BUSH 2112 posted:

I didn't get to see the debate, what is Romney supposed to have been right about?

Rip Testes posted:

Why does the Fox News BIAS ALERT only feature bias towards Romney?

The Brown Menace posted:

Anyone who is still a teabagger in TYOOL 2012 probably won't be swayed nowadays by anything but someone hosing President Obama down with bleach, desperately hoping he'll turn white.

My take: Good loving riddance. gently caress them.

Sword of Chomsky posted:

Marcus bachmann has to be the most obviously closeted individual I have ever witnessed.

Miltank posted:

I don't know how often it happens but there are absolutely situations where people can do a little better if they are just under a certain amount of money. Just this year my father asked to not be given his lovely raise so that my little brothers and sisters could remain on the discount lunch program at school. If he would have had his income increased by whatever percent or part of a percent that he could have had then they would have to pay much much more for food every year.

LaserShark posted:

I've gotten into the habit of watching the highlight videos on msnbc.com lately. I hadn't seen Morning Joe before and... my god, I thought I was watching Fox for a few moments there. So many smug hard-right bastards. What's up with that, if MSNBC is supposed to be such a polar opposite to Fox?

Butt Soup Barnes posted:

I don't watch much cable news but I thought over the past year or so MSNBC has been working to cement itself as a much more liberal/progressive network.

Is Maddow really a moderate? From what I've seen she seems pretty progressive, but like I said I haven't watched too much. And isn't O'Donnell a self-proclaimed socialist?

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When asked if she was registered with a particular political party however, she said “sometimes.”7 She describes her political views like this:

"I’m undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I’m in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican party platform.7"

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Distinguishing herself from others on the left, Maddow said she's a "national security liberal" and in a different interview that she's not "a partisan."[51][52] The New York Times called her a "defense policy wonk"

Zeroisanumber posted:

I don't know if Alex Jones has a particular political base other than the paranoid nuts who populate Prisonplanet.com. From the very little that I know about him I think he falls under the libertarian/populist banner, but his ideas are so far out and kooky that I can't ascribe them to either the left or the right.

Ray and Shirley posted:

I can flatly deny the idea that media coverage motivates the average viewer to take up a gun and mass murder because they want fame or a platform to speak.

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Loren Coleman, author of “The Copycat Effect” and a behavioral expert who has consulted on school violence for Maine state schools, argues that the recommendations prevention experts give regarding press-driven suicide contagion should apply to these types of murder-suicides as well. “Back in the ‘suicide days,’ if you put the method in the newspaper, the next series of suicide clusters exactly repeated the method,” he says. Now with mass shootings, too, he says, “we’re even having the copycat down to the type of gun.”

The American Psychiatric Association agreed with Steele and Coleman in 2007 when, after the shootings at Virginia Tech, it distributed a letter calling on news organizations to stop disseminating the murderer’s self-made promo materials. Such publicity “not only seems insensitive to the grieving and traumatized families, friends and peers of those murdered and injured, but also seriously jeopardizes the public’s safety by potentially inciting ‘copycat’ suicides, homicides and other incidents,” read the statement. The APA cited a World Health Organization Report, saying the “scientific evidence in this area is clear.” The APA also suggested that the assailant may have taken inspiration from “the Columbine tragedy.”

Terex posted:

Wouldn't this just result in mass disenfranchisement of republican voters?

redshirt posted:

This might sound a bit tinfoily, but does anyone have any info or links on documented cases where Right Wing Media is following a script, and if so, where that script came from?

cafel posted:

The guy they interview is a food writer and is obviously approaching it from a culinary perspective first, but does acknowledge that there are severe implications in regard to the safety of the food supply and truth in advertising. Not exactly the best take on the subject, but I think calling it whitewashing is going a bit too far.

Dawncloack posted:

Back during the spanish civil war, anarchist farming collectives would actually pay less to those who took any position of responsability, and demand from them the same work as the others, to fight against the temptation of going into "politics" for profit.
(I use politics in a limited sense here, obvs). That sounds like a good idea to me.

A DENVER FAX posted:

Because all soldiers are conservatives...

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AsInHowe posted:

What states are these? Confederate ones?

