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Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

Escobarbarian posted:

I’m only two episodes into my rewatch and I can’t believe how many times I echoed the “wait til episode 4” thing when this show is great from the very beginning and really not that hard to follow in the slightest. And it’s not like memory really helps because I haven’t seen these episodes in 10 years.

e: wow this post seems really douchey when I come back to it. also it undoubtedly helps that I’m aware of which characters will become important later in the series and which won’t.

On my 3rd rewatch and up to the gently caress, motherfucker, gently caress me, fucker episode.

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Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

Just finished my re-re-rewatch marathon. Bump's last line of the series always kills me. Where he is mumbling/grumbling "letters...numbers..."
I think Bump was the most consistently awesome character throughout the show.

Hasselblad fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Feb 18, 2018

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:

How do you rewatch the show and not know what is the name of the man :raise:

drat, twice even. I have nothing to blame beyond the cough meds. :(

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.
Omar did nothing wrong.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

bucketybuck posted:

I hated that dumbass Ziggy right up until the pivotal murder scene, and that scene is still one of the most perfect I've ever watched.

It perfectly captured that feeling of rage building in Ziggy as he is yet again treated with contempt, that out of body feeling as he goes back into the store with the gun, that release of rage when he is punching the steering wheel afterwards, and then finally the sound stops being a dull background noise and goes back to a clear stereo as the adrenaline fades and he hears the sirens and we know he is hosed. You go from hating him to feeling really sorry for him.

Its also funny how we can empathise with him there. He lost the head and did something that completely crossed the line, but the show is choc full of characters who shot and killed other people, we don't feel the same for them because they didn't react the same. It must be a "in the game/not in the game" thing but most characters in the show who shot somebody would have hightailed it out of there, ditched the guns and laid low. Ziggy just sat there in tears waiting for the police to come. I can relate to that.

What's this "we" stuff? I never one moment felt sorry for Ziggy. Hated the character from beginning to end.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.
Waterboy was on last night. D'Angelo was one of the players and was named Wallace. :tinfoil:
Also the Emmylou Harris tribute was on Axs a couple nights ago, and Bubble's sponsor was one of the performers. Never realized he was Steve Earle.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

bucketybuck posted:

As a side note on assholes, this rewatch is also reminding me how big of an rear end in a top hat Nick Sobotka is. He is a dick.

In all fairness, that entire plotline is a dick.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

Wooper posted:

Bodie gets a bad rap with regards to Wallace.
When times come to do the deed, Bodie can't quite do it. He is trying to talk himself into doing it but he can't. He is trembling as Poot :devil: yells at him to do it, startling the poor boy.
The gun goes off but as Wallace's wound was presumably non-fatal, Poot takes the gun and coldly finishes the job.

RIP Bodie :angel: Never mind the premeditation.



Poot gets off easy tho. (In internet discussions, I'm saying)

Poot was an idiot.
Nearing yet another rewatch of S1 and for the life of me I cannot grasp what Poot's "position" was in the scheme of the game. Beyond not keeping his mouth shut about others to his superiors.

Hasselblad fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jul 15, 2018

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

exmachina posted:

Those two survived.

Well, one out of two survived.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.
About halfway through S1 of Bosch. It is really weird to see Daniels, even though he is almost the same character (I am waiting for a "the gently caress did I do?" scene) and even more jarring to see Marlow as a good guy.

Where's the Bosch thread, dammit?

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

Ornithology posted:

S4 and S2 are objectively the best.

I never got that into homicide. Seemed a bit slow and maybe less serialized? Does it take a while to get into it?

Any suggestions of non David Simon shows with a similar complexity? I've heard Deadwood is great and has similarly dense writing. I've also been watching The Mechanism on Netflix which is kind of like a Brazilian take on The Wire, seems pretty good so far.

Bosch.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.
McNutty spotted in new Tomb Raider.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.
Oh god, must there be real world politics even here in this thread? :(

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

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deoju posted:

This conversation is straddling the real and the fictional, so I'm going to state my central point clearly.

gently caress Trump. Vote for his democratic opponent in the 2020 presidential campaign.

If we are doing this I would rather people support and vote for a sane 3rd party candidate so we can at least ATTEMPT to kill the 2-party system that is doing us so much good. In bodymore murderland.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Addamere posted:

Just finished the series, and I'm really happy about the positive ending for Bubbles.

Poor Dukie though. There can be only one. :(

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Basebf555 posted:

That may be, but he(and others like him)still helps prop up an incredibly flawed police department, and he's more self aware than a lot of the others. So yea he's just a cog in a machine but it's a pretty horrific machine and he doesn't seem to have much of a problem with that. He's happy to sit there every day reading his porno mags as long as the stats are what the department wants them to be, and the damage to the community that philosophy causes isn't lost on Landsman. He's just stopped caring.

Landsman is murder po lice. What philosophy are you speaking of that causes community damage? He doesn’t want the stats at a specific level, he wants them solved as often as possible. Sometimes that means passing over virtually unsolvable cases in order to close reasonable ones, or the red balls. It is triage.

In the book I suspect he is the character who allows his detectives to do their jobs in a more hands off approach, as the people in homicide earned their way into the job and are very good at it.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Basebf555 posted:

I think your description of his thought process when it comes to the cases is very generous. I wouldn't call it "triage", I'd call it "covering your rear end". His primary concern is that his unit's clearance rate stays above a certain number, and he's willing to look the other way on potential cases if it means one less open case at the end of the year on the stat sheet.

