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The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

So earlier people were saying that Dominion caved and that Fox have gotten away scot-free.

What I will say as a lawyer (albeit a criminal defense lawyer, not one who specialises in large corporate Defamation cases.)
Dominion had won a bunch of crucial early victories. But had they gone to trial, they still had to clear the Malice hurdle in Court.

And that right there basically boiled down to a coin flip. If they win that coin flip, Fox is screwed. But then they potentially appeal and appeal and you have more opportunities to lose.

If they lose the coin flip, they go home with nothing.
With so much at stake, I can well understand why they would agree to settle this case.

And while Fox will try to present it as nothing but cost of business, it's huge sums of money. (Even with the earlier story about it being put as a Tax deal.)

It's going to raise the bar on future settlement payments, such as this upcoming Smartmatic suit. And you can bet they now won't settle for less than 700+ million. And how many of those type of settlements can Fox afford?

There was also this story today.

Lachlan Murdoch drops defamation lawsuit against Australian outlet after Dominion settlement
https://jrnl.ie/6049563

So yeah, this could be even more expensive for Fox.

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The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Panfilo posted:

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1662631123782979587?t=7IRALOA0_M1a3b9Hko26Zw&s=19
Everyone is outraged at the idea that a person could get away with being late so many times then sue their employer for being fired over it. People in the comments are saying "now nobody will hire black people because they're afraid they'll get sued!" :ohdear:

Pretty sure this is the garden variety racial discrimination issues at work twisted into "actually we fired her for being late, a totally reasonable cause for termination".

I saw something similar happen on Friday.

(Content Warning. Dead children, medical neglect.)


On a Twitch stream I watch there was a discussion where someone posted a newspaper article about "Somalian immigrant sues NHS for failing to tell her to feed her baby."

The guy who posted this was using it as an example about how there are a lit if stupid people out there who want their hand to be held all the time.

Upon fact checking the article, the background to it came out. This was a 21 year old woman who had given birth to a child. She wasn't monitored while in the hospital, she wasn't given enough information on how to breast feed her baby and as a result the child ended up dying within 24 hours of being born.
She then sued the hospital and the NHS for this shocking example of medical negligence and was awarded substantial compensation.

But the newspaper headline (from the Daily Telegraph an infamously right wing news paper) was one that was technically correct, but also hugely misleading.
It is worded in such a way as to imply the person was awarded money for suing the NHS for not telling her "simple common sense stuff everyone should know" when really she was not given the care a new mother and newborn child require.
It also had the right wing dog whistle racist element of "look this silly foreigner girl came here and took loads of OUR NHS money because she is too stupid to know that you feed babies." to enrage their readers.


Not surprising the whole thing became a online squabble. But as a general rule, if a headline makes it sound like someone got a massive ammount of money for being stupid, then it's worth reading the article in full or another one. Since courts generally look at cases with a fine tooth comb and don't make snap judgments.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Look at all these posters who don't understand that Aladdin is actually set in a post apocalyptic future that just resembles the past as history starts to repeat.
The flying carpet? A technological artifact.
Abu and Iago? Genetically engineered animals that have become common place?

Even the Genie, all his pop culture references are from the distant past. Plus, as he describes, he spent 10,000 years in the lamp before Aladdin released him.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Space Fish posted:

https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-fund-legal-bills-people-treated-unfairly-due-posting-platform-2023-08-06/

Aug 5 (Reuters) - Elon Musk has said his X social media platform will pay the legal bills and sue on the behalf of people who have been treated unfairly by employers because of posting or liking something on the site formerly known as Twitter.

"If you were unfairly treated by your employer due to posting or liking something on this platform, we will fund your legal bill," Musk said in a post on X late on Saturday, adding that there will be no limits to funding the bills.

"And we won't just sue, it will be extremely loud and we will go after the boards of directors of the companies too," Musk said later in response to a post about nothing changing behavior in the U.S. faster than a threat of legal action.


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I'm sure this is being discussed in other threads, but this seems like a massive lightning rod that will scorch Musk, X/Twitter, and any number of relative innocents. Maybe their team will balance one "fired as victim of bigotry" case for every "fired for practicing bigotry" case?

Yeah you'd think it would just be a terrible idea because you'd be making yourself a target in cases you didn't need to get involved in.


