|
I agree with the person who said earlier that right wing media plays to the fears, prejudices and ignorance people already have to rake in the cash. After all, there wouldn't have been a market for this poo poo in the first place if boomers and their ilk weren't clamoring for it. FOX just gives a giant blow-horn to the stupidity that already exists in America, and its not likely that that mouthpiece is going to be taken away anytime soon seeing how far it has seeped into US politics. And I hate to make another "things will be better when the boomers die" comment, but this does seem like a case where the market for extreme idiocy will die down following their passing, little by little.
|
# ¿ Oct 18, 2012 09:53 |
|
|
# ¿ May 2, 2024 11:58 |
|
eshen posted:How do you argue or debate with someone who will dismiss any contrary evidence as being liberal media? This person keeps telling me that I "believe anything I read on the internet" when I point things out to them about Glenn Beck's shock jock past and all the lovely things he said, while they only accept Fox News as the only legitimate and unbiased source. I think a lot of us here have come to the conclusion that the only way to get through to people like this is to be be polite, but plant seeds of doubt over a long period of time. This way, the person can come to the conclusion themselves that they are being lied to and reject the conditioning they've received. There's no magic word or any amount of facts that will instantly convince any essentially brainwashed person that they are being manipulated, so it becomes a long, likely frustrating process. In some cases the person may be so far gone that this approach may be impossible, because they've come to depend on that feedback loop like an addict to a drug. In that case probably the only thing that can possibly break them out is a life shattering event in which they are forced to question everything they believe in. Whether the person in question is actually worth the effort it would take to help them up of the right wing media pit trap is up to you, though. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Oct 30, 2012 |
# ¿ Oct 30, 2012 18:53 |
|
You pretty much have to assume that the whole "dittohead" thing is Rush having contempt for his audience. Does anyone know how that deal got started in the first place? People call up every day just to essentially say: "hey I'm an idiot with no real opinions of my own and defer to whatever you say." At some point (if not from the very beginning), Rush had to be thinking exactly that.
|
# ¿ Nov 1, 2012 05:01 |
|
Yeah, but I'm wondering where the "dittos", "megadittos", "I'm a proud dittohead" meme got started. I assume that Rush keeps a tight lip about it, but have there been times where its been obvious that he has contempt for these people?
|
# ¿ Nov 1, 2012 05:15 |
|
joedevola posted:I'm watching Dick Morris on Fox News at the moment going on about how all the polls that show an Obama advantage are wrong 'because of math'. They probably developed some really expensive habits they have to support. For example, could Rush keep flying to the Dominican Republic with jars full of viagra if he retired?
|
# ¿ Nov 5, 2012 04:39 |
|
Cheekio posted:Is there some sort of support network for people whose loved ones watch fox news? I have a family member who is a brilliant engineer, and is hooked on cable news, watching fox news as his main source and using CNN as a left wing foil. You might try to appeal to his sense of wanting to appear intelligent. Maybe try saying something like "You're a really smart guy, why do you watch 24-hour/cable news?" "You don't need that stuff, its not made for people who can decide on things for themselves." etc. If he brings up something he heard off FOX or the like at some later point, just laugh and brush it off, shaking your head. Eventually he might get the point that the stuff he's regurgitating doesn't make him look respectable. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Nov 7, 2012 |
# ¿ Nov 7, 2012 04:42 |
|
This article was mentioned in the election thread, but it fits here pretty well I think: 'The Long Con: Mail-order conservatism' http://www.thebaffler.com/past/the_long_con/ It goes into detail about how conservatives are targeted with scams and snake-oil bullshit in media because marketing people have realized that it is far easier to play to these people's fears to make cash or take power. This leads into an observation that (paraphrasing) not a single prominent conservative figure denounced Romney for his constant, pathological lying while he was trying desperately to distance himself from his past. The author argues that conservatism has basically become entwined with dishonesty and it is expected that you will lie to the best of your ability to get to the top of the right-wing totem pole. Moreover, it states that people targeted by right wing media have been lied to so much, that they too have (at best) an indifference towards all the blatant lies spewed out at them everyday. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Nov 13, 2012 |
# ¿ Nov 13, 2012 06:17 |
|
Maybe that will be the new right wing "if only!!!" gun meme: If only Tidus was there to save the day (and my heart) with his magical blitz balls!
|
# ¿ Dec 20, 2012 07:43 |
|
And yet apparently the only thing that matters to their supporters, regardless of how many people they rip off and how much of their money they gorge themselves with, are whether they're helping republicans win and/or pushing ideology. Only now that conservative pundits like Rove have failed so publicly and miserably has anyone bothered to start analyzing where all that money was going. This type of behavior is absolutely cancerous to society. The blatant looting, manipulation, and looking the other way. I'm inclined to agree with poster The Entire Universe in that such cancer needs to be cut out before we can have anywhere near a functioning republic. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Jan 9, 2013 |
# ¿ Jan 9, 2013 05:22 |
|
I'm pretty sure Yahoo actual tailors the "top" articles that appear to you based on your past article views or something similar. I still use yahoo mail (for some reason) and I rarely ever get conservative blowhard articles appearing. I even had an story linked on my email page about Alex Jones going crazy on TV, and the article was actually titled "Pundit Goes Crazy on Morgan's Show" or something similar even though many people were reporting that the incident wasn't being reported anywhere. The comments are still godawful though.
