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TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

FuzzySkinner posted:

TV as we know is going to die off, and we're going to be given the choice to stream whatever the hell we want. The final hurdle is going to be live sports, and news. (both of which are on the verge of doing that anyway). Once that's done, what are they going to have left?
For the time being at least, there's Jeopardy. :v:

It's basically the only reason I still have any kind of TV service. You can't watch it anywhere else.

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TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

BiggerBoat posted:

Not really. I get it. I have a son and am glad I do, for several reasons. My brother in law has two daughters and I don't think it's creepy, weird or much of a stretch to think that he has the harder job, if for no other reason than the acknowledgement that women are not treated equally under the law and in society in general, so maybe they might require "extra" or "special" protection by their parents.

I get what you mean as well but, as a parent, I think it'd harder and scarier overall to raise a daughter than a son.
I think it depends on what you mean by "protection from sexual knowledge/experience". It's one thing to give extra attention to a daughter over a son when it comes to teaching them about sex, since obviously the consequences of sex can be much more severe for a girl than a boy. It's another thing to "protect" a daughter by keeping facts about sex hidden from them so they will remain "pure" or whatever. I think beatlegs was referring to the latter.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Install Windows posted:

:ssh: it also describes teenage girls
But god forbid a teenage girl act on those impulses, because then she's a slut. Obviously this is not true for teenage boys with the same impulses because :shrek:

EDIT: also what Sharkie said

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

BiggerBoat posted:

Fair enough, but during the segment of Cain's show I was listening to he said "I've done the math and raising the minimum wage to $10.10 won't lift those people out poverty."
When the gently caress did it become a valid argument to say "Doing X will help with problem Y, but it won't help enough to fix it completely, therefore we shouldn't do X"? It's become a really common right-wing talking point on everything from healthcare to climate change and I loving hate it.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

FuzzySkinner posted:

I keep seeing ads for that "America" movie, and I find the use of MLK Jr. rather amusing considering the content.

MLK Jr. WAS A SOCIALIST. HE FOUGHT FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE. HE WAS SHOT WHILE TRYING TO SUPPORT A UNION IN MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE. HE'S THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU BITCH ABOUT IN YOUR MOVIE, MR. D'SOUZA.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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paranoid randroid posted:

Jillette also lives in the second ugliest, stupidest house I've ever seen.
Well now you have to tell us what the ugliest is.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.
"Putting women in their place, using violence if necessary" is a pretty old-time value, yeah.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Steven Crowder on Chris Rock and slavery(Blacks did it first)
Literally this:

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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mr. mephistopheles posted:

I imagine a torn rotator cuff is a legit reason to not be able to do pull ups anymore.
And a great excuse when people ask you to prove the number of pullups you TOTALLY can do, guys. This is "uncle at Nintendo"-level bullshitting. I WOULD show you how I can do two dozen pullups, but uh... I tore a rotator cuff awhile back, so I can't do any now. Yeah, that's right.

(I actually believe him when he says he tore his rotator cuff, but still, awfully convenient excuse.)

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Hazo posted:

I heard a real life Trump commercial on the local Fox affiliate on the way into work this morning. Some actual quotes (I swear I'm not making these up):

"He will build a wall on our southern border and make Mexico pay for it"
"He will make our military so strong no country will ever mess with us"
"He will brutally cut the head off ISIS"

Like, I know Idiocracy jokes get made a lot but holy poo poo how does anyone hear these words and think yes, this is a mature and serious candidate and not at all a loving lunatic, I want to vote for this.
Trump is basically that one guy everyone knows who responds to political issues with "but it's so SIMPLE, we'll solve everything if we build a giant wall along the entire border/nuke the entire Middle East/lower taxes to zero. Why hasn't anyone tried this? It's so easy!"

These guys hear Trump and think, "Finally, someone who gets it! I've been saying this poo poo for years!"

