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Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

Paramemetic posted:

It was discussed but since the vast majority of us in this thread not only do not but can not recognize co-masons as masons, nor discuss masonry with them, it was more or less decided that it's better to keep this thread about regular lodges and appendant bodies.

Ah, well, lapse of memory, apologies.

NPR had a fairly decent piece on the Craft on All Things yesterday. The amount of crazy in the comment thread is even fairly restrained, as far as these things usually go.

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Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.
Brethren, your cultivation of an active benevolence does you credit, particularly in the face of;


Hmm, quite. :wotwot:

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

Innerguard posted:

Nominations for the lodge this year, up as WSW from WJW.
Nominated for 2nd Principal in my RAC, too.

Going to be a fun year of planning and preparation. Advice for what lays beyond heartily welcomed either here or PM.

Congratulations. My chief piece of advice would be to start planning your year as WM if you haven't already. Otherwise, continue as you have and support the Master and the lodge.

My own lodge is coming back from our summer break this Tuesday, and as I humbly remain in the harness as Secretary for another year. My own agenda for the upcoming year is to be better organized, get a proper funeral committee running smoothly and to ruthlessly stamp out the use of the word "Brothren".

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.
Brethren, I propose a motion to Postpone Indefinitely discussion with Sithsaber until such time as they are able to produce a valid dues card in their own legal name from a Lodge under the jurisdiction of a Grand Lodge in current amity with the UGLE.

Also;


Well, bless your heart.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

Emron posted:

So I'm learning the last lecture I have left to do, the EA. There's a point in it where (without revealing anything here) I talk about [a thing] "embordered by two parallel perpendicular lines." Aren't those opposites? The imagery is clearly two parallel lines. Am I missing something here?

Imagine that the two parallel lines are perpendicular to a third segment "below" them and oriented east - west if they're oriented north - south. If your lecture includes reference to the Sts J., imagine that they need a place to stand.

Put another way, if you were to land a Tie Fighter on the deck of a spaceship, the wings would be parallel to each other and perpendicular to the deck. I'm aware that Tie Fighters are generally held in racks and don't usually land on a deck, go with the analogy.

This is only relevant as a mnemonic aid though and I can't tell you why it is interpreted as such, despite that being one of my favorite symbols. I usually imagine it being drawn on a flat plane with the compasses.


edit: grammar.

Glorified Scrivener fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Oct 16, 2014

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

Emron posted:

I like that, too. That's a symbol that is surprisingly deep in its varied interpretations. I'd love to take it to pm if you'd like to nerd out about it.

Digging around a bit, Mackey's interpretation of it is very... Mackey, but the Masonic Service Associations short talk bulletin on the subject is really good and touches upon the relevant geometry. I've sent the text of that by PM.

I've really got to get our lodge reading more of the Short Talk bulletins, they're a really good place to start a discussion.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

Loomer posted:

It's specific to the PH GL itself, so presumably a lodge of PH masons operating in a state where they are not recognized by that GL - say for argument's sake, Montana - would still be recognized so long as they're operating under the jurisdiction of the PHGL for Montana or Iowa or whatever.

To be detail oriented and pedantic (as I am a lodge Secretary after all), I'll point out that since 1999 in Montana we are in full recognition with the Most Worshipful Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Oregon, which holds jurisdiction over Prince Hall lodges in Oregon, Idaho and Montana. I'll double check the recognition book next time I'm at the temple, but I've been told there's a PH Lodge in Great Falls. I hardly ever travel in-state though and so haven't been to visit.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

Noctis Horrendae posted:

But surely there's some sort of legal label applied to Freemasonry as a whole?

Freemasonry varies in its structure from State to State in America and from country to country elsewhere. So there isn't really a way to label Freemasonry as a whole.

In the United States Grand Lodges and Lodges are generally considered 501 C (10) organizations by the IRS, insofar as I am aware - I'm sure that there are exceptions. This is because Masonry isn't generally an insurance or benefit organization. I'm sure that certain Masonic Charity Foundations and bodies have other classifications.

I have no idea what the appendent bodies are classed as. I'd guess 501 C (10) except maybe Shrine International.

Refer to http://www.irs.gov/Charities-&-Non-Profits/Other-Non-Profits/Fraternal-Societies for the IRS guidelines.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

Colonial Air Force posted:

I'm pretty sure I remember both the Lodge I was Raised in and the lodge I transferred to stating they weren't NPOs at all.

Yeah things do vary from place to place. As a Lodge Treasurer in New Mexico we filed as a 501 C (10), by Form 990-N because our assets were well under $50k.

Here in Montana I think its the same, but I'll ask my Lodge Treasurer next time I see him. The lodge I belong to now has a lot more in the way of financial assets, including cash, investments and majority ownership of the building we meet in, so I know the tax return is substantially more complicated.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.
The new issue of Knight Templar magazine has a pretty interesting article in it - "Masonic Philosophical Differences in the 21st Century". I think it'll be good for starting fights spurring discussion in my lodge's email list. If nothing else it does an excellent job of defining the terms of current factional splits I see in the craft.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.
And in today's new about fake Masonry.

The ‘Masonic Fraternal Police Department’ is not a real police department, police say.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.
In lodge for the first time in a year - the Master called me out of the blue to ask if I could help with a 3rd Degree.

I might not have said yes if he'd said they had six candidates. At least now it makes sense they they scheduled this for 9 am on a Saturday.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.
Any North Dakota/Western Minnesota Brothers in the thread? I'm relocating to Fargo, ND shortly and if the GL website is to be believed, they have four lodges in town. I'd be interested in thought about lodges in Fargo and Masonry in the region.

Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

Emron posted:

Buddy, I’ve got some bad news about most American masons.

(In Ohio, almost every Mason I’ve met is a relentless right wing partisan, especially online. A PGM of the state regularly posts things that come close to “liberalism is a mental disorder” type stuff. It’s really off putting, and the level of spite I see regularly from my brothers is something I struggle with in Masonry)

Honestly this the reason I stopped attending Lodge in Montana and have been dragging my feet about checking out the one's in North Dakota now that I've moved.

I had an older Brother tell me they would have blackballed my petition for affiliation if they'd known about my politics. I should have known better than to try to explain why Obama wasn't a socialist, but still...

The other thing that's been getting to me is a tendency of some to interpret brotherhood in some really MRA like ways.

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Glorified Scrivener
May 4, 2007

His tongue it could not speak, but only flatter.

jrgnsn_tjf posted:

Hi Gents,
What are your best memorisation techniques?
Keen for any advice. Take care.

I break the part down into chunks small enough to memorize, usually a sentence or two, sometimes a fragment if the language or phrasing is unusual, and repeat it aloud or silently until I have it memorized. Then I move on to the next chunk and once I'm comfortable with that I'll string them together, focus on the transitional language, then add the next bit and repeat, building a larger and large chain. Usually there's a tipping point where you have enough momentum, so to speak, that it becomes easier.

I've often thought there's got to be a better way, but this works for me so I've stuck with it.

Also for things where you have a bit of freedom to gesture or in your floor work I'll recite the part while practicing the motions, as it can be a useful cue to memory. e.g. a sweeping hand gesture toward the brethren to indicate universality, touching your chest to indicate a duty to oneself, etc.

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