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Kaal posted:I have to say that I rather doubt that the Lewinsky scandal is going to get much traction with the newest generation of voters who weren't even born yet when it happened. It was a GOP farce 18 years ago, and it'll only look like more of one to modern voters who have become even more tolerant of such things. Anyone who is not a Republican and would be swayed over Bill's indiscretions will probably not appreciate that what he did somehow paints her running for the office in a negative light either. Like, effectively blaming Hillary for her husband's infidelity as "gotcha" rebuke to the idea of the GOP waging a war on women is the most insane thought process.
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National balanced budgets would be an outright disaster, imagine the debt ceiling standoff stomping on a human face...forever. Even ignoring that the budget doesnt need to be balanced every FY to "balance" the budget now would be such a contraction it'd throw us back into true recession. I'm mixed on state level balanced budgets. I want to say 2/3 of the state's have them. On the one hand, states have little control over macro level fiscal, monetary, and economic forces. When I was getting my MPA I was often butting heads with people over the issue. The system as is works about okay during "normal" times but so much pain at the local level is because states and municipalities have had to impose austerity due to a drying up of stimulus (and then GOP reaction). Another issue is the credit agencies, who will pounce on any state or city because they're inherently based against governmental institutions.
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Mar 8, 2014 08:42
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Also the federal government is not built to accommodate a third party president. Nothing would make it out of the Oval Office. The president has to work through Congress utilizing his party. A third party candidate would be ineffective or like independents do now just be effectively members of one of the parties.
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Mar 10, 2014 18:13
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glowing-fish posted:This notice could go lots of places, but it certainly belongs here: I like Nate Silver but that wasn't fun reading.
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Mar 18, 2014 04:41
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Spatula City posted:Wait, there are liberals that love Scarborough? NO loving WAY. Democrats, maybe. Liberals, no. He's not a culture warrior and supports gun control, but he's still a gently caress You Got Miner and a Beltway Serious Person. I love watching his show but that no way translates into supporting him, if that's a thing.
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Mar 20, 2014 01:58
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:It's also probably just another piece of false equivocation. Since people feel the need to believe that MSNBC and Fox News are the same, observers who pretend to be above the fray just automatically assume that all liberals who watch MSNBC are just as rabid fans of Scarborough as conservatives are of Megyn Kelly or whoever. The beltway circuit probably unironically views him as a serious person, but those people aren't real persons anyways.
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Mar 20, 2014 02:16
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SedanChair posted:Speaking of giving credit to Colbert [e: in a different thread], him on Morning Joe was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen, in a good way. He proved that they are not funny or even smart, they just lob pointlessly ribald and moronic japes at one another. I never saw a table full of people so deserving of suppression. That's kind of why I watch it, that and a slight crush on mika brzezinski Cable news is so bad. Fox news basically got too grim to even casually appreciate the ridiculousness of it though.
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Mar 20, 2014 02:52
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Pfirti86 posted:Eh, only ~30% of Americans have a bachelors degree or higher. And I'm pretty sure that 70% of Americans are not burger flippers (though we do eat a lot of burgers). Really? What is this number adjusted to for age?
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Apr 9, 2014 02:30
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comes along bort posted:Prepare to be as disappointed as most people are with his presidency then, because he's not gonna piss away his future speaking career actually saying what he thinks. Obama could reveal that yes, he actually was born in Kenya and it would not diminish his post-presidency speaking opportunities one bit.
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Apr 22, 2014 00:06
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Yeah the majority of deportations are at the border, which is largely the result of increased border patrol presence, which has been snowballing before Obama even came into office. It is considered a 'deportation' if you catch the person right over the border, turn them around and have the walk back. Deportations of undocumented who have been living here is kind of more complicated, but it is more that since Napolitano DHS has either been dragging its feet in deporting people or outright just dropping cases. edit: also the legal process of actually removing someone who has been here for some amount of time is a lot longer than I think people realize. Even if Obama strolled into office in 2009 and from top down was like "We need to deport more people, now." (this isnt what happened) it wouldn't even be noticeable until like, now due to appeals. There'd have to be serious collusion with the immigration court judiciary to speed things up. Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Apr 22, 2014 |
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Apr 22, 2014 03:04
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Phoenix wouldnt be super weird as itd be in downtown Phoenix which is the center of a sea of blue for Arizona and our mayor is ostensibly a liberal Dem, but it'd probably be bad press to see all the dead drunk party delegates collapsed on the sidewalk because it will be 130 degrees out.
