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ComposerGuy posted:I wish he was still doing Bond. I love Thomas Newman, but he was wrong for Bond. The Skyfall score has a few too many "THAT'S what you went with for this scene?" moments. Yeah. Newman is serviceable, but that's it. Action beats don't play much to his strengths, and Bond needs a certain majestic repetition with rock structure backing that Newman doesn't really do much of.
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Speaking of which, Man With the Golden Gun just came on. John Barry probably had the most predictable, easy, composition style, but goddamn if it didn't work fantastically in almost every film he did.
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Apr 2, 2015 18:35
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So, I just randomly came across the news that the new Spielberg movie written by the Coen bros coming out later this year... ...WON'T be scored by John Williams, but by Thomas Newman (Williams was sick). First Spielberg movie that's not Color Purple that's not scored by Williams, done by a better composer than Quincy Jones...I'm curious.
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Jun 4, 2015 18:57
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Star Trek 2009 is "I thought of one killer riff for this movie and by god if I'm not going to do it until we're all sick of it" To be fair, there are TWO killer riffs in it that are repeated over and over.
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Jun 10, 2015 14:18
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Sith Happens posted:I've been one of the big Giacchino cheerleaders in the thread recently, but I have to admit that on my first listen, I didn't think his score for Jurassic World was that great. I'd definitely put it far behind both Tomorrowland and Jupiter Ascending, both of which were big, original, and full of great new thematic material. I agree with you on this. The orchestrations aren't as interesting as up or the Incredibles, and the (new) themes are nowhere near any of his best.
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Jun 10, 2015 14:19
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Xenomrph posted:Instead of posting the usual Aliens soundtrack stuff you'd expect from me at a time like this, I'll just post this track from 'A Beautiful Mind' that I've always been a big fan of: Well, as is typical with Horner, if you loved that, you'll love this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I0pf-t08Jw Horner might have been film scoring's biggest plagiarist ever, but I still am sad to see him go. His early stuff that he re-used over and over again was instrumental in the films they were used in.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:26
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ComposerGuy posted:Horner post-Titanic (really post-95) is where he really became the reuser that he is known as now. But he had a magical decade (mid-80s to mid-90s) of extremely good and important work. He was always a re-user, he just got terrible with it in the late 90s/2000s. For example, Aliens is a mix of Wolfen and Star Trek 2 (to be fair, Cameron rushed him on that). My favorite of his is probably Legends of the Fall. He has some great ones in there (and his greats are often revisions of prior stuff, but that doesn't make them sound any less good) and he'll definitely be missed. Darko fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 17:07
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Jablonski's themes for the Transformers movies were all fantastic. I don't think I like ANY of his other stuff, though.
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Jun 30, 2015 01:48
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Zimmer uses the gradually building layers template from Thin Red Line all of the time (see "Time" from Inception for how he's matured it), but that was the most noticeable "first" time he did it. Thin Red Line was pretty influential, as TONS of composers started doing more of that after that as well.
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Sep 11, 2015 17:37
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Chaotic Flame posted:It's actually one of my favorite things in soundtracks because it usually works really well with whatever is on screen. Are there any other notable examples of this because any time I think of it I can only think of "Time" and "Chevaliers de Sangreal" off the top of my head? These are to varying extents, but they all contain elements - Much of Interstellar is built like that; just has different instrumentation style. - Leave No Man Behind from Black Hawk Down is a prime, prime example (and possibly his second best of that style, and ripped off in the Battlestar Galactica score). Things like Barra Barra in that score still use that structure as well, while being more vocal and fast pace. - The first half of Idyll's End from Last Samurai is going like it will be structured that way before breaking off into an action piece - Pearl Harbor has one in there somewhere as do some of his smaller, lesser known movies - Injection from Mission Impossible 2 - Solomon from 12 Years A Slave definitely applies That's off the top of my head; there are more.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:23
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Zimmer is touring Europe next year; unfortunate for those of us in the U.S., but oh well. http://www.themarysue.com/hans-zimmer-tour/
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Nov 5, 2015 20:26
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Braveheart and Legends of the Fall have excellent scores. Horner had a nice little run in the 90s right up until around A Beautiful Mind, where he just gave up and repeated himself over and over completely.
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Jun 30, 2016 14:22
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Sith Happens posted:Just when I thought my hype meter for Rogue One couldn't go any higher. Desplat is slightly better at building on Williams (Harry Potter) than Giacchino (Jurassic Park). It's basically a lateral move with a tiny step down.
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Sep 23, 2016 16:07
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I flew to L.A. and saw him on Friday and it was one of the best concerts I've seen live (and I've seen Williams -with- Spielberg announcing for him and say it even topped seeing him conduct) - mainly because he turned his scores into crazy prog rock insanity. Also, he's on the stream now at Coachella: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zlqov8vivE Darko fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Apr 17, 2017 04:50
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Oh, and James Newton Howard showed up at the L.A. show as well, which was an awesome surprise.
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Apr 17, 2017 05:12
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I love the new Jurassic World theme, but that's also where he tends to shine the most (often repeating themes too much).
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Apr 27, 2017 13:40
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Randy's most historically famous score piece is probably The Natural - and was actually the first time I "noticed" him at all as a kid.