Not sure how that is not triage though? Solving what can be solved while putting those with virtually no chance of being solved on the backburner (the evidence and corpses are not going anywhere) is not simply "covering rear end".

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Jerusalem posted:

The look on Marlo's face when Prop Joe dies :argh:

I honestly cannot recall Marlo having anything other than the same look thruout the series. It is nice to see him play more than 1 dimension in Bosch.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Jerusalem posted:

Edit: Data Graham, DON'T READ THIS POST


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCaBYEEFTKE

The desperation creeping in and that horrified last second realization that there is no salvaging this situation is incredible.

Literally the same face. Makes me wonder if whatever made that large scar caused permanent nerve damage.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

cargo cult posted:

why do the plainclothes cops sometimes stick their sidearms in their desk drawers? also what whos plainclothes and who isnt? like herc, collicho and carver before his promotion all wear plainclothes but arent homicide detectives

Grips jabbing into your side when seated sucks.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Season 5 makes me irrationally angry.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

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Jerusalem posted:

You know I'm starting to suspect Idris Elba might be a talented man.

If only The Dark Tower had been good.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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I honestly have next to 0 recollection of what happened in the movie. None of it made sense and non of it was like the book.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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That's the thing, the story was simply not at all told. It was a bunch of action scenes cobbled together with neat special effects. It was as flat and shallow as Siccario II.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Jerusalem posted:

It's thrown out there a lot, but I do think a story like The Dark Tower really needs to be told in the form of a tv series.

What I wouldn't give for a season of Roland wandering through the desert, finding the doors and traveling to New York in different time periods to recruit his Ka-Tet :sigh:

Unfortunately that is something only SyFi would do and they would add their gooniness to it.
However, Amazon would likely do it justice.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Tried watching Luther. Could not understand much that Elba was mumbling. Like the Ozzie Osborne of actors.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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deoju posted:

Between the accents and words I don't know I have a hard time with some UK shows too. I just turn on subtitles.

I found that heavy drinking makes Monty Python very understandable. Perhaps that will work for Luther as well.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Nude Hoxha Cameo posted:

“He have a last name?”
“Just Omar, he don’t need no last name.”

e: And an entire scene where the dialogue consists solely of “gently caress”.

There was also “gently caress me” and “motherfucker”.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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But...is Wallace OK? Where's Wallace? :ohdear:

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

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Are we getting updates on the status of actors like Gump and Stringer Bell, or are they just perpetually infected with Kung Flu?

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Jerusalem posted:

It's a fantastic book, I think The Corner is even better and highly recommend reading it if you haven't.

Killing streets is good, but holy crap is the font smol. I literally get headaches when reading it before bed.

Hasselblad fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Apr 4, 2020

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Ginette Reno posted:

Avon also murdered his girlfriends, murdered kids, tortured and murdered people who stole from him. Murdered the working man for being an honest witness.

Less horrible than Marlo but not by much

How on earth is that “less” horrible?

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Laterite posted:


Also lol that this season of Bosch has Lance Reddick's character have a compromised past that catches up to him in much the same way it did with Daniels.

Compromised, but a decent result, as the guy became a decent cop.

It is still jarring to see Marlo and Daniels chatting in Bosch. Also binging Community, and seeing Omar as an ex con teacher saying “a man’s got to have a code” slays me.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Syrian Lannister posted:

I'm enjoying it. The actress that plays his daughter seems wooden in her first couple of seasons.

Her eyebrows bother me, as do his absurd sideburns. Very wooly. His choice of sidearm (1911) redeems his grooming.

That said it is pretty consistently good. Was not crazy about the undercover junky season, but it has enough peripheral stuff going on to help keep it interesting. I would watch a show just following J Edgar, or Crate & Barrel.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Syrian Lannister posted:

Crate and Barrel are amazing, I'm also digging Pierce and Vega.

Refresh my memory, was Vega the one dating the punk bartender? It just occurred to me he was not in this season (unless I missed him when I got up for a beer)

Mimi Rogers is good too. Gets criminals off, but is really really good at it, and does it because someone has to.

Hasselblad fucked around with this message at 00:24 on May 9, 2020

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Ginette Reno posted:

Did you forget Marlo Stanfield exists
Did you forget Avon existed?

quote:

murdered his girlfriends, murdered kids, tortured and murdered people who stole from him. Murdered the working man for being an honest witness

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Eau de MacGowan posted:

even though i know i don't like crab, somehow every time people hang out eating huge piles of crab on the wire i want to eat crab

Crab is good, however creating an awful mess and shredding your fingers getting to the meat is a pain.
There is symbolism in there or something, probably.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Ainsley McTree posted:

It's only mentioned a handful of times throughout the series but it absolutely comes up and destroys his career at the very end

I still get it confused with his dirty past in Bosch.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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Sewer-Cover posted:

There is a pretty haunting passage in The Corner where DeAndre, a highschool kid, is trying to go straight and he almost applies at a McDonalds but bails. There is definitely the element of how little you get for the hard work and bullshit compared to drug dealing, but there is also the humiliation and powerlessness of the job, the lack of money affecting social status, and the chance of being judged by a loving McDonalds manager and being found not good enough.

Or consider the McDonalds manager being judged by a random internet poster. I suspect both employees would rather be in a better position.

Hey, someone has to supply the mcribs, you know.

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Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

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The irony being that Bodymore Murderland is solidly blue. :shrug:

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