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Apr 22, 2014 23:31
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:I would like to believe that the average Latino voter is going to see right through his transparent pandering and look at the stuff that regularly comes out of the party he willingly associates with but not being a minority I have no idea how tokenism and obvious pandering actually plays (I'm hoping about as well as Herman Cain). I am not sure it is pandering as the Bushes are all legitimately pro-immigration, to the extent that G.W.'s immigration reform push really broke his cult of personality with the base. How much this is a personal conviction or just business minded policy who knows.
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Apr 23, 2014 15:14
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mcmagic posted:I won't believe that the worst president in 150 years' brother could get elected 8 years later. Even for as stupid a people as we are. I dont know, I think people underestimate Jeb as a candidate and Hilary has been overestimated already. But I am not certain Bush has been rehabilitated enough image wise for his brother to win yet. If the economy us doing "better" by 2016 its still Hillarys race to lose.
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May 5, 2014 21:15
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My biggest fear is basically Clinton's campaign being a repeat of 2008 and she just alienates a lot of people Obama has gathered into a national voting coalition.
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May 6, 2014 01:18
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Don't kid yourself. He's a Bush, and he's more H.W. than W. He's a top tier candidate. Yeah, if he can somehow elide the whole "brother to GWB" thing I bet, if the GOP got their heads out of their asses, would be a very competitive candidate. Not that I think he'd necessarily be a good president, but I'd worry more about him in the general than Rand "I hate Civil Rights" Paul. edit: Unlike their father, Bush's sons aren't terrible campaigners so I definitely wouldn't be "he's terrible".
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May 6, 2014 03:01
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The thing is G.W. wasn't dumb, I mean a lot of things he did were "dumb" (re: evil), but he wasn't actually a total rube. That affect made him go from the gently caress up son of a dynasty to president of the United States and even in our fallen age that's still not an easy thing to do. People would underestimate him a lot and it cost the country.
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May 6, 2014 05:12
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Nixon wasnt particularly intellectually curious but that didnt stop him from being brilliant in his own way (not in any way that really did anyone good, bit still.)
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May 6, 2014 07:05
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The most infuriating thing is how boring the whole affair was.
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May 7, 2014 05:28
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All of the internet looked bad in 1996.
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May 8, 2014 04:32
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KevinTheW posted:The main thing everyone glosses over with the Clinton affair was he was exploiting a low level staffer (and all the weird sexual harassment while he was governor). I'm sure this happens in politics all the time but it doesn't make it right and people (so called "progressive" democrats) let him off too easily on that. Regardless, this had zero to do with Hillary so gently caress all why anyone would care about 15 years later. Infidelity and exploitation of staffers is absolutely out of control in politics. it is actually far worse than I think the public realizes. There is a good discussion to be had, Ted Cruz or Rand Paul isnt that person though. Also it is safe to assume most of the elected officials making a stink over Bill's affairs probably do the same thing. None of this really has anything to do with how Hillary would be President though.
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May 8, 2014 05:36
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I am not sure if you are trying to make a false equivalncy or what, but the fact remains it is poo poo labor practice to take advandtage of your subordinates. In a just world we could legitimately argue these points re: Bill but the GOP latches on to them not because they care about professional conduct or power dynamics in an office but just bullshit. I have to think back to junior high but I dont really remember conservative complaints being of a feminist bent. A lot of male politicians, Democrats included, are power tripping misogynist nerds and it was my number one issue in my brief foray working in politics.
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May 8, 2014 08:01
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Pretty sure Dems would just legalize weed the second GOP tried to use it as a wedge to pick off young voters, making it a non-issue. Rand Paul isn't making it out of the primaries if he seriously stumped with legal pot as a plank though.
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May 13, 2014 17:20
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Arent the Pauls both really weirdly against abortion rights?
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May 13, 2014 22:51
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I'd vote for Romney. I mean, George Romney.
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May 14, 2014 17:39
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Badger of Basra posted:We'd probably have a Republican in office right now, for one. Yeah, if anything it is probably pretty good that Edwards never got into the White House. What a ticking time bomb that turned out to be.
