Giving Obama a fake foreign name to make him sound scary seems pretty redundant given that he's already named Barack Hussein Obama.

They wore it out and it wasn't like Obama was (showing) whether it affected him at all so they probably felt like they needed a new slur.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Ah Christ, I get home for Christmas and dad is reading the Trump Prophesies. Good luck to all you goons with chuddish family members and Happy Holidays. May they all get drunk enough as to be bearable.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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It may be my dumb eyes but those whites in the photo look too bright, like the photo didn't have a good white balance or was even photoshopped.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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I know we've been over this, and it's because Schumer is actually mentally ill and houses the platonic form of imaginary, intelligent but uninformed swing voters in his head, but what kind of idiot slapshit brain sickness makes him believe in any capacity that after 8 years of demonstrating open contempt of Obama that there were Republican voters willing to switch?

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Weren't they arguing just days ago that Trump denounced Duke and didn't know anything about him?

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Corsair Pool Boy posted:

Are you thinking of the interview in 2016 where he refused to denounce David Duke because Trump claimed he had no idea who he was and would have to look into it?

That's it. It must have been brought up again for some reason somewhere in another discussion.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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OneEightHundred posted:


I want new terms to correspond to "factoid," like "happenoid" (for bullshit isolated incidents inflated into national news stories) and "scandaloid" (for bullshit controversies over things that are completely routine).

Alarmyloid plaques. Proleions? There's a brain disease joke to be made there somewhere.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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I used to laugh at the Bee here and there as an ex-Catholic when an old professor deep in the Calvinist scene would share it. They recently had a fight with Snopes after they had checked out a Bee story, ol Prof sided with the Bee and things got real sad real fast.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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She's trying to deflect to an argument she's more comfortable with having by claiming she's not a homophobe. It has nothing to do with wage growth and she knows that, somewhere, but it's the same programming over and over and over and over. They see something they disagree with and the entire brainsick talking point soup they've accumulated from years of RWM watching, primed by the constant aggrieved frustration from the talking heads, comes spewing out in an anti-thought flack. I tried to talk to my dad about how lovely the pharmacy job market is right now and how it's impossible to get a job unless you have ten years experience as a manager or completed a specialty PGY2 residency and everywhere is swamped because the schools never slowed down, and all he could say was that I obviously don't have a job because I'm white, hiring is discriminatory against white people and his hospital's pharmacy looks like a Coca Cola commercial. It's thought terminating hate all the way down.

You have to nail them to the wall on the initial point, over and over and over and over again because they cannot think in a straight line for more than a soundbite's time. That's the programming. They aren't used to putting critical thought to things. If they go critical crazy all you can do is just mock them and block them because it won't end.

EDIT: This was in the emergency room checking up on HIS dad, my grandpa, who is well above the usual male life expectancy, survived 5 cancers, recently recovered from a pneumonia and was back in the hospital again because the rehab place they sent him to for recovery saw his X-rays, thought he had a NEW case of pneumonia, put him on abx and hosed up his diabetes medications, and he presented back to the ER within a day because his blood glucose shot up to ~600. This was an incredibly stressful event and that's still what came to mind for him.

Dr. Red Ranger fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Sep 25, 2019

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Whatever stops a popular uprising and protects profit. They don't have to care if it's true or not because having a coherent and logical philosophical framework for understanding the world and what happens in it is not, nor has it ever been, the objective. This is the just the schoolyard bully running to the teacher because you hit back writ large.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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PJOmega posted:

Sowing the seed for a RINO hunt. The party demands loyalty tests.

Something like that. What other reason would they have to undermine their presidential charge by saying that but not including any useful information? Oh no the Dems might get their way if *some R's* don't do their duty because of a crisis of faith!

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Flesh Forge posted:

His first joke is "if you're 35 and your job involves wearing a name tag you've made a serious vocational error"

that hasn't aged too well :rolleyes:

I'm getting there and pharmacists have to wear name tags. He's not wrong on that account I guess.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Calico Heart posted:

Hey all. Can anyone think of any examples of the Whitehouse censoring/pressuring media? Or perhaps Fox News or otherwise a giant company? I’m working on a video about censorship.

For the Whitehouse I have them bitching about The Hunt until it was cancelled and also way back a Bush staffer getting offended by Bill Maher and his show getting cancelled

What exactly happened to the Dixie Chicks? I knew they were exiled from public life after daring to criticize the Iraq War but I don't remember if that was at the behest of Cheney/Rove or if that was a spontaneous burst of reactionary bile from the zeitgeist of the time.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Or know what a standardized anomaly is at all. I don't think I've seen that verbiage before.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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Great Metal Jesus posted:

Was just arguing with an acquaintance about the El Paso shooter because I hate life and also myself. It's honestly fascinating just how much we live in nearly completely different realities sometimes.




My grandmother, lifelong registered Democrat who didn't see anything wrong with what Clinton did to warrant impeachment, watches OANN and thinks Climate Change is made up because people died during the heatwave in New York ~ a decade ago. Entirely different world .

I didn't argue with her because I was there to visit my grandpa, who's 85 and finally went on hospice because his half a dozen different cancers caught up to him at once, and I didn't want to start poo poo. That my grampa , entirely in control of his mental faculties after strictly controlling his diet and lifestyle for decades, is still dying while the creamed clown corn clod that fills his flat-affected frankenface with kentucky fried embolism still shits his pants in the oval office has me boiling with anger. Life is ridiculous.

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Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

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PJOmega posted:

It won't and shouldn't mean much, but for what its worth my sympathies to you. Having been there for relatives during post-hospice end of life care it is never easy. Make sure you're taking care of yourself.

Thanks. My family all lives across the state 300 miles away so I've been making weekend trips when I can. The previous trip I had helped them sort his diabetes therapy as he had presented to the hospital with pneumonia, got well, was sent to a rehab next door for some reason, THEY took x-rays and assumed he had a NEW case of pneumonia because for some reason their clinician wasn't aware he was just treated and such infections appear in x-rays for weeks, and they cleared everything to put him on a sliding scale. When he went home they wrote new diabetes meds for him without taking into account his pre-existing therapy. He went right back to the ER two days later with 600 BG. He and Grandma were understandably very confused about what med was what, which is a duplicate, are these 5 month old basaglar pens still good and are they the same as his Lantus, which of these can go down his PEG tube, etc. I'm glad I was able to help but I can't say it was a good experience, seeing them go through that.

Of course, he's the only adult member of my family who doesn't have Fox News Brain and correctly assessed Trump as an idiot conman.

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