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President Kucinich posted:This thread is primarily focused on Fox News brand right wing media. It should be expanded to include the likes of the Trinity Broadcasting Network or Jack Van Impe Ministries. "Doctor" Van Impe (neither he nor his wife have a PhD from any accredited university) is an end-of-times evangelical with an (admirably) encyclopedic knowledge of biblical verses. He and his dead-eyed wife use their Sunday night slot on Fox to preach hatred of minorities, liberals, and ESPECIALLY Muslims. Seriously, this guy hates Muslims so loving much. The premise behind their show is to preach basic gospel ministry, but it inevitably turns into standard far-right rhetoric complete with full-screen flashes of fabricated fearmongering headlines about the Devil Obama, sympathy for Israel, and why haven't you bought gold yet?? Hazo fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Oct 22, 2012 |
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Sydney Bottocks posted:To me, this is just another example of the corrosive effect the modern-day conservative media is having on dialogue and communications. They've had to go through at least three or four conspiracy theories about Benghazi; and when one gets roundly disproved, instead of slinking away into the dark, never to be trusted again, they just invent some new poo poo and hope it sticks. Amongst all the "God bless our troops!"/"So inspiring!"/"We need a president who respects these fine men!" comments there are, rightfully, occasional people pointing out that it's not a genuine photo. The interesting part is instead of going "Oh haha well I've been fooled, still a neat photo," a lot of folks are doubling down and getting legitimately angry at the fact-checkers, calling them un-American, or ignorant, or just plain stupid. quote:For all those who dispute the *date/time* of this photo, does it REALLY matter? When you are either *willing* to stand with these soldiers or take their place, you have a right to complain. Until then, hush! GOD BLESS these men and their dedication to the USA! quote:It amazes me at the sheer lack of respect of our fallen soldiers in some of these posts. That spot is guarded in respect for your right to post stupid remarks. His bless our troops and country. quote:For those of you complaining about the date of this picture, learn respect. Our Heros stand there 24/7. If you cannot support them and stand behind them, feel free to stand in their spot!!! (Also funny are the people talking about how bayonets are on the rifles therefore Obama is dumb)
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Oct 30, 2012 14:58
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TheGreyGhost posted:Nope Ann Coulter III is Michelle Malkin. Coulter IV perhaps? 
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Nov 2, 2012 07:34
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The O'Reilly Factor (with Laura Ingraham filling in) was on at the bar tonight, and it really seems like doubling down on evil is the next step for the GOP. The logic (and I use that word loosely) was thus: Republicans should absolutely not move toward the center, because Obama didn't move toward the center after the tea party successes in 2010 and he got re-elected. The amount of mental gymnastics required to make sense of that is beyond my comprehension. edit: Like, I can't even type it out in a coherent way that makes fun of the absurdity of it. "Don't become more liberal, because our enemy who refused to become less liberal achieved success," maybe? Nimmy posted:Fordham (a Jesuit University) College Republicans invited Ann Coulter to an event. College President Father McShane had this response Hazo fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Nov 10, 2012 |
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Nov 10, 2012 07:34
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quote:Imagine you being able to choose whatever doctor you want to go to, for whatever malady. Imagine you being able to choose your doctor or your provider based on the best price you can get. Imagine there not being a death panel denying you treatment because of your age.
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Feb 8, 2013 02:17
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Sex and orgasms are dirty liberal concepts.  Also, learn how to use apostrophes, drat.
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Feb 13, 2013 01:25
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William Bear posted:I love that url. "Americans absorb 36 percent pay cut while Washington fights over sequester." Hey everyone! Two things happened! Americans renouncing citizenship to become British thanks to tax rise Well let's see. First there's the fact that taxes are not lower in Britain. Then, more importantly, there's the fact that Americans can't escape taxation by renouncing citizenship. These two blatant falsehoods should be enough to make the article worthy of mockery on their own. But no, even better is that the article itself says that the very title of the article has no evidence whatsoever to support it. quote:Across the world 1,781 Americans renounced their citizenship in 2011 compared with just 231 in 2008, when US tax laws changed, although it remains unknown how many are adopting British rather than any other nationality. It really is a remarkable example of how right-wing media does not expect their idiotic consumers to do anything beyond reading the article title and reposting it everywhere they can.
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Mar 5, 2013 15:18
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Lycus posted:I have a right to drive across this army base, I don't recognize federal claims!