But did you also consider that it would make you a target for madmen?
The Musk thread has a post about a guy called WarClandestine (aka an account that spread news about the CIA having biolabs in Ukraine.)
Basically, not only does this guy want to sue everyone since they are all calling him liars when those labs are really there AND he wants Musk to foot the bill.
He is now also promising to go camp out in X HQ until he gets a meeting with Musk.
I can't help but think that is going to not end well.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Levantine posted:

This is dumb in a way only things relating to Elon can be, but he already has huge issues paying his own bills. Does anyone really think he'll pay theirs?

Oh Elon's not going to help anybody with their cases.
The one thing is that it means unhinged people will start showing up demanding to personally speak to Elon about their court case. (See the Biolabs in Ukraine guy.)

It's funny that a guy who needs bodyguards to escort him to and from the toilet and wanted to shut down a guy who would say where and when a jet often used by Musk was in the air, has in effect created a huge personal safety risk by making this announcement about funding court cases.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

BiggerBoat posted:

Saw yet another truck today with the thin blue/red line decals on it and something occurred to me.

I wonder if anyone's ever told them that the police and fire department are deeply socialist?

Reading this reminded me of something.

You know how big companies (Amazon, Walmart etc...) always talk about how Unions are bad for workers and they are better off talking directly to management?

You know an easy way to prove that is horse apples? Just look at how almost every police force on Earth, how one of the first things they do is form a trade union of their members.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Professor Beetus posted:

The amount of telephone to produce "Taylor Swift posted on 4chan" is a Mumbai switchboard

e: I'm going to guess this came from that picture of her standing next to a guy with a homemade swastika t-shirt

Internet slueth Justin Whang has a video doing a breakdown of the theory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrfMvvADRI4

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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BiggerBoat posted:

I don't know.

Just...when RWM and FB and every conservative source of news tells them the election and the country are being stolen from them by the deep state to the point that they freak out, openly and loudly threaten revolution and then stage an attempted coup at the capitol building to prove it, which they then blame on Soros' undercover operatives when it went south and only to say it was never them...

Then they get cold feet about Insurrection 2; Election Boogaloo and decide to stay home since they don't want to be trapped again. Except there were no crowds. Did the Soros Antifa Soldiers just skip these four false flag indictment protests? And miss a golden opportunity to set fire to and burn red states to the ground that they can then pin on the proud boys?

Motherfuckers are like "stay home! It's a trap!" and then wondering where the gently caress everyone was when they stayed home. I'm wondering the same thing since I cashed my all expenses paid Soros check and went to the Georgia indictment but none of my communist brothers and sisters were there. I also voted 14 times.

Sounds like people want to come up with a "legit reason" why they can't personally attend these protests* but they are still totally committed to the cause, guys!
And also are hoping that everyone else goes, takes the risk of it being a trap, nothing bad happens, they get their dream of a new Trump Presidency and are also rewarded for being a true believer....who didn't actually risk anything.

*= And it's not because they are a coward. Who dares say that.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Name Change posted:

One of the reasons that The Boys can be a difficult watch is because it has no protagonists. Every major character is always working an angle and there's something to dislike about all of them. Some of the minor humans are OK blokes I guess.

I disagree with that.
Like I think almost all the Boys (Hughie, Marvin, Frenchie and Kimiko) and Starlight are all heroes. In the sense that they are all working on a moral arc that does go towards good. Butcher can be slotted in as a protagonist who should be good, but his own personal issues are what undoes him.

Even the third season, the use of Soldier Boy and Compound V was something that divided the team, and we saw how it worked out.

I have watched shows where you are stuck with a lot of characters who are all awful, and it's about picking the least awful characters to follow. The Boys isn't that.
Yes, it's very messy (but some of that is entirely on the premise and Garth Ennis' original work) but I find it absolutely has characters who you can root for easily. And they aren't Homelander.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Just imagine Tucker did start producing propaganda pieces for a Russian TV channel and he was doing it fron a shed in his house in wherever he lives in America.

And that shortly after he starts, the Feds roll up to his door for some sort of offence for bypassing Russian money laundering laws.

That would be so funny. Particularly if it came out that Tucker is still so rich that he didn't need to take a paying job from anyone and just chose to do thisbas he can't stand not being on television.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

The first real-life unironic Confederate States flag I saw someone fly was when I moved to Ontario. There’s this whole fascinating genre of canadians who seem to really want to be from the US and like

Questionable choice, eh bud

We have that in Ireland. (Fewer than we used to but I'm fairly sure that our Taoiseach, Irish Prime Minister, is one.)