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May 15, 2014 07:17
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The '96 campaign is kind of a blind spot to me. What was their urban renewal plan?
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May 18, 2014 22:51
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mdemone posted:There has never been anything resembling even the slightest piece of evidence that Petraeus has any interest in politics at all. I don't know where this mass hallucination came from, but apparently it's going to persist until he dies. Except from Petraeus himself kind of hinting at it? He's been embarrassed on the public stage enough by this point that he's definitely not appearing anytime soon though.
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May 19, 2014 00:08
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Considering that war, nitpicking about general decisions by Eisenhower seems silly as he was still probably (low bar) one of the best post-war presidents.
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May 19, 2014 02:07
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Besides giving people not making money food stamps is no way morally equivalent to hiring Pinkertons to infiltrate and murder unionists.
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Jun 9, 2014 18:04
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Zwabu posted:As someone who is happy to jump all over GOP pols for making remarks that show he is out of touch with ordinary non millionaire people (like Mitt's "I love NASCAR, I'm friends with lots of team owners" and McCain forgetting how many houses he owned), I will definitely say that the "dead broke" remark was terrible and incredibly tone deaf. None of this should be shocking as these routine gently caress ups are a good reason the nomination slipped out of her grasp in 2008. Fortunately for her she isnt running against Obama this time but if you felt underwhelmed supporting Obama in 2012 get ready for more and get ready for worse.
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Jun 11, 2014 00:26
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Ted Cruz' has all the social signalling of what I would conventionally consider a smart person by achievement alone but then he gets talking and Im just confused. Ben Carson is a more extreme version of that effect.
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Jun 11, 2014 18:52
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Thanatosian posted:Conor Friedersdorf wrote up an endorsement for Russ Feingold over Hillary Clinton. Is Russ Feingold actually running for president or is this just Friedersdorf being a jackass yet again
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Jun 12, 2014 18:56
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I think the only people who honestly believed people like the Clintons or Obamas gave a poo poo (as in had reservations) over gay marriage were the rubes they had to lie to over that poo poo, and even they probably didnt really buy it.
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Jun 12, 2014 21:41
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SedanChair posted:It's pretty relaxing that Clinton is inevitable because we can really criticize the poo poo out of her. But uh, let's go ahead and track down somebody who was overtly pro-marriage in, say, 2012. Somebody qualified, I mean. Barack Obama, I guess.
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Jun 13, 2014 20:11
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Zwabu posted:Honestly I don't know how Schweitzer expects to get anywhere by staking out his identity primarily as an Obama basher unless he plans to switch to the GOP and run in THEIR primaries. I was wondering if he'd backed off of this shtick since he hasn't been in the news much lately, until I read this. Yeah, "Mitt Romney youre a real mensch, not like that stiff cardboard cut out Barrack HUSSEIN Obama!" kind of just comes off as running as the great white male hope. That...is not going to work. There's not enough white people out there. edit: I mean Hillary tried the same thing in 2008 and she was much better positioned and the demographic Sword of Damocles was not yet as low as it is now. Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Jun 17, 2014 07:15
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"All southerner men are gay," said a person ostensibly running for the Democratic candidadcy to be president.
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Jun 19, 2014 16:08
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Mitt Romney is our GOP presidential candidate forever. The party is damned to strap that dog to the roof of the car until the last light goes dark in America.
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Jun 19, 2014 18:15
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Vaguely for single payer. Lied about wanting to dismantle NAFTA. Was black.
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Jun 19, 2014 18:47
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Isn't the situation with Graham that he's pretty much openly closeted? Something comparable to Janet Napolitano. They're not out but it is pretty much quietly accepted fact (Anderson Cooper and Shep come to mind as well) This would be in contrast to Marcus Bachmann who claims not to be gay but often get people joking about him. Cantor is really weird because I am pretty sure all these years Ive never heard anyone speculate that Cantor is even sexual, let alone gay. Maybe Schweitzer is privy to DC gossip most aren't, but I'm doubting it.
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DynamicSloth posted:Not quite the same with the latter two, Anderson Cooper is out and Shep Smith would by all accounts be willing to if he wasn't contractually obligated by Roger Ailes to stay in the closet. I meant before Cooper was out and before the leaking of how awful Roger Ailes is as a human being to his gay employees.
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