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Apr 25, 2014 13:24
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Intel&Sebastian posted:So is Rush contending that the audio is fake? Or that the real crime here is that a rich white mans phone call was leaked? I don't see how you can declare something a giant conspiracy against someone when the...ahem...lynchpin of the whole thing is the person themselves being a verifiable racist coot? - conspiracy orchestrated by Magic Johnson (a black man so therefore the real racist) to buy the team - the mistress is the real bad guy for being a gold-digging whore and recording him - Sterling's free speech was violated because he's being punished for something he said in private (note that this isn't remotely how free speech works, but the whole thing with the Duck Dynasty guy made it clear that Republicans don't understand the first amendment) - TMZ is bad, example of societal deterioration, something something about spreading personal information like the gubmint does (I don't really follow this one, I heard it last night on a sports call-in show and I think the dude just wanted to rage about the government) You'll likely hear variations on those statements, especially #2 and #3, in the coming days from idiot right-wingers. edit: You'll also probably hear some slippery slope argument because owners don't like the idea of being held responsible for being scumbags (since most of them are), but that was mainly Mark Cuban who is an idiot and who also apparently has backtracked
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Apr 29, 2014 22:48
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Classic Rush, play the sound clip of yourself calling Sterling a Democrat in order to get defensive, but leave out the part where you got completely owned by loving Jezebel.com to the point where you actually admitted Sterling was a Republican on air. Just little bits of dishonesty dropped here and there, it's almost impressive how the right does it.
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Apr 29, 2014 23:17
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poor nose posted:You guys remember a couple of weeks ago when the right wing was super proud of the fact that a group of students protested Michelle Obama giving a commencement speech and the right wing went nuts taking it as a sign "That even these KIDS understand what the Obama's stand for and they want NOTHING to do with them!!" -Rush Limbaugh (dictated but not read) quote:As a Professor for thirty years at Stanford University and as it’s former Provost and Chief academic officer, I understand and embrace the purpose of the commencement ceremony and I am simply unwilling to detract from it in any way.
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May 3, 2014 20:03
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The Ape of Naples posted:No one knows or really cares. The occasional typo has no significance to anything.
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May 4, 2014 06:34
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It's common knowledge, right? That Rush/EIB hires callers to make him look good. That was one of those.
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May 4, 2014 09:21
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Holy poo poo that story about the woman brainwashing her five daughters with Rush's books.  Hopefully once they grow older and actually get some maturity and real-world perspective they'll realize how insane their mom is for indoctrinating them with hate and lies.
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May 6, 2014 02:27
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CNN ran a decent opinion article about Why Obama can't catch a break despite objective evidence showing economic and financial improvement. Surprise, a lot of it has to do with the toxic atmosphere supported by the major media outlets. Share my pain, read the comments. Lots of "LOL ivory tower libtard, how can you think news corporations owned by white billionaires are conservative?"/"BENGHAZI BENGHAZI WHAT ABOUT [insert random unrelated factoid they heard about on talk radio]"/"George Bush who's that? STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT!"/"He lied about keeping your doctor!"
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May 6, 2014 03:09
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Wolfsheim posted:I spend a fair portion of my downtime at work reading the comments on news sites, and I don't think I've seen one in the last six months that didn't have a lovely "like your doctor keep your doctor" quip on any remotely political article, even ones that weren't about Obama. Honestly, they're all pretty indistinguishable, with the exception of Fox News articles about racism, which always have comments disabled (I can't imagine why they don't want the world to know their userbase's opinion on Cliven Bundy's negro comments). I try to tell myself that these are just vocal idiots who are too dumb to spend their time regurgitating talking points on Internet articles, and it's much better to listen to actual journalists and scholars who know what they're talking about, but then I remember that the GOP is expected to retake the Senate so sometimes I just don't know. Black man in the White House really scared the gently caress out of these lunatics (but it's totes not about race, he's just the worst president ever despite being slightly to the left of Bush Sr.).
