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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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alnilam posted:

I highly recommend looking through the Tree Climber's Companion, if your library has a copy. It's a short handbook and I learned a lot about knots and trees from it (it helps to have a climbing background going in).
Probably not worth buying if you just want to learn about getting ropes into trees, but worth a read if you can borrow a copy.

The Ashley Book of Knots is a also great place to start learning knots and can sometimes be found cheap used. My dad has a copy that will someday be mine.

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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Business of Ferrets posted:

Wow, that's a . . . pricey book. List price for $85, Amazon price of $50. What makes it worth that kind of money (versus just using the internet, like http://www.animatedknots.com/ )?

That is why I said to keep an eye out for a used copy. The best thing about the book is how complete it is. There is nothing wrong with using online resources to learn or even asking a friend who knows knots to show you some stuff.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Does anyone have any suggestions for hiking in Southern New Mexico? I am looking for somewhere that I can get on some less used trails and have some time alone. Preferably a place that allows fires with collected wood since I miss a good fire living in the desert.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

I've tramped around White Mountain Wilderness near Ruidoso. Beautiful and you can walk all along the ridge. Great view of the desert.

That is only 5.5 hours away which puts it just close enough for a long weekend. I will look in to that some more.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

And here: http://www.wilderness.net/NWPS/geography click on the "Google Earth" tab you can download maps of all the BLM and Foresty Service areas, including Wildernesses. National Wilderness Areas are even more protected than national parks, and there's a lot of them!

I love this already. Thanks for the suggestion.

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Feb 12, 2013

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Pronghorn have the biggest problem with fencing because they can't jump it. Also a lot of those lands were fenced when it was private and then the government obtained the land and the fences just stayed.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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I am going to be graduating in Dec and will probably be without a job, so I am coming up with cheap traveling ideas. Where would you guys hike if you wanted to avoid lots of snow? I don't mind cold and some snow, but I don't want to be snowshoeing around or stomping through a ton of it since I am a southern boy. I was thinking maybe southern New Mexico, the Death Valley area since I haven't been, and maybe start in Big Bend since I live right around there. Thoughts on places to go both in the truck and on foot?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Will it not be snowpacked at higher elevations? I could always hike portions of it. Anyone with specific sections to hit or avoid in the winter?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

That's the best time of year for Big Bend, if you ask me.

Yeah I live 2 hours from there I have been all over there in my truck and hiked a lot of the shorter trails, but nothing longer because it is to drat hot in the summer when I have the free time. I think it will be the start and then hit the Guadalupe mountains afterwards because I want to do Guadalupe peak in the snow and missed my last chance. After that my plans are up in the air and I would rather live out of my truck over moving back in with my parents.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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alnilam posted:

"They almost stayed overnight" - were they just going to sleep on the ground with extra layers, or build a lean-to, or make a garbage bag bivy sack? Or did they bring a tent?

I want to know where this took place. Not everywhere is a death trap if you stay out overnight and I have done it on purpose a few times even with limited supplies. But I still always bring at least my lightweight tarp on dayhikes because it weighs a couple oz and takes up almost no space.

Smoove J posted:

I was just researching bivy stuff yesterday but didn't really get the gist of it, what are some good bivy basics?

As an emergency shelter or as a primary shelter?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Smoove J posted:

I've got a tent, but in what event would I use a bivy instead?

Well I wouldn't carry one in this case because I would rather carry more helpful gear. I sometimes use a surplus military bivy as my primary shelter on short trips when I want to sleep under the stars or when sleeping in the bed of my truck to keep my sleeping bag from getting messed up. Then it just keeps me out of the dirt and allows me to cover up if I get a little rain. You can also get fancy ones that are basically just a really small tent, but those never really appealed to me. The emergency ones are basically glorified trash bags and I prefer a tarp for it's utility.

Here is a picture from a trip where the weather was mostly clear, but I used the sack as an extra layer of warmth and to keep moisture and frost off my sleeping bag.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Belmont Geoffrion posted:

Also, my primary shelter is usually a hammock, so a recommendation for a suitable replacement for that would be nice, as I'd expect that I might occasionally have trouble finding good places to set up a hammock.

Tarptent is how I went for the backup for my hammock so I second the recommendation.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Levitate posted:

edit: basically you want *something* underneath you that provides insulation and isn't being compressed to the point of uselessness by your body weight

Yeah this is key. I use a 3/4 length foam pad under me and my sleeping bag as a quilt with a foot box. But I also don't sleep in my hammock in very cold weather. If he has a backyard or porch he should do a couple test nights with a hammock and his pad to see if it will fit well enough.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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The Light Eternal posted:

Look up Henry Shires tarptent. That are exactly that.