Basically, Irish people who wish the British were back in charge, and we were a part of the British Empire again.
Like I think it's based on people whose families in the past did well under the Empire and maintain a fantasy that they would also do well in the world that exists in their head. They are also emboldened by a number of very old school Tories who have this public attitude of "when are the Irish going to come to their senses and rejoin with us."

That being said, the last number of years have done a very good job in quieting their voices. But they are still around.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Dr. Red Ranger posted:

Pardon the dumb question, but would those be the "orange men" I've seen mentioned in the occasional Irish comedy, or am I confusing them with something else?

Yeah, so they aren't whom I was referring to.

The "Orange Men" are a very specific type of Protestant who are a big presence in Northern Ireland. Some of them have this overtly romantic notion of the UK (think huge Union Jack flags being hung outside their house all year round to celebrate the new King.)

I can understand them as they are a part of an area that is in the United Kingdom, even if they vastly overstate their part in the Union.

No, the types I was talking about are people who live in Eire/The 26 Counties/ The Republic of Ireland but thirst for English rule.

We call these types "West Brits."

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

Sorry, not related, but I went to read a bit more about him, and LOL

He's said a lot of clangers over the years.

I mean there has been a lot of the awful Conservative thinking. (Him fronting a campaign against "welfare cheats", him talking about Irish people who couldn't afford mortgages should go to the bank of mum and dad, him going back to attacking people on social welfare this week with a reference to "Benefit Streets.")
Then there was the particularly galling lecture to the people of Ireland at their disguist over a memorial to the Black and Tans.

But by far the strangest was him saying that he wishes he was a Tory, or at least he would in the past if they only weren't so uncouth right now.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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ErIog posted:

I did not know that part. That makes Rudy's decision to take this to a trial where he immediately pleads to avoid discovery even stupider then. They showed they were willing to entertain other avenues to address the harm, and Rudy runs his defense case like he's working for the plaintiffs to get max payout.

"I work both sides! That way, I can never lose!"

It would be awful if Rudy was put in such a precarious financial position that he'd have to flip on Trump. (Assuming there is any room for anyone to still flip on Trump.)

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Jun 8, 2013

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BiggerBoat posted:

He looks like someone I can trust. What's the problem?

He looks like the badguy from the first Men in Black film.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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...! posted:

The problem is that Paxton appears to be demanding that a Washington hospital comply with Texas law (Paxton's office says that they made a "request;" the hospital is calling it a demand) which he doesn't have the authority to do.

This sounds like a combination of the AG's office saying "I just called up the Seatle hospitals and asked them to provide records.
No I didn't have any legal authority for doing so. I'd just hope that they'd do it because I am a person of authority making a request."
And the hospital saying "when we were asked to do this, we said no. And the Texas AG's office snarled and made lots of threats which were ultimately meaningless because we knew they didn't have any legal authority to make them."

Still pretty chilling stuff.

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Jun 8, 2013

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PhazonLink posted:

i dont even know those details and I'm a regular poster in these threads/fourms. also why would that matter? how would those facts even be known to tittenhouse before hand? sounds like bs "he's no angel" bs.

Rittenhouse had no idea of the background to the people he shot.

It was very much a "now that you've killed these people, your Right Wing support structure will go through the dead people's backgrounds and attempt to find after the fact justification for the killings."

He just lucked out that the people he shot had the kind of backgrounds that the Right would argue were deserving of the Death Penalty.

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Jun 8, 2013

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FFT posted:

It's a concern, but lol:

"Do these people not have jobs???"

Hey, being in the pay of Russia to ferment dissent and advance right wing causes is a full time job. But I suspect that only a small number of the convey are actually getting paid for their time.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

The olds seem convinced that John Wayne was not a Hollywood actor but a real gunslinger

My ironic favourite Wayne movie is The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

It’s a fun western, but it’s extra spicy behind the scenes. John Wayne plays John Wayne, alongside James Stewart who plays the city-slickin’ lawyer who needs to learn the lay of the frontier.

Except irl Stewart was a decorated vet who could’ve done his WW2 service on the movie star circuit but volunteered for combat while Wayne and Reagan stayed home.

Reading the Wiki article about that film is hilarious. In that the director kept mercilessly mocking Wayne for not going to war to try and get the necessary performance out of him.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Sekhmnet posted:

Holy lawsuits batman!

Fox Executives: Look after the Dominion Lawsuit, we have to be so careful over what we do. Want can't eat another costly Law Suit.

Sean Hannity: Hey guys we just captured this amazing footage, we need to broadcast it right now!