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May 6, 2014 06:20
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It kills me when the right talks about the perils of groupthink when they have an organized billion-dollar media industry dedicated to misinforming and brainwashing low-information voters. It's like all they do is say NUH-UH NO U. Also I'm going to be that goon who points out that Kool-Aid wasn't used at Jonestown but the National Review is poo poo and conservatives never concern themselves with "history" and "facts" anyhow. edit quote:the trappings of being a cult that preyed on impressionable and vulnerable people run by a single person who fostered a fear of outsiders Hazo fucked around with this message at 22:27 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 22:24
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That's a hilarious bunch of caller plants and climate change denialism bullshit (I liked the part where the guy was getting to the point that climate change was "political" because Republicans made it that way to protect their industry kickbacks and that yes, there are alternatives to oil, and Rush just cut the transcript), but I'm still stuck on how the gently caress this happened in the first paragraph: quote:"He was last seen boarding a private plane bound for Chicago. But US Customs officials say he never formally entered the country, withdrew his application and turned the plane around. Neither his brother Doug Ford or lawyer Dennis Morris will say where exactly he is, but maintain he is in rehab as promised." But it's not that. He "never formally entered the country." He was turned away, according to Canada's journalists at the Globe & Mail. 
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May 6, 2014 23:37
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Yeah the logic in that section was pretty abstract. He somehow gets proof of his conspiracy based on a couple of vague lawerly statements that say absolutely nothing about this climate change blacklist or whatever the gently caress he's going on about. I'm still curious what exact ulterior motive Rush and his cronies think the left has for promoting environmental and resource conservation. Of course the right has a reason (monetary kickbacks, campaign donors from destructive companies, cronyism, etc.) but they never can explain how "hey let's maybe let our grandkids know what fishing is" is a leftist controversial political issue.
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May 7, 2014 05:12
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I can't stop laughing. That's how millennial libertarians and college republicans see themselves? That's their ideal?
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May 8, 2014 07:42
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Somehow it still retains the same effect.
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May 8, 2014 08:54
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Haha I checked out the website for that girl's hate group quote:The Stanford Anscombe Society (SAS) is a student group that promotes discussion regarding the roles of the family, marriage, and sexual integrity in the lives of Stanford students both now and after graduation. SAS is neither religiously nor politically affiliated, instead basing our positions on human principles. We hold that the family is the key unit of a stable society, and we define the family as one man and one woman bound together by marriage, along with any children that they might have. SAS defines marriage as a union, until death, between one man and one woman. We promote the idea that sexual integrity is necessary for this family unit to be successful.  big enough. Just be honest that you're right-wing shills.
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May 9, 2014 04:44
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Hasn't Kelsey Grammar tried to kickstart one or two low-budget networks dedicated to "comedy" that exclusively shits on the poor and disenfranchised?
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May 10, 2014 05:42
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SedanChair posted:It's so tragic. Can you imagine what a deliberately left-wing comedy show would be like, that actually prized political correctness over comedy? *ignores that Stewart has been relentlessly critical of every administration since Clinton* *is a conservative who doesn't actually watch the show*
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May 11, 2014 08:27
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I gottaa hand it to Rush, he's always been exceptionally good at talking at length about a general topic without saying anything substantial or truthful, but with just enough authority and vaguely big-sounding words to appeal to the hateful uneducated conservatives who listen. The "modern-day Goebbels" analogy is really spot-on. I also loved the insistence on the non-existence of a functional socialist society. As though Norway, Denmark, England, Canada, etc. don't all exist and have better quality of life and social services for their citizens.
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May 13, 2014 22:06
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Even if doesn't match up exactly, a lot of it is just pretty standard populist propaganda. A good example is the repetition of codewords. "Chi-Coms." "Regime." "Democrat" as an adjective. Every one of these is misleading or misapplied, but it gives his low-information listeners a way to feel smart and part of the club. On the other hand, it lets normal people identify anyone who uses these codewords as a complete idiot who has no knowledge of American political issues.
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May 14, 2014 03:24
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kik2dagroin posted:He's a bit more subtle, yeah, but saying this will set off a freeper-like person into believing the whole dictator for life thing. They're making noise for the sake of making noise and saying crazy poo poo, but if you actually call them on it they'll just back down like they cowards they are.
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May 16, 2014 05:28
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Time to read Zinn posted:http://www.nationalreview.com/article/378172/harrys-dirty-amendment-charles-c-w-cooke
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happyhippy posted:Not cynical at all, here's the fat druggie saying the exact poo poo a few years back:  " like it makes them some kind of edgy straight-talking hero. What a worthless sack of crap. Unrelated, but football fans probably know that Carolina Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy was recently ordered to relinquish all his firearms after allegedly committing domestic assault. I can't believe the NRA and the usual GOP mouthpieces aren't outraged at this wealthy economic hero being stripped of his precious constitutional rights. Nah I'm just kidding, we all know why.