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Jul 18, 2017 16:26
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Arcsquad12 posted:Digging up ancient stuff from this thread, I found a James Horner score that doesn't make me want to rip my ears off for being a complete ripoff of his earlier work. Zorro, Legends of the Fall, and Braveheart were a great run of scores in a few years. It was Bicentennial Man where he reached the rehash point of no return. I wouldn't mind Zimmer getting an Oscar for Dunkirk because some of his best scores, like Pirates: At World's End get ignored because they are attached to crap movies and Dunkirk's score pretty much WAS that movie.
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Jan 25, 2018 18:00
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I like the Pirates suite the best, but that's partially bias because I believe One More Day is his best composition and Tina Guo kills it on the cello.
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Mar 23, 2018 16:41
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I'm really curious to see what Silvestri does with Ready Player One, as he has not worked with Spielberg before. edit, oh, hes, uh, making it sound like Williams? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG-_56ZfqQk
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Mar 23, 2018 17:34
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CelticPredator posted:That score might work for the movie but it does not feel appropriate to the book. It’s too upbeat for a story so horribly boring and often gross. Most reviews said the movie greatly improved on the book. It is Spielberg, after all.
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Mar 24, 2018 19:35
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Legends of the Fall had that, and it was actually really good.
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Mar 30, 2018 00:07
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Arcsquad12 posted:I actually think legends of the fall's music is rather overblown. It's just not that good a movie and the overbearing music doesn't help. Plus being a James Horner score it still has his obsession with recycling motifs. It just me but I think the hissing scare chord he uses goes better with Zorro than with scalping Germans. He didn't recycle much in LotF. I mean, his cues, yes, but he didn't pull a Bicentennial Man/Beautiful Mind or Wolfen/Aliens thing in it. Without the dialogue and with just the "overpowering" score, the movie works really well. it plays like a silent film in that way.
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Mar 30, 2018 16:01
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Half of John Powell's scores deserve way better films. He also tends to respond to or at least acknowledge your responses on social media/Facebook, probably because he doesn't have as large of a fanbase as some other composers.
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Jul 19, 2018 16:21
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Don't remember if I recommended it earlier in this thread but definitely add John Powell on social media. He seems to be very active and shares stuff early on it and recently opened up his PMs briefly so you could ask him details in person.
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Feb 19, 2019 05:57
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Stare-Out posted:Oh that's cool. Link to any of his accounts? Sorry, missed this. Namesearch him on FB and look for the checkmark, since he seems to be the most active there. Although he early releases more on Instagram. Ans yeah, How to Train Your Dragon is his best work, and actually what he seems to put the most into, judging by how he posts about it.
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Feb 22, 2019 04:06
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CelticPredator posted:Jurassic World’s score is pretty good. It’s probably the sole reason I find the film watchable. Or at one point watchable. I haven’t had any desire to watch it since it came out on Blu Ray. I definitely agree with that. re: Rogue One; the one place the score is good is when he's composing in his own style. The sequence of the Death Star wiping everything out bridged into Vader attacking is good. Its when he was aping Williams that it suffered.
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Mar 9, 2019 14:34
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Only issue with TLW is Williams overuses the (great) main theme in the score.
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Mar 11, 2019 00:42
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I'd say the Eddie Carr sequence is the best in a JP movie, and its scored absolutely perfectly.
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Mar 11, 2019 01:35
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For Horner, I realized that you just find the pieces that recycle the most stuff and listen to it as a kind of "best of" thing. So instead of listening to Bicentennial Man, just listen to A Beautiful Mind, which recycles it and multiple other things and slightly improves on it.
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Aug 11, 2019 13:51
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I didn't like Solo's use of the asteroid theme, speaking of Solo. It's possibly the greatest piece from Star Wars and worked because it moved so well with the Falcon's movements. Just kind of jamming it in to a space scene just ended up being distracting to me.
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Aug 12, 2019 13:10
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Arcsquad12 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQBodvlbSI0 Having listened to this a few times, I think it's pretty much hands down the worst of the Star Wars scores. Copied from the spoiler thread: quote:This is easily the worst Star Wars score and I'm including Solo and Rogue One in this assessment.
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Dec 19, 2019 15:27
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Colonel Whitey posted:Yeah like Hermann and Williams are the only ones I could think of that come close. But then Williams, as great as he is, kinda has his schtick. I think he’s the master of melody and motif though. You're forgetting Jerry Goldsmith.
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Jul 25, 2020 18:26
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Stare-Out posted:Zimmer's Dune score is interesting. It worked well with the movie but on its own it's pretty weird and slightly disjointed but on the whole feels like he left his comfort zone quite a bit. I didn't love it when I first heard it, but its great in the movie itself, like you said. On the flip side, I loved the James Bond score when I first listened, and like it less after seeing the film. That final death scene didn't do it for me so that it ruined the "standard Zimmer crescendo song" that accompanied it. Darko fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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Stare-Out posted:I didn't even know that Tron Legacy got a "complete" score release last year. It's only nine extra tracks that play after the original score but hey, that's something and it's pretty great. It even has the version of "Outlands" with the organ coming in which I've wanted since the movie came out 10 years ago! My bad; I thought I had spoiled that whole line, messed up.
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