|
# ¿ Jan 10, 2013 02:27 |
|
The whole conservatives believing Colbert isn't satire reminds me of a similar situation on radio . Several years ago, a guy named Phil Hendrie used to "do shtick" on his radio show (on KFI in Los Angeles, though he was syndicated in a lot of places) by throwing his voice to make it appear he was talking to other people when he was actually just talking to himself. He would come up with crazy or outlandish situations for these fake people to talk about, like a man believing he was being bombed by Al Qaeda because he heard a loud noise in the back of his car.. while he was inside a carwash. Or he would have supposed "JPL Scientist" Dr. Jim Sadler "come on" his show and claim things like abortions were actually healthy and women should get them as often as possible. (I don't think that was an actual topic, but similar things were!) He would come up with overtly offensive stuff for his characters to say, and the audience would call up to complain and "debate" his fake characters. This continued until he quit the show after around 8 years, AND even after he was forced to put in a disclaimer at the start of the show revealing his charade. Some people just couldn't believe that it was fake, and continued to call in outraged. He was probably the one guy on the station that wasn't overtly right wing (at least before 9-11), and I believe his show has actually returned and he's doing the same stuff now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phil_Hendrie_Show
|
# ¿ Jan 30, 2013 00:47 |
|
I don't know how much "skill" it actually takes to convince an audience of what they already wanted to believe, as anyone can be a yes man who says all the things their fans want to hear. People like Rush just say those things louder and with a lot more zeal, and the only thing I'd say that's difficult about that is learning to live with yourself afterwards. That and learning how to spew out all that bullshit without reflexively putting your foot into your mouth if you're the type of person who doesn't actually believe Obama is going to murder your grandma, etc. e: Oh I meant Rush Limbaugh, not the band. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Feb 17, 2013 |
# ¿ Feb 17, 2013 09:39 |
|
More like they're outraged now that Rush/Fox News told them they should be outraged.
|
# ¿ Feb 20, 2013 04:32 |
|
AsInHowe posted:This is pretty much true. When I worked in politics, Tea Partiers would send in racist jokes, songs, videos, email forwards, etc., all demanding that the political candidate send them to everyone on his mailing list. Then, we'd get increasingly angry and panicked emails, many with threats of gun violence, when people realized the candidate would not be passing that poo poo on. Threats of violence for not passing on their stupid racist memes to everyone on a government mailing list? What the gently caress is wrong with people holy poo poo.
|
# ¿ Feb 28, 2013 04:30 |
|
Haha, how do they know the kid didn't look before crossing? [LITTLE TIMMY SIGHTED on Monday 4PM not checking for traffic before the innocent motorist's car just happened to collide with him!] Also often times if the victim dies, or comes really close to dying so it's assumed they're going to die (even if they don't), the police won't even pursue the hit-and-runner because "Hey they're dead why bother ruining another life (and my coffee break)". Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Mar 1, 2013 |
# ¿ Mar 1, 2013 05:14 |
|
gently caress You And Diebold posted:So according to this GBS thread, from this news(?) article Glenn Beck lost his voice and turned into a liberal? Is this an april fools joke or something? A really good look alike for a satire news piece? More like his right-wing good will dried up and now he needs a new big pile of cash to leech off of.
|
# ¿ Jun 14, 2013 04:04 |
|
She has no credability anymore except as a shill for Fox, so yeah we probably can.
|
# ¿ Jun 24, 2013 15:21 |
|
At this point I kind of wonder if fox is just posting the most ridiculous headlines possible not to rile up their base, but for comedy value, like they're actually making a sincere attempt to compete with the Onion.
|
# ¿ Aug 21, 2013 18:52 |
|
socialsecurity posted:My GF is in a college economics test and they had a multiple choice test where the correct answer to "welfare helps it's citizens to" was "become dependent on the government and not be motivated to work" I'm starting to see why so many people believe this nonsense. Nice Davis posted:What college is that? Bob Jones University? Yeah seriously, if the words 'Bible' or 'Liberty' aren't somewhere in the title that will probably be really dissapointing.
|
# ¿ Aug 25, 2013 20:29 |
|
I guess we'll just have to wait until 24 hours after the leader of the GOP (Limbaugh) comments on it, or has he already and no one is falling in line for once?
|
# ¿ Sep 2, 2013 22:27 |
|
Wow that bow tie. It's like he's channeling Tucker Carlson's decomposing corpse of a career.
|
# ¿ Sep 13, 2013 00:14 |
|
kik2dagroin posted:Rush just now raged against AMC movie theaters for offering free popcorn to furloughed federal workers. He then transitioned into implying that this was racist because what about immigrants that need photo ID's to vote? Those people won't have a valid photo ID to get their popcorn! They're going to get back pay anyway, why should any company sympathize with their plight?! So, I'm assuming he was equally if not more appalled at the voter ID initiative right?