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.
ANY DAY NOW

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Plus its a bit easier when you're nominating qualified applicants and not your personal lawyer who sucks.
It also helps that Sotomayor and Kagan's nominations didn't change the balance of the Court. If Obama or Hillary get to nominate one of the conservatives' replacements I think we're going to see the Republicans suddenly insist on a whole lot more "scrutiny" for the nominee. If they even allow one at all.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

LongSack posted:

So how do the prosperity gospel folks deal with things like Matthew 19:24 (Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God). Do they just ignore it?
By rationalizing it and/or making poo poo up, as other posters have already pointed out. There is no passage in the Bible you can point out to prove these people wrong, because they can do one or both of these things to make themselves right, all the time.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

mr. mephistopheles posted:

Why would that happen? The only way I see that happening is if Trump is such a dick to her that people start to feel sympathetic, which I really can't imagine happening.
The general public tends to not like attacks against women as much as they do attacks against men, even if they're valid. Anyone remember the 2008 VP debate? Biden could have eaten Palin alive that night, but he was told to hold back so that he wouldn't look like a "bully."

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Phone posted:

It's going Red despite a 750k+ popular vote discrepancy, it just so happens that only 2, maybe 3, districts went blue.

Like I wouldn't be shocked if there were over a million vote difference for the Democratic candidate, but the state giving its electoral votes towards the Republican candidate.

Gerrymandering works.
That's not how electoral votes work though :confused: They're given to the winner of the popular vote of the state, barring some weird cases like Maine and Nebraska.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Chilichimp posted:

That's not at all how that works.

edit: I'm assuming, I'd legit like you to explain to me that I'm wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_%28United_States%29

Wikipedia posted:

Except for the electors in Maine and Nebraska, electors are elected on a "winner-take-all" basis. That is, all electors pledged to the presidential candidate who wins the most votes in a state become electors for that state.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

McDowell posted:

Which is really embarrassing considering all the press this cycle has gotten. But disenfranchisement is part of that too - states with different rules about registration/party affiliation. You would think the 'Democratic' party would want high turn-out primaries to brag about.
As has been pointed out in other threads, Hillary basically has the nomination sewn up already, and that depresses turnout because people are less motivated to vote when they think their candidate will easily win without them. That has no bearing on whether people will vote in the general, which is likely to be more of a contention.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

McDowell posted:

How can a nomination be 'sewn up' before a single ballot is cast? That disregard for process or the importance of individual votes is what depresses turn-out more than anything. The Democratic Party should be all about maximum turn-out and engagement in every election at every level.
She has it sewn up in that the vast majority of people already believe she's going to be the nominee, and the polls bear this out. Bernie made it a competition for awhile, but right now all the news has to say about the Democratic primary is that Clinton has a huge advantage going into Super Tuesday and is probably going to win most of the states. Your average voter sees that.

And no amount of GOTV is going to beat a voter thinking, "Well, I could go vote for Clinton/Bernie in the primary, but we all know Clinton's going to win and that's two hours out of my way. What's the point?"

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

twistedmentat posted:

It's going to be amusing in the general seeing Trump try to court evangelicals.
Trump is already winning with evangelicals; just look at his results in the deep South. One of the things that we're learning about evangelicals this election is that they don't give a gently caress about Christianity--they just vote for the guy who's most openly racist. I don't think they're the people Trump needs to court.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I just think the game is poorly written and unfunny in general. its nothing to do with the LGBT stuff it's self. it just feels kinda weirdly preachy and forced in pre-sequel. I prefer show and don't exposition story telling. Its why i like margret attwood books for my progressive lit instead of stuff like that. I am not against LBGT characters existing, i just don't want them to be poo poo.
I still think the best way to handle gay characters was done by Mass Effect 3. Not with the major plot-relevant people, but with some of the minor dudes working on your ship. You can chat up a man on your crew at one point and ask how he's feeling about how the war against the evil robot Reapers is going, and he'll mention that he's worried about his husband stationed on a planet somewhere. There's no follow-up to this. You can't have Shepard go "OMG YOU'RE GAY???" Nobody says anything further about his sexuality. Dude just happens to have a husband and it's treated like it should be: like nothing out of the ordinary.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Rick_Hunter posted:

Is this about Cruz probably picking Fiorina as his running mate?
Isn't it a little early to be declaring VPs, especially when it's basically mathematically impossible to become the nominee?