Yeah and they are nice. I have the Moment because I wanted the free standing option. It is a nice comfortable tent with good ventilation and sturdy construction. I have used it in high winds in the desert where there was no windbreaks to set up behind and it performed great.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Levitate posted:

My dad has one of those too and it works pretty well, but it will gather condensation like a motherfucker in the right conditions. That's pretty much the downside to the tarptents though and something you have to decide if you can live with if it affects you

I haven't had that problem to much because I live and hike in very dry places. Just make sure the vents are open and you have some space around the bottom edge. I wonder if some models are worse than others.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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A Kpro posted:

This lake caught me off guard. I crested the ridge on the other side of it and it just appeared out of loving nowhere



I want to camp at that lake and go swimming in freezing water. Do they stock any of the high lakes in that area with fish?


Levitate posted:

Camp shot




I have the same tarptent. I want to take it there now. I wish there was more high mountains around here, but I do still love the desert.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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PRADA SLUT posted:

Stayed here the other night:

Middle of goddamn knowhere, Oregon.

So how was sleeping on that log?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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I took a river trip on the Rio Grande in Big Bend Ranch State Park which isn't hiking, but I figured you guys would like the couple of snapshots I took. We were supposed to do part of the national park, but that obviously didn't work out.

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 8, 2013

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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alnilam posted:

So let's start with lightning I guess. Lightning storm starts up! What do I do? I think traditional National Weather Service wisdom is, get away from trees and lay down in the middle of a field, but is that really the best thing if I'm 2 days from civilization and carrying everything on my back?
Lucky for me, I've never had it start lightninging while I was very far from a permanent shelter, though I've definitely been out in it in the city.

This is kind of what I learned but keep in mind that a lightning storm can last a while. However I came across a boy scout troop who had a few cases of hypothermia because they got in lightning position without putting on rain gear and jackets. So be smart and read the conditions around you also. Also when lightning strikes close enough for you to feel the charge in the ground and air it is an awesome rush.



Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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evil_bunnY posted:

That's pretty priceless.

It is a good story now, but at the time I was pissed that I had to babysit a bunch of idiots on my days off. They all did end up fine in the end.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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evil_bunnY posted:

Right. It's just so such a typical "GOTTA PREPAAAARED" situation, where indoctrinated risk management makes them ignore common loving sense. Where there's smoke there's fire, and guess what? Where there's a real risk of lightning, chances are it's dumping.

Well that is the joy of working with boy scouts. You get everything from the ultra prepared groups to crews from inner city New York who had never been hiking before and prepared by hiking up and down the stairs in their apartment complex.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Pennywise the Frown posted:



I got this Atlas 930 Starter Kit on sale for about $175. I don't know the first thing about snowshoes so I just got the starter kit to begin with. I'm in SE Wisconsin so I'm still waiting for the snow.

That looks fun. I have never gone snow shoeing but I would love to try some time. Maybe I will take a trip to the snow and try it out.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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COOL CORN posted:

Anyway, my question - does anyone use a GPS to plan or track their hikes? I have an eTrex 20 that's been collecting dust, and I'd like to use it to plan my route so I don't get off track again. Only thing is, I know how to operate it, basically, but I have no idea how I'd go about planning a route on this thing.


For something like that I would see if you can find some existing routes that someone else already planned.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Vivian Darkbloom posted:

Is there anywhere I can cheaply buy a bunch of hot sauce, mustard, and olive oil packets? I found a couple sites that will pick out the number of packets you want, but the prices + shipping are really high. This would be perfect, but you have too get 100 packets. Alternatively, how do you package condiments to take them along?

I have used this place some a while ago. They took my money and shipped me stuff no problem.

http://www.minimus.biz/

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Look Sir Droids posted:

I know this has been gone over recently, but I need hammock advice. I think my wife would like one. Not just for hiking purposes, but I'd like it to be packable just in case. I'm looking at the double ENO. I don't want a single so we have plenty of room. Is this the best choice?

Try these guys with code 'facebookspecial'. I have no personal experience, but I am thinking about getting one for a bigger hammock to have on hand.

http://hobohammocks.com/

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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bunnielab posted:

Does anyone here have a Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed sleeping bag? There is one on Massdrop right now and I am thinking of picking it up. I have been looking at them for a while and they seem to be perfect for the way I like to sleep in the hammock. It's a bit heavy but hopefully with a pad I can avoid having to get an under quilt.

That looks good. I need a new bag since one of mine got lost this summer. The reviews look good on the websites I have visited.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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bunnielab posted:

I know, it looks so awesome! But it is so loving heavy. 5 hours to decide....

I just did it. Hopefully I don't regret it, but I imagine that if nothing else it will be good for sleeping in the bed of my truck and on shorter hikes.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Suicide Watch posted:

I want to hike with my dog but he's old so I need a pack that can also carry him when he's tired :(

I also wish my dog could hike with me, but she is 14 and sleeps most of the day. So she only comes on car trips. The good news is that I may be getting another dog soon who is a younger working breed and would love to go for a hike.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Levitate posted:

People who drink that poo poo are terrible

Thank god someone else thinks that too. It is vile and not even a good mixer.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Desmond posted:

I've got one of these wine skins that I hope to put to use someday in camping trip. Right now it is just decoration in our living room.