AircraftNoise posted:

Pretty sure the rap was done in a joking way, as if they knew it was terrible and dorky. You guys are acting like this was a legitimate attempt to get into that rap game.

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Collette’s fiery comments came after Brya again tried to delay a lawsuit challenging the state’s new right-to-work laws from moving forward. The hearing today was intended to be a routine scheduling conference – where attorneys agree to future hearings on the lawsuit – but it was unusually controversial, because Brya tried to halt the case.

Brya said she intends to appeal Collette’s decision last week in which he rejected the state’s request to dismiss the suit, which was brought by labor groups who allege the right-to-work laws were passed in violation of the state’s Open Meetings Act. She asked Collette today to stay the case until that appeal is resolved in the Michigan Court of Appeals.

Collette swiftly shot down Brya’s argument, telling her “I’m continuing on in the way I do business.”

“You’re welcome to do that (appeal), but what does that have to do with the order I issued last week that’s effective right now, which was to enter into a scheduling agreement as to whatever evidence may be available?” Collette said.

Attorneys for the state refused to sign the scheduling agreement because they don’t agree the lawsuit should proceed while an appeal is pending.

“It’s my scheduling conference. It doesn’t interfere with anything you want to do,” Collette told Brya. “All future scheduling conferences with your office will be held here at the courthouse, because obviously I can’t get anybody to agree to much of anything anymore out of the attorney general’s office.”

I see that there. posted:

So the gold market seems to be veering into collapse territory.
I sure hope all that money I sent to Rush and Hannity's advertisers wasn't wasted!

Miltank posted:

Isn't the FBI calling the mothers day shooting gang related? Business as usual in other words.

kik2dagroin posted:

Somehow this is a failure of Government instead of the companies that are supposed to be providing their employees with healthcare, our lovely capitalist healthcare system in general, and the continuing effects of our "new normal" recession.

Never.More posted:

.. you just posted that having massive national debt is a good thing because it means your creditors cant afford for you to go down. We are already starting to see the consequences of our debt, we lost our AAA credit rating in 2011. At some point the idea that we can spend / borrow anything we want and be fine ends.

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S&P also cited dysfunctional policymaking in Washington as a factor in the downgrade. "The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed."

Never.More posted:

Right but that was the whole point. The issue was that Congress wanted to raise the debt celling (amount of money we can spend) and the Republicans said no.

baw posted:

The monetary base has tripled in the past 5 years, and there hasn't been a blip of inflation because we are currently operating in a liquidity trap.

You pay back the debt by growing the economy. More growth means more revenue, without even needing to raise taxes.

baw posted:

Yes, that is the "liquidity trap" part.

Phone posted:

My uncle countered that graph with THE GOVERNMENT NEVER DOES ANYTHING GOOD or something like that.

Install Gentoo posted:

Not really, it covers very little space on the spectrum, and both bands have important other uses crowding their sides.

bigtom posted:

It is a very efficient use of spectrum given that the FM band occupies only 20 MHz of space, and the AM broadcast band even less.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

See, this is what annoys me the most. A Leftist's primary goal is to improve the lives of the working poor. Do you know what the American working poor are? White trash in fly-over country and minorities in urban environments. These are the two groups Maher focuses the most of his hate on.

You cannot actually want social betterment for the oppressed classes when you have nothing but malice for those classes. It means you have no actual moral attachment to your beliefs, you only cling to them on the assumption they provide intellectual and moral superiority to your other white upper class enemies.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

It may surprise you to know that the global poor generally think and do terrible things. Poverty and being devoid of an education are the roots of conservative extremism in any culture. The Taliban doesn't recruit from the upper class of Afghanistan, Pinochet didn't stock his death squads with urban college grads. The Sinoloa cartel doesn't hire doctors and lawyers to be enforcers.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

If you cannot, from a position of economic and social comfort, attempt to understand and empathize with how poverty can cause these kinds of behaviors, domestic and abroad, you cannot be a leftist. The poor cannot be your enemy. If you hate what the poor believe, educate them. Don't attack them.

