The Wire: The Rewatch... and all the pieces matter.

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Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

I have to say, as a cryptography nerd, Marlo's code is a lot better than the code used by the Barksdale organization in Season 1. I don't know if the police would have broken it in any reasonable amount of time without the incredibly lucky coincidence that ended up happening. The idea of using a widely available and inconspicuous document as a key is a good one, especially in a situation where the people using the code can be caught and searched at any time. The misdirection caused by using photographs of clocks as ciphertext is an additional nice touch. Of course, anyone with any knowledge of cryptography could come up with a much better code that couldn't be broken by luck, even given the constraints Marlo had to work with. Still, Marlo is extremely smart to come up with a decent system without any knowledge of cryptography at all.

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 01:39

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

The interesting thing about Snoop is the fact that The Game is extremely male dominated, so she has to be even more brutal to overcome that prejudice. I can't be the only one who thought she was a teenage boy whose voice hadn't changed when she first appeared. Brings up an interesting question, why are criminal organizations in general so patriarchal?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2014 06:14

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

freebooter posted:

Who was Stringer actually arranging to have hit?

Clay Davis. He wasn't going to just take getting played without retaliating, regardless of what Avon said.

# ¿ Jan 27, 2015 20:55

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

Levy masterminded that whole thing though, he didn't just happen to mention a wiretap to his ex-cop employee, file a written copy of the number where the employee could easily get it, then leave the room. He wanted there to be an illegal wiretap so he could use it to generate business and build his reputation.

# ¿ Feb 10, 2015 03:02

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

I think this scene is funnier, all you need to know is Cheese shot an actual dog:

https://youtu.be/LfsQaeIYWoY

# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 05:39

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

If nothing else, that big a stockpile of guns would attract the ATF's attention, and those guys don't gently caress around. Somebody is doing some serious Federal time for that, and it wouldn't be some random kid taking the fall.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2017 03:42

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

exmachina posted:

Just Bodie, man. He deserved a happy ending.

No, he deserved to be tried and convicted for murder. The fact that he tries to stop a psychopath doesn't make him a good person, and he never expresses regret for his crimes.

# ¿ Mar 11, 2018 12:36

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

Marlo basically forced Joe to set up a meeting after Omar robbed Joe during the resupply, since the reliability of the supply was in question. Joe correctly assumed that the connect would stay loyal to him, but didn't think Marlo would dare to kill him for it.

# ¿ Jul 1, 2019 21:33

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

Ginette Reno posted:

They didn't realize that Marlo was actually every bit as cunning and intelligent as them, but was just utilizing that intelligence towards a different goal.

Marlo wasn't that smart. He was incredibly ruthless and knew the game like the back of his hand, but that's the only area he knows. When it comes to making long term plans, he usually relies on Chris or other advisors, although they are careful to defer to him as the unquestioned leader. There are also scenes like his flight to the Caribbean to check on his money, when he asks Joe for "clean money" to give to the Greeks, or when he is unable to keep up with Avon when they meet in prison.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2019 00:45

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

Plus, you're forgetting the part where shortly after Hamsterdam went public, the federal government sent a high level official to tell them to shut it down if they didn't want their funding pulled. The power of local officials to enact real change is limited, if they do anything too radical then the people who hold real power have the tools to shut them down.

# ¿ May 17, 2020 00:49

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

I remember there was a deleted scene in Season 5 where it's implied Steintorf gives Rawls a blowjob in order to make sure he stays quiet about the serial killer being a hoax. I think the scene should have been deleted, but it does show the writers clearly saw Rawls's orientation as an important part of his character.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2020 07:20

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

escape artist posted:

I have never heard of anything like this and it sounds too preposterous too be true. Source?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFXj2zpAL1U

# ¿ Sep 15, 2020 20:00

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

I doubt it, everything in the drug game is about connections, and Poot worked under a known snitch who was killed by the king. Maybe once Marlo was out of the game, he might have gotten a job under Slim Charles, assuming Slim knew who he was and felt like doing him a favor.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2020 20:19

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

BiggerBoat posted:

My take on Frank is that he's just as caught up in the only ways to make money in a city like Baltimore as the corner boys, the cops, the politicians or anyone else. The whole show is about the system and the people it chews up and spits out.

No one is innocent and everyone is paralyzed of their free will or sense of dignity no matter how altruistic they are or how much of a code they might proclaim to have. Everyone is compromised to one degree or another and all of them bend rules, look the other way or otherwise rationalize the things they do because there are limits to the amount of power most of them have and all of them need fuckng money.

I don't think it's about the money with Frank. He wants to preserve the status quo, where dockworkers make enough to buy property in Locust Point and raise a family, passing down wealth to their kids. He sees the tide turning against him and his community and is willing to take a desperate gamble to protect them. Unfortunately, he's up against global capitalism, and no amount of cash will help him win that fight.

# ¿ Jul 9, 2023 02:51

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

The simple fact was that there wasn't any more money. Bodie and the other Barksdale people were getting their package from Marlo or Joe, they had no reason to pay Avon a cut. I'm sure he had some money put away and he had various fronts that may have been paying him a small amount, but it wasn't enough to keep paying DeLonda as he had been.

# ¿ Feb 23, 2024 20:51

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

He wasn't smart, he just got lucky with that trade. At that time, nobody could have predicted Apple would enter the market with a revolutionary product that would push most of the incumbents out. Of course, if he was a real capitalist he would have taken credit for it regardless.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2024 09:55

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 01:39

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

I don't know, Stringer's main mistakes were angering Brother Muzone and getting scammed by Clay Davis. Both of them were due to him having too big an ego, a slightly more humble Stringer wouldn't have made either mistake. His main idea of sacrificing street rep for money was working.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2024 02:09

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