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May 20, 2014 15:58
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I'm trying to start reading "denying" as "ignoring."
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May 21, 2014 04:07
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kik2dagroin posted:http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/05/23/why_democrats_want_us_to_see_the_world_through_race_colored_glasses
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:
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GAYMIEN SANDOW posted:Don't worry, they'll just charge the person they're shooting at for those missed shots. Feel free to replace "officer" with some Zimmerman-esque trigger happy vigilante if you like. (This hypothetical brought to you by an identical scenario with a much less terrible ending for me a couple weeks ago in downtown Charleston.)
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nm posted:If they'd felt he was a danger to himself or others, they could have 5150ed him. The problem is that officers are poorly trained in mental health problems and 5150 is way more complicated than arresting someone. Lessail posted:I am glad to see that the focus of the discussion is currently much more about the other cultural/personal issues related to the fiasco, there's no shortage of material to discuss in this case. As useless as I find Facebook to be for any serious debate, I think there's value in discussing the state of mental health and social constructs regarding sexual expectations between men and women. If we can do so without turning the shooter into an anti-celebrity, all the better. I gotta say, though, at least after the last few mass shootings (what a terrible thing to write) the liberal, moderate, and media dialogue discussing both gun prevalence and lack of mental health has caused the conservative crowd to focus obsessively on the latter. So at least now we're actually talking about the awful state of mental health care post-Reagan... even though you know, there's no way the GOP will actually let anyone take meaningful steps to improve it, because gently caress the poor and mentally ill.
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pentyne posted:At a certain point, its an economic windfall for many members. I remember reading about how gun store owners would make sure to post the "Obama's coming to take our guns/ammo" stories in their store because customers would drive for hundreds of miles to stock up on ammo they thought was going to be outlawed. Kenzie posted:Somehow I doubt anything will be done about mental health care. It seems even worse now because of all the partisanship and paranoia and hatred people have for each other now, and the right wing's love for demonizing the more vulnerable members of society. The constant publicity that mass shootings get only make people more paranoid about each other. Kenzie posted:It's like how people mock people with autism or asperger syndrome all over the internet now. Autism or "sperg" or whatever is used as a slur against people you don't like. It's especially rich when liberals who argue for gay rights and equality use a mental condition as a slur. People disgust me. mr. mephistopheles posted:The right wing gun nuts who say we need mental health solutions to gun crime are literally referring to the forced institutionalization of people they deem mentally unfit. It takes a lot of twisting to get them to admit it, too, but if you prod enough eventually they'll just say something vague like "these people shouldn't be out on the streets." 
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May 27, 2014 06:18
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Raskolnikov38 posted:God drat those are some leading questions. Hazo fucked around with this message at 11:01 on May 27, 2014 |
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May 27, 2014 10:48
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computer parts posted:This is starting to sound like an unironic approval of "tough on crime" rhetoric.
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May 27, 2014 18:31
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I thoroughly enjoyed the part where Rush complains about "the left" exploiting and spinning the shootings for their own benefit, and then in the next breath starts mocking the kid's dad for some reason. Still not as good as talking at length, with great confidence, about the implications and subtext of a story he's never read or seen though. That's just special.
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May 28, 2014 04:46
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The V for Vendetta stuff is fascinating to me because of how badly the right-wing media tipped its hand in their reaction to it. If you'd only heard it secondhand and still wanted to discuss its political message (although who'd be dumb enough to try and do something like that?) it'd be pretty easy to frame it as "anti-big-government, suck it libs." If you've seen it though then you know the movie is clearly more about criticizing fascism, religious bigotry, media distortion, authoritarianism, and even a bit of isolationism. When Fox and co. came out saying the movie was attacking Bush and conservatism, it was another tacit acknowledgement that they represent all those things. They know their ideology is a hideous scam, and they're the closer analogue to the ruling administration shown in the film.
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The National Review mourns the passing of May Angelou, best known for her role as a black gun owner. Also she was some kind of writer or something we guess Hieronymous Alloy posted:Alan Moore originally wrote V for Vendetta in response to Thatcherism so it actually isn't that far off to say it's an attack on conservatism, especially right-wing bigotry and authoritarianism. Of course, that's not really a bad thing.
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