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Lumpenproletariat is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx to describe that layer of the working class that is unlikely to ever achieve class consciousness and is therefore lost to socially useful production, of no use to the revolutionary struggle, and may actually be an impediment to the realization of a classless society.[1] The word is derived from the German word Lumpenproletarier, a word literally meaning "miscreant" as well as "rag". The term proletarian was first defined by Marx and Friedrich Engels in The German Ideology (1845) and later elaborated on in other works by Marx.

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Leon Trotsky elaborated this view, perceiving the lumpenproletariat as especially vulnerable to reactionary thought. In his collection of essays Fascism: What it is and how to fight it, he describes Benito Mussolini's capture of power: "Through the fascist agency, capitalism sets in motion the masses of the crazed petty bourgeoisie and the bands of declassed and demoralized lumpenproletariat – all the countless human beings whom finance capital itself has brought to desperation and frenzy."[13]

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Actually its the thread for mocking Right-Wing media, the propaganda engine established by cultural elites to exploit the American poor into voting against their own interests.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I would be more willing to believe this if Maher himself didn't regularly use sexist, racist, and other regressive statements himself.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

He doesn't attack these people because they are wrong, but because they are socially weaker than him.

BiggerBoat posted:

Most of them? How many are there?

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Savage has actually made a great deal of progress on the BT section of LGBT, he's not perfect but he's come a good bit from 'don't transition while your kid's in school it's selfish'.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Except that the anti-Obamacare advocates very, very frequently also advocate turning people away from emergency rooms if they can't afford the visit. I've made the point that an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure and poor folks very frequently turn up at ERs with extremely costly things that could have been prevented a few years back for a single digit percentage of the cost. The response is frequently "send them home, gently caress 'em if they can't afford it."

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The Chicago Tribune today weighs into the debate over programs linked to Michelle Obama that seek to steer patients with non-urgent illnesses out of the emergency room at the University of Chicago Medical Center, where Obama is a vice president, and into local clinics.

The Tribune notes, as originally reported on Aug. 22 The Washington Post's Joe Stephens, that some physicians and elected officials question whether the plan is as much about saving money as it is about improving care for the poor and uninsured on Chicago's South Side.

"For all its successes, though, the initiative has prompted questions from a wide array of skeptics, including a prominent Republican senator, a local alderman and some of the hospital's doctors," the Tribune reported. "They all strike a similar chord, which Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) summed up this way: The medical center appears to be 'culling the least profitable patients from its emergency room.' "

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“I was shocked to see the negligence. Needles were washed in cold water and reused and expired medicines were given to the inmates. There were people who had chance to live if given proper care,” says Hemley. He narrates incidents of an untrained volunteer wrongly feeding a paralyzed inmate, who choked to his death; and another where an infected toe of an inmate was cut without anesthesia. “I have decided to go back to Kolkata to start a charity that will be called ‘Responsible Charity.’ Each donation will be made public and professional medical help will be given,” says Hemley, who now runs a campaign on Facebook called ‘Stop Missionaries of Charity,’ and has over 2,000 members.

“We should remember that Mother Teresa was clear that Missionaries of Charity was not operating a hospital. The homes are to serve the poor and give them the basic needs,” says Sunita Kumar, wife of former India Davis Cup coach Naresh Kumar and one who has been working with Missionaries’ sisters for over four decades.

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In early 2000, Susan Shields, a former Missionaries sister who left the organization “unhappy”, created a furor by saying she herself had “written receipts of $50,000″ in donation but there was no sign of the “flood of money.” Forbes India talked to a volunteer in the Los Angeles office of Missionaries of Charity who admitted that “even when bread was over at the soup kitchens, none was bought unless donated.” A report in German magazine Stern, revealed that in 1991 only seven percent of the donation received at Missionaries of Charity was used for charity. Former volunteers and people close to the Mother House revealed that the Vatican, home to the Pope, has control over the “monetary matters” ever since Missionaries of Charity came under its fold in 1965. The control got stronger after Mother Teresa died in 1997.

When asked about how much money the Charity gets annually, the then superior general Sister Nirmala in a rare media interview a few years ago remarked “Countless.” When asked how much it was, she answered, “God knows. He is our banker.” Forbes India’s request for details was turned down at the Mother House. Sister Mary Prema, the present superior general, did not agree to a meeting.