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DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

The GIG posted:

I'm presently surprised with the gameplay tweaks. I just got done with Shadow Chie on Normal and they were actually pretty difficult. Also I learned about an attack I'm pretty sure I never saw in the first version because I always wiped the floor with them.

EDIT: Ahahahaha Oh God the Shiroku Pub :allears:



Yeah the game seems to be more difficult than vanilla. I actually almost died on the first boss (never even came close on any of my p4 play throughs) and the first dungeon outing and I'm only playing on normal.



[e] Also it's much harder to ambush shadows. I haven't gotten one yet after hitting shadows like 15 times.

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Nov 21, 2012

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DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

How does the sos thing work? every time I get to battle it only heals 3hp and 2sp which is totally not worth the 3 seconds it takes to send the signal.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

precision posted:

P4 on Normal was really easy to me, it just depends how familiar you are with JRPG Bullshit I guess. I mean, it was easy in a satisfying way, the hardest thing was remembering what all the moon language names for skills mean when there are times you can't check (ie, while Fusing). What the gently caress is a Rakakuja?!




The coolest thing about smt games is when you play enough of them to know all the spells by heart :unsmith:


Also the spells are mishmashes of different demon names if I remember correctly.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

W.T. Fits posted:


Also, I like how Igor now just lets you see what Personas you can fuse with what you currently have equipped. Really digging all the changes to the Velvet Room here. :dance:




Yeah, it's like they took all the improvements in the devil survivor series and added it to this. Now they only need to take the ability to do it anywhere from strange journey and it'll be perfect.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Dr Pepper posted:

I just did my first fusion.


Got to pick exactly what abilities my Persona got.

GOTY.



I wish I could find out just how much my hour count is going down by not having to reload skills anymore.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

This is also a shining example of how to do a meaningful port. They added so much poo poo that it's totally worth it for even people who played the vanilla version to death. They tweaked a bunch of stuff and straight up cut out all the unnecessary bullshit like reloading skills and the shuffle time mini-game.


They also added a bunch of cool extra stuff that they didn't have to like the whole tv thing in the extra menu (which isn't just a place to view old cinematics like I originally thought it was)




[e] I'm kinda disappointed that they took out the crazy Japanese food you don't know anything about when cooking.

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Nov 22, 2012

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

W.T. Fits posted:



Yeah, I was hearing that, too... but they wouldn't do that in the main game before New Game+...

... would they? :ohdear:



I don't know about that but Teddie was really insistent on me not opening a terrifying treasure chest

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Sarkozymandias posted:

2008... the Twilight phenomenon was in full swing. Kristen Stewart was enchanting in her breakout role.

What do you think, Zach?



I agree, they totally should hire sweary to create the S-links in persona 5.




[e] Also the worst social link is the tutor one. I don't wanna hang around with a smug nerd kid.

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Nov 24, 2012

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Dr. Ohnoman posted:



fake edit: according to gamefaqs you're supposed to talk to the kid before 6/4 to trade for the bug. Welp, guess who missed that! :shepicide:



Yeah, this is probably the only thing they changed that I didn't like. I just wanna fish, why you gotta make it so obtuse when the old guy just gave you a rod in the regular version?

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Tellaris posted:

I think my favorite new feature is the shopping network can now be watched on sunday, monday, or tuesday, AND the game will remind you about it and other things that aren't outright obvious, like that you can go to your part time jobs via the bus station that day.

My favorite because I am easily distracted. "Oh, its sunday! Better go watch the sho-- oh hey, I can do a slink! Lets go do that sli-- oh snap I need fish, better fis-- oh, its raining, lets get rare monsters!"



Yeah, it's loving great to actually be able to buy poo poo of the shopping channel now.



I really like the new gardening system since it basically gives you some good items and exp for Dojima and Nanako for a little money and a evening.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

THE AWESOME GHOST posted:

You can garden without taking up time, if you just never maintain it. You still get S Link bonuses for harvesting and replanting too. The plants do stuff like take you out of dungeons or give SP so it's definitely worth paying attention to. I'm assuming the ones you get later will do some good stuff.

Maintaining your garden makes stuff ready for harvest faster and increases how much you get.




I'm only half way through and I got plants that are basically Gold keys, the elemental wall spells, and the physical/magic mirrors which isn't too shabby for a couple hundred yens. You also only have to maintain the garden the day before to get double the harvest.



[e] I also love how good some of the arcana effects are now. Magician upgrades one of your equipped persona's skills to the next tier so I got Mediarama way earlier than I should have.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

The Fisher King posted:

Any advice on which skills synergize/areimportant to have? Or just a good primer on the skills in general? Having never played these games before, I'm afraid i'll gimp myself :(

Like, I just fused some stuff to make something called a Power, and it seems badass, but I fell like I dont have enough skills for him...it..w/e

I just beat the 3rd dungeon




Also make sure you get and fuse as many of the shuffle time personas as possible. It lets you fill out the compendium and expands what you can actually make.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Schubalts posted:

Biggest decision in the game: Rare accessory, or a Growth 2 card? :ohdear:



Accessory. You get mad cards once you start getting the bonus in shuffle time for getting all the cards.