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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Holy loving :lol: at the idea that Walsh ever had the "most shared" anything ever.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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Xanderkish posted:

You know the relationship is on a good track when the first thing he brings up about his girlfriend is that she's Asian. Even before the word "girlfriend".
It actually doesn't surprise me when paired with his desire to see affirmative action dismantled. Isn't there a fair number of Asians who want to get rid of it (because those drat black/Latino kids don't deserve to get into college over their straight-A children, a thing which totally isn't stdh.txt)?

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

ZDar Fan posted:

Admiral Falafel has weighed in on BLM


TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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Bushiz posted:

I'm wondering he does after his loss. Does he concede, and say that being forced to work with losers like the RNC and Paul Ryan made him lose in an effort to save face, and then transition to running a white nationalist media empire? Does he refuse to concede? Does he demand recounts even in the event of a double-digit landslide and just crash the whole loving thing into the ground?
He won't concede but he'll quietly accept the result in the end because it allows him to look like A Winner That Totally Would Have Won If It Weren't Rigged. He'll file lawsuits (which will be thrown out instantly) and call for recounts (which won't change the result) but I think that's actually the position he'd prefer. He can then spend the next several years getting attention on demand and criticizing Hillary Clinton as much as he wants without having to actually be president.

EDIT: Maybe not "quietly" accept, but he'll accept it without saying that he's doing it.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.
Someone pointed this out in another thread: one of the best parts of Hillary's speech today is that while Trump is trying to run away from it, basically everyone else named in the speech is going to wear it as a badge of honor and proudly go on any news show that will have them to further espouse their lovely-rear end ideology. :allears:

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

tacodaemon posted:

I have read lots of articles about how, as a practical matter, it is next to impossible for the GOP to actually get someone else at the top of the ballot at this point, but I still need to be talked down from the ledge about my fear that they'll be able to get some other right-wing rear end in a top hat on the ballot who will win because he hasn't had 30 years of poo poo thrown at him like Clinton has
Even if it were possible for them to replace Trump, the replacement would forever be known as "hahahaha you're the guy who had to replace Trump." Nobody prominent wants to be that guy, and anyone who does isn't prominent enough to win.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Twelve by Pies posted:

Did somebody say Scott Adams?

*snip*

Fifth, since nothing new has actually happened in the news cycle that I'm aware of, I'm fairly certain Scott Adams has now claimed that Trump has a 98% chance of winning in a landslide solely because he has now endorsed Trump.
Can't wait for November 9th where Dillbro proclaims he was right all along because he never said Hillary couldn't win. He said she had a 2% chance of winning, can't you read? :rolleyes:

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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robotsinmyhead posted:

I then realized there were sports calls on there as well, and when the World Series started, it was Cubs 66%. It swung wildly and erratically back and forth after every game, reaching 90+% for the Indians at one point and then down to 75% Indians at game 7. The Cubs won, beating the intermediate odds. I realized that there was going to be a real problem with 538 from there on.
To be fair, sports predictions of any kind are incredibly loving stupid.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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Tender Bender posted:

It really doesn't. Scream bluntly about how your premiums are going up because of the GOP holding down Obamacare while lifting up the Healthcare industry.
The GOP will just scream the opposite more loudly and from more sources at once.

Tender Bender posted:

It doesn't matter if it's not completely accurate or if it's denounced as biased.
Yes it does, because it's hard to have a unified message when half of your side is saying, "Uhhh, are you completely sure about what you're saying there?" The operative difference between the left and the right in this country is that some of the left actually cares when its own leaders start lying.

Tender Bender posted:

It literally doesn't matter, that's why the GOP wins elections at every level at an embarrassing rate, because they don't give a gently caress about that.
They don't give a gently caress about lying because they know their base doesn't give a gently caress when they lie. They know their base doesn't give a gently caress when they lie because they've literally trained their base to be that way through their media. Unless you plan on somehow convincing the Democratic base to just turn off their brains and mindlessly agree with everything their leaders say, your ideas aren't going to work, because the left's base and the right's base are made up of different sets of people who approach politics differently.