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Jun 8, 2013

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

That’s a dumb and yikes problematic joke french people say bc the spaniards can’t talk right and keep being all spanish. They the spaniards equally think french is dumb while spanish is only for the sexiest people. Believe me I was born with a french passport in blood red country. Do modern chuds somewhere actually give a poo poo about swarthy italians and spaniards? My impression is no.

My brother showed me a clip from the Ted TV show (the Seth McFarlane TV show based on the movie.)
The opening scene is a pretty long (and funny) section where the Dad explains how he can't be racist as Rocky is his favourite movie. (Despite it being about a black guy beating an Italian at boxing.) And an extended bit about how Italians are white, since they were let into the club after they kicked the Cubans out.

So I guess it is indeed a thing.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Neito posted:

4chan was also convinced she was one of them for reasons i can't even begin to understand or articulate.

Internet historian and SA goon Justin Whang, has a video all about this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrfMvvADRI4

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Jun 8, 2013

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The truly funny thing about Conservatives missing the point of Starship Troopers is, even when the film came out in 1997/1998 film critics and reviewers, completely missed that it was satire.

And this was after Paul Verhoven had done Robocop, Showgirls and Total Recall which were known for being satire.

But reviewers just thought "Starship Troopers? This movie doesn't have any depth to it."

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Jun 8, 2013

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OgNar posted:

So this guy gives a rundown of something that Senator Katie Britt from Alabama told during her Republican rebuttal to Bidens SOTU.
TLDR is that she told this story and has been telling it for awhile, about a woman who was trafficked by the cartels.
Except she tells it like this woman had confided in her and that this happened in the US under Bidens rule.
Which it didnt, it happened in Guadalajara Mexico in like 2004 or 2008.
Embellishment and lies, but their people just eat it up anyway.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1766329114292842930

The weirdest thing for.me in that video is how in the subtitles "sex trafficing" is censored. Which....okay.

But then when I says Cartells, it is spelled "C@rtells."
Like they didn't want to take the risk the Cartells would find this video in a Google Search or something.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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No word yet if there were any pizza boxes in the video that led to his arrest.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Piell posted:

Every point is somehow dumber than the last and it started incredibly stupidly
https://twitter.com/april_harding/status/1773730805325389955


There we go. That's the Right Wing double speak I want to hear.

"The Dems are inherently more cunning and ambitious than the Republicans. This type of deviousness means they can't be trusted with power.
At the same time they believe in really stupid, pseudo intellectual things. This type of naivety means they can't be trusted with power."

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

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In fairness to Hunter, it's not a nonsensical argument.

For a start, the argument about a targeted prosecution does have merit in that he was charged with some charges, a "deal" was offered and then further charges were made after a lot of publicity.

I'm not saying it's a slam-dunk argument, but there is certainly an argument to be had there.

Where I'm less sure on is the reasoning that "the AG reports to the President."

As far as I'm aware, in a slight distinction, the AG's client is the US Government as opposed to the sitting President. Obviously, it's into splitting hair's levels and the question about what is the practical differences, but I think anyone would acknowledge that President Biden is certainly staying as far away from the Hunter case on a professional level.
He's not telling them to drop the hammer on Hunter or telling them to go easy on him.
Where as other actors within the different departments could be interfering one way or the other.

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Jun 8, 2013

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Panfilo posted:

Right wing humor in a nutshell:


Here is the thing that no one has brought up.

As bad as that joke is, it at least is competently made. Not in terms of being really funny or subversive or even not obnoxious.
I mean it's competently made in that it has a setup, punch line and correct grammar.

The follow-up post by Charles AKA ProveMe and a long string of numbers is just a barely contained string of rage and vitriol, which adds nothing to the earlier joke.

All this leads me to believe that Charles stole this joke from another right winger or took the joke from someone else and just swapped the names with Biden.
And at no point gave the original authors any credit.

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Jun 8, 2013

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The Islamic Shock posted:

Same. My hate came from furries being the first fetish nearly entirely created by the Internet so I wrote it off as dumb fad poo poo since my fetishes are long, long established as being a thing

Yeah I mean logically furries only came about because of the Internet.
There definitely was no animated things with sexy animated animals before the Internet.
(Copy of Disney's Robin Hood vanishes.)

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Jun 8, 2013

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FlamingLiberal posted:

Andrew Tate is so loving weird.



I guess Andrew Tate was sexually trafficking all those women to make money off people who needed help coming to terms with the fact that they were gay.

Also, Tate is, what? 37?
How many kids does he have?

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