|
# ¿ Oct 2, 2013 19:39 |
|
As a member of the Leftist Thought Police (LTP), I would just like to say
|
# ¿ Dec 22, 2013 00:53 |
|
Intel&Sebastian posted:Yamcha vs Pocket Akuma right now was the realest match I've ever seen Well there you have it folks, Saltybet is right wing media. They do blame Obama every time there's a time out I guess!
|
# ¿ Jan 5, 2014 21:22 |
|
I kind of wonder what it's like to work at Fox News, whose entire programming is devoted to feeding old people and idiots whatever they want to hear, when most people working there are probably smart enough to know better.
|
# ¿ Jan 11, 2014 01:01 |
|
Buy katanas before the BIG GOV bans them! It already happened in Japan!!!
|
# ¿ Jan 29, 2014 10:25 |
|
I don't see what the point is in pontificating about who supported the wars after 911 and who didn't because it didn't really matter, the Bush administration was going to go ahead with it regardless. Considering how few people were on the fence about the issue it's really doubtful any amount of protesting was going to stop or even slow the war machine down.
|
# ¿ Feb 4, 2014 06:52 |
|
Lycus posted:Come on, there's no way this isn't an act. She's just playing the character of a dumb person, right? You really have to wonder about some of the dweebs on fox, because from that book/expose that was done by the guy who worked there for eight years, you apparently only work there if you were rejected from basically every other network. Gretchen Carlson does have an impressive education, but one wonders why she's not doing something better than working on Fox & loving Friends considering that.
|
# ¿ Feb 6, 2014 06:29 |
|
God drat, it's like if a movie premiered about a twirly mustached villain with top hat and monocle tying women to train tracks, Fox would be ALL OVER THAT poo poo for being totally anti-capitalist.
|
# ¿ Feb 9, 2014 03:43 |
|
Don't forget about pre-emptive pardons and "retroactive immunity". The existence of those things alone should tell anyone anything they need to know about accountability to the law existing in the US of A.
|
# ¿ Feb 12, 2014 23:28 |
|
Is Phil Hendrie right wing now? I remember back back in his KFI days in Los Angeles he was the only guy worth listening to on a station stuffed full of Dr. N-word Schlessinger, Limbaugh, and other right wing blowhards. His last syndicated station in New York just fired everyone and went Spanish recently, so the move he's making now isn't too surprising.
|
# ¿ Feb 15, 2014 11:50 |
|
Infomaniac posted:He did an interview with greg gutfield on his show and I remember listening to it and feeling very surprised about the whole thing. First, Hendry rarely has guests. He would not stop fellating gutfield about how great redeye was. WTF? Hendry has very strong, very real, very original comedy chops- he must know gutfield is an unfunny hack. Was the love real or some play to get listeners or a ploy to get on fox? I didn't know he got divorced, from the talkshow host he met at KFI? Or was it the traffic lady? Totally forgot her name. I remember he did get a lot more right wing after 9-11 (along with everyone else), but he supported gay rights and poked fun at a lot of right wing bullshit before and afterwards.
|
# ¿ Feb 15, 2014 21:08 |
|
kik2dagroin posted:Within the first 10 minutes of Limbaugh's show today he 'd Obama by saying that the first thing Hitler did was create universal healthcare. Because you and I know that is totally what Obamacare is Again? You sure he wasn't just playing a rerun?
|
# ¿ Feb 20, 2014 18:43 |
|
kik2dagroin posted:Today Limbaugh brought up a very popular freeper talking point on-air Wow, Rush is channeling parody Chuck Asay levels of crazy here: (by crowfeathers) Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Feb 21, 2014 |
# ¿ Feb 21, 2014 23:49 |
|
Did you ever take a look at the Tea Party Community thread? TPC was filled to the brim with crap like that and it functioned as nothing more than masturbatory material for the users to congratulate each other over in a non-ironic manner.
|
# ¿ Feb 24, 2014 07:19 |
|
CNN continuously playing the Malaysian plane story makes sense, I mean they're just playing to their main audience. Airplanes in LAX.
|
# ¿ Apr 3, 2014 20:56 |
|
radical meme posted:Sometimes I have to touch the poop even more than usual so I check out conservative news media and these caught my eye today. Haha, well I guess we know where all those TPC site donations were going to now!
|
# ¿ Apr 4, 2014 03:00 |
|
I say, the
|
# ¿ Apr 12, 2014 02:02 |
|
It probably won't matter once the guy gets arrested soon.
|
# ¿ Apr 13, 2014 21:08 |
|
|
# ¿ May 2, 2024 11:58 |
|
BiggerBoat posted:Speaking of this, I've been getting a lot of e-mails from my Libertarian brother in law and my right wing conservative father in law loving raging about Common Core. They're in Georgia. We're going up there for Easter. My brother in law's wife is a teacher. The BIL has two kids (13 and 10). Everyone's pissed off and freaking the gently caress out about this. I've seen some friends quoting Victoria Jackson posts on facebook about the new methods of teaching things like subtraction under common core. Even considering the source, the method shown did actually seem needlessly complex, and I don't really get the point of the change if this is indeed what's actually happening. Here's the image in the post:
|
# ¿ Apr 15, 2014 23:40 |