[e] This is the first vita game I played that didn't have the ugly rear end system default save screen.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Capsaicin posted:

Oh man, the boss of the first dungeon came down to the wire, but I got it just barely with a Skull Cracker from Chie!

You can kinda game the system a bit by running around on lower levels of dungeons and using the SOS feature, getting an advantage on enemies, and then running away. In about 30 minutes of game play, I was able to raise my HP/SP on all three characters up to max on my second day in the first dungeon.



Or you could just leave with a goho-m when you get to that point and continue where you left off the next day :v:

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

VarrosAnon posted:

Just started playing this, after getting my white AC Vita on Friday. I played like a week of FES, but I'm liking this a lot more. Feels more... thoughtful? The translators just did a better job on localizing this on a deeper level, I think. I do have a question though - should I be worried about using too many items? I used one when fighting Shadow Yosuke- not too much of a spoiler but I don't want to ruin it for anyone and had to use a medicine. I know it's a small deal, but I just want to make sure when it comes to items I won't screw myself over in the first dungeon or anything.



You get so many items that you'll never use in SMT games it not funny. Use whatever you want, especially if you need it to beat a boss. In general keep one of each of the elemental attack items for emergencies, keep the magic/physical walls until you met a enemy that uses mind/power charge, and try to save somas to save yourself some work on the longer boss fights towards the end of the game.


By the middle of the game you should have spells that take care of everything, so you only really have to worry about items if the party's sp runs out or if your healer can't cure people for some reason.



[e] The attack items are also good for the enemies with a all resistances and only 50 hp since they deal a set amount.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Dr. Video Games 0156 posted:

As far as I'm concerned, that fan is also her best weapon (or at least among the best) since the number of times it's useful for Yukiko to actually attack intending to do damage with her weapon is almost zero. 50 SP ain't nothin to sneeze at. Both in the base game and golden, I had her use that fan for the whole rest of the game. NO REGRETS



I'm pretty much in the same boat. The only time Yukiko needs to attack is the rare instance of a shadow being weak to physical :colbert:

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Pistol Packin Poet posted:

I'm surprised this question isn't answered in the OP: Should I buy a Vita just for Persona 4: Golden? I love this game to death. It's my favorite RPG ever. Should I buy the goddamn system for one of my favorite games of all time?



To be fair some pretty rad games are coming out for the vita next year :shobon:


That said, golden is totally awesome and the definitive version of persona 4. I normally don't like saying stuff like 'this is the best game everrr', but P4G is hands down one of the best JRPGs I ever played and if persona 5 is as big of a jump in quality as 3 to 4 then it will be my all time favorite game ever.

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Nov 27, 2012

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Cannot Find Server posted:

Just a quick bit of advice: don't romance all the girls in this game. They made it matter this time if you do. They made it REALLY matter this time :smithicide:




Does it affect you link stats if you maxed them out?

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Volt Catfish posted:

Holy poo poo, it was really only 5-ish months after?

No wonder I couldn't finish FES, I had already done everything relatively recently!



to be fair it was a value release at $30 (which was like $20 if you traded in P3)

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

I'm loving the art with commentary extra.

I hope they have some drafts of the shadows beacuse I love their designs.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

What items carry over on NG+?

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

DarkHamsterlord posted:

Why did they change it so most of the chests have shadows in them? Getting attacked almost every time I open a chest is really starting to get old.



It's great once you can kill the gold hands since the money and xp they drop are way better than what you get in the tiny chests. They also seem to have a high chance to appear when you get a chest encounter for some reason.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Larsson posted:

To the dude appropriately named "gently caress", I appreciate all the creativity it took to put together your name, but I refuse to send you a rescue request.



I wish I could get someone named gently caress. All I get are boring names with the default message :smith:



[e] I love how many gold hands this game generates especially since I just got Megadoleon on two people (one with mind charge), so I can pretty much take out however many spawn in one turn. so much gold and experience :getin:

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Dec 7, 2012

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Yeah, the tank with the flame pattern on it should totally be immune to ice and have a weakness to fire. What a dick move :(

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Do gems carry over in NG+? It seems like even though I have a ton it's still not enough to get anything but the worst store items.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

JetGrind posted:

Is there a trick to making Arcana cards appear in Shuffle Time? Is that connected to your Social Links? I haven't seen a single Magician card yet, and I just finished Kanji's dungeon.



I think some arcana are just rarer than others due to how good their effects are.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Larsson posted:

I like Yosuke more than others, but the dude kinda creeps me out. Especially when he asks to see your private stash early on in his social link. Like dude, some things guys just don't talk about.



That's ok, my stash is just a copy of witch detective since who the hell keeps a physical porn stash nowadays?

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

It's really cool how they use the "I'll face myself" battle theme from the nevermore remix albem for the marie boss fight, I think it fits way better than the normal one. It was also cool how they made the mitsuo boss song 8-bit

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Dec 13, 2012

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DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Just a heads up, Persona 4 Arena is only $21 at amazon. I'm not in to fighting games, but it seems simple enough and I really want to see more of the P4 story.

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