This comes up every single time the Republicans have some kind of electoral success and I'm tired of it. There's a reason the concept of "targeted ads" is a thing. You cannot simply transplant a media strategy onto an entirely different group of people and expect it to work exactly the same way.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

twistedmentat posted:

I'll accept them having rocks thrown at them when they appear on the street.

Like seriously, what happened? Why are people so accepting of this kind of poo poo? Why is it becoming mainstream? I though in the 90s poo poo was getting better, people were starting to be less racist and homophobic and generally less lovely, but then as the century turned, it seemed the course we were on was not just changed, but stopped and burned down. Was 9/11 such an event that changed everything forever? Did lovely white people realize their power was slipping and demand it back in the strongest way? Was I just naiive thinking that things were actually getting better?
Racism didn't get any more or less prevalent, I don't think. The racists just feel more comfortable showing their racism now.

As a corollary, one thing to keep in mind is that the people in this country who are against racism (and sexism, and homophobia, and transphobia, etc) didn't just up and vanish because Trump won. We're still here too. Demoralized, but still here. I don't know how much power we're going to have in the coming years, but we didn't disappear.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Ragnar34 posted:

I need someone to walk me through the logic of "Now that Trump is president, you're allowed to say Merry Christmas again."
Trump has been appearing on his thank you tour with giant Christmas trees behind him and a placard on his lectern that says "Merry Christmas" in big letters. Obama would never have done this because Muslim liberal pansy anti-Christian.

That's literally it.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Tell him to google "herd immunity". We vaccinate collectively because disease spreads through the population.
A corollary to this is that widespread vaccination is extremely helpful to the small portion of people who, for whatever reason, can't get vaccinated. Getting rid of mandatory vaccinations because "it's my choice" means you're basically telling everyone with a medical condition that prevents vaccinations, who don't have a choice in the matter, that they can get hosed.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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Dr. Faustus posted:

I happen to have this:

"Every issue is just partisan now, including national defense! Both sides are equally fickle.
Actually...."



The difference on Democrats' opinion is within the rounding error, where the GOP difference is... remarkable.
I'm curious if the shift happened when Trump became president or when the Syria strike actually occurred.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.
"I don't hate gay people, but I wish they wouldn't rub their gayness in everyone's face and keep it to themselves" for a new era.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.
I'm pretty sure it did happen because I seem to recall that Zelda and a bunch of the community responded with something along the lines of, "Zelda is some dude that volunteered one year to play Red Riding Hood when the usual person got sick, and it was fun and he did a great job so we made a tradition out of it. You're the only one reading 'liberal values' and 'brainwashing' into this you loving weirdo."

I don't have the responses on hand but I'm sure someone in this thread does.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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Mantis42 posted:

83%-17% in favor of Hoggstitution.
"We're taking down our poll because it is clear that it is only being voted on by trolls. We will not consider even for a moment that more Americans might side with David Hogg than with what we think the Constitution says."

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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nine-gear crow posted:

Welp, Fox is throwing the Hannity Phalanx down around Laura Ingram too:
This feels rather Baghdad Bob-esque to me. "There is no problem here! Laura will be back on Monday and anyone suggesting otherwise is an Islamolib sympathizer!"

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

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Minenfeld! posted:

I don't get it. His hand is over his heart? What's the issue?
I'm guessing it's that Noted Black Man Barack Hussein Obama is not kneeling for the pledge of allegiance and/or the anthem, therefore ipso facto it makes perfect sense to require all black people to do the same.

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TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

Killer robot posted:

A fair amount of Jewish law is actual moral teaching, but a whole lot, even in its original era, is about maintaining daily practices that are unique to your people and your religion, and bring you in unity with them and God. Even going by the assumption that they're God's literal commandments, rules lawyering around laws that don't actually involve disrespecting God or hurting people still accomplishes that, and still makes you go out of your way to ritually express your devotion to God's commandments. The same thing is true of a lot of other religious fasts and prohibitions. Elaborate workarounds are ceremonies of devotion in themselves.

My favorite elaborate Jewish workaround is the tradition of winding a long wire around entire towns to get around the prohibition of working outside your home on the Sabbath. The wire makes everything inside it technically “indoors” by Jewish law, so if you step out your door you haven’t left your “home” and can still do whatever you want :v:

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