My dad had one of these from his younger days with "Fighters by day, lovers by night, drunkards by choice." written on it in black sharpie. It was in the family camping supplies for a long time. I should get one and carry on the tradition.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Is that dog backpack awesome? I just got a new dog about that size and am going to get her a pack in January.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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MMD3 posted:

I didn't load her down with anything but dog treats this time since I wanted her to be comfortable with it but I'll work her up to carrying my first aid kit on one side and whiskey on the other :D

https://www.instagram.com/p/_0VjXBhwA2/

That's a good dog. I pretty much just want my dog to carry a little water, her collapsible bowls and enough food for an overnight trip.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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LivesInGrey posted:

What do any desert/high desert hikers among you do for water? There are no streams, arroyos are only in monsoon season and they're dangerous, and the mountains only have snow in the winter through mid spring. I'm still doing really short ones where I can just carry a Gatorade bottle or two full in my bag, but I'm trying to figure out the mechanics of longer treks.

Carry it or if possible stash water along the hike. Some hikers down in Big Bend will stash water in bear boxes or campsites near roads before the hike. If you do this write your name and the hike start date and expected pickup date on it. That helps keep people from messing with it and allows park staff to determine whose it is and dispose of it if it is old.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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jamal posted:

As far as the desert goes, unless you have a known water source along the way I would expect to have to bring it all with.

Also be sure it is actually a know source. Ask a ranger or someone who has been there recently.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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I need some help finding a decent set of trail runners. My criteria are that they must be available in 13 Wide to fit my big feet and have rugged construction since I will be in a very very thorny environment and I hate things poking the sides of my feet. Also preferably under $150 if possible, but I will pay for improved construction. Who is the current best manufacturer for us wide flipper feet people? I will be going to REI and other places to try some on, but the problem is they often only have one or two pairs in my size.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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bongwizzard posted:

I am starting to think my enjoyment of hiking/backpacking is much less about nature and more about solitude, as noting in that post about Yosemite sounds appealing at all.

I really feel about half and half. Part of it is that the busy routes and big groups separate you from nature. I would rather sit in a secluded area and actually see animals than hike in a line of people like that.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Has anyone hiked the Gila Wilderness much and in particular gone fishing while there? I am planning an August or September trip to swing through there since I miss New Mexico and West Texas since I had to move. I want to do some fly fishing in the Gila while I hike and figure I can plan some easy routes based on fishing and camping. Nothing overly strenuous so I would have time to relax and not worry about making my mileage every day. I will do the mileage when I overnight Guadalupe peak and down in Big Bend since I am familiar with them.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Hungryjack posted:

Tell me about the trip you have planned. I'm always interested to hear what people are doing at Guadalupe and Big Bend.

I am just starting to plan the trip, but I lived in Alpine and Ft Davis for a while and am going to swing back through there to see old friends. I would like to overnight Guadalupe, but I would have to do something with my dog. I have hiked a lot of the other day hikes there when I would pass through, but never got around to the peak since weather and my schedule never let it happen. Big Bend I have spent a lot of time in since I would go down on weekends when I was in school. That trip may just end up being a nostalgia trip driving down the river road and old ore road or I may hike in the Chisos.


Levitate posted:

Missing West Texas is something I never thought I'd hear said

Depends on what part. Midland Odessa or really anything north of I-10 I am fine never visiting again. Have you been in the Davis Mountains much? I lived there and I loved it. The mountains are not amazing compared to a lot of others, but they are beautiful and I have a lot of happy memories working there. Realistically I should say missing the Big Bend region and The Davis Mountains.

Not all hiking pictures, but this was my life for a while and I did plenty of hiking and riding all over that property.

My view every morning.




My last dog up the mountain.


My new dog learning to hike.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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bongwizzard posted:

OK, I was wrong about 20 miles apparently it's 35 to 40 a day which they promised will not break me. I'm very suspicious of any hobby so I have to lube my rear end up for beforehand so we shall see how it goes I guess.

I am a little excited at the idea of being able to carry so much more weight.

The big one is to make sure the bike and seat fit you. Are you borrowing a bike? It would be worth it to take yourself and the bike to a bike shop where they can fit you all together.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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PRADA SLUT posted:

For the sake of this question, let's say yes. No chest or head straps.

This has a bit of adjustability so you can set it how you like and keep it out of your way and mount on either shoulder. I have one I have used with a contour.
https://www.amazon.com/STUNTMAN-Pac...man+gopro+mount

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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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I have a down sleeping bag that accidentally got left in my truck for several months. Now it smells musty and awful. What is the best way to wash a down bag? Laundromat or dry cleaner? What detergent or soap do I want?

Unrelated, but has anyone spent much time in the Gila wilderness in Feb? I may have some available time and money for a short camping trip, but I have only really been in NM during the summer months. Also what are the rules on dogs in the wilderness areas?

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