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I'm a male goon, but I can talk a bit about OES. The Order is strongly oriented to women related to Masons, but men who are Master Masons are allowed to join. There are actually two positions that are male only, but it's mostly a symbolic thing. Overall it's pretty vanilla for an associated body with a similar officer structure, a bit more tied to the Christian Bible but doesn't actually require a specific religious belief. Initiation is a lot less fun though. Nobody goes for the full 8 seconds or anything like that.
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Go convince a couple thousand crotchety old men to let women into their secret club and then you can be a Mason. Until then, you can't be a Mason. Unless you want to be a French Mason.
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Apr 14, 2013 22:58
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Crap, that's true. Web of recognition and everything.
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Apr 14, 2013 23:06
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I've never met a mason who's had his affiliation aid in doing business, but otherwise you're exactly correct.
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Apr 15, 2013 18:02
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Also if you draw the long straw at the monthly meeting you get to enjoy the high intensity high reward world of goat farming!
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Apr 15, 2013 18:43
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The prohibition on the disabled is a holdover from when Masonry was actually a guild for stoneworkers, as I was made to understand. Seeing as the guild was also a sort of social security system, allowing in those who couldn't really work in order to have a safety net was seen as undesirable. Considering the work that Masonry now conducts, no one could really be considered disabled in the unable to work sense.
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May 15, 2013 17:46
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Hilariously enough, we can also join regular lodges and not be sexist.
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May 15, 2013 19:03
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Guys I just tried to join the Red Hat Society but they just laughed at me. Are they a sexist organization?
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May 15, 2013 20:21
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OES is not only co-ed, it's fun and you guys should consider visiting your local chapter!
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May 30, 2013 19:35
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It'll be interesting to see how the other state Shrines react.
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Jul 1, 2013 22:27
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I'm not a new Brother and I think that's bullshit, so you're not alone.
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Aug 29, 2013 21:29
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TemetNosceXVIcubus posted:It's hard for non masons to understand what the job of the Secretary entitles. If you think Mad Men style, then they're there to take notes and look pretty. This is true of all associated Masonic bodies as well, which is why you'll have OES Secretaries who've had the job for decades and know the by-laws inside and out. Getting elected Secretary may be the hardest work a brother does for a lodge.
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Aug 30, 2013 13:28
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I would say that if you have any body piercings you may want to take them out, so as to not spook the goat.
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Sep 9, 2013 13:29
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redeyes posted:I think that is what I meant. And the guy did make it clear they don't invite people, just that I should look into being a member and he would vouch for me. I feel honored but alas, I don't fit into this type of thing. Well, at the very least you know that guy thinks you're a great dude.
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Sep 9, 2013 19:43
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It would be right behind "uncover the secret NAACP/Zionist/Feminist Plot to Kill America" as the worst reason to join. The ideals of Masonry make using the organization to get a leg up as ineffective as it would be distasteful.
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Sep 12, 2013 20:00
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The trick is to get books on Goat Care and Leather Maintenance but only read them after you're initiated so you can get to work ASAP.
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Oct 2, 2013 23:33
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All will be revealed, don't stress about it. Although you may want to bring some deodorant. Also, take out your nipple piercing before you show up.
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Oct 3, 2013 02:53
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Welcome, Brother! Just take care of the goat and keep your ears open, Masonry has had a bit of time to get the process of familiarity down.
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Oct 4, 2013 07:25
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Do you have a burning desire to join the world's oldest frat (by average age of member)? Because it's not just clowns, oh no. And the clown thing is sort of tangential. Most people think of Shriners as tiny hats and tiny cars.
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Oct 4, 2013 17:49
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Don't go to the Shrine circus, I'm pretty sure the Shriner clowns don't show up to regular meetings in paint. Maybe, by befriending these men, you can overcome this clownfear.
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Oct 4, 2013 18:03
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I'm really just eager to add "Help you get over your fear of mimes and other entertainers" to my list of Things Masonry Can Do For You.
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Oct 4, 2013 18:07
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Masonic politics (in the brotherhood and also the various appellate bodies) is boring as sin until you reach about 70 years of age when it becomes deadly important because...? It's distracting to our stated goals but it just keeps growing. Ask me about having a Masonic Home Board for a year after dissolving the Masonic Home sometime.
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Oct 10, 2013 11:21
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I personally have never known an entire lodge without at least a handful of brothers who were a boon to the craft.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:02
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The thing to remember is that Masonry, despite our goal of improving ourselves, is no less susceptible to incorrect intent and action than any other organization. There will always be Masons who have joined for the wrong reasons, just like police officers and teachers and anything else. And while it can be disheartening when we see those members in a position of power we must remember that this is not the norm. For every lodge with some brother cooking books or refusing to recognize Prince Hall lodges or rowing with the Shriners there are dozens made up of men who are there for the right reasons. I'm certain you can find one.
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Nov 11, 2013 17:38
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1. It is not and I would say that sort of restriction would be against the laws of the OES, but maybe your area has a bylaw that allows such interpretation. That is not how Star should be. 2. $8.50 compared to my lodge dues of $45, but that will vary between districts and states. 3. No, you don't get marked with the secret shame sign for not getting into a chapter. To be honest, I've never known someone not to receive the signatures unless they were arrested after petitioning. OES is a great organization and I hope you find yourself enjoying a membership soon.
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Nov 22, 2013 04:30
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What kind of Podunk lodge uses a mechanical goat? That's straight up some poser Oddfellows business.
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Nov 28, 2013 11:38
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Have another coworker who's also a Brother talk to him? A prompt reminder from a fellow member of the craft might have more effect.
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Dec 2, 2013 00:34
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Is your boss aware of what his son is doing? If not, telling him would probably stop that poo poo on a dime.
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Dec 2, 2013 15:49
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The more orders and temples and lodges you're a member of the greater chance every night is barbecue night.
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Dec 3, 2013 03:11
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vortmax posted:One of my good friends just became Worshipful Master of the Federal Lodge #1 in DC. Just from what you guys say here, I understand that's a big deal. But what does it really mean? Basically your friend's fellow Masons decided that, for the year, your friend is the guy who leads the lodge.
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Dec 11, 2013 06:31
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Read the thread, got interested, then remembered my last Pope really hated you guys and my current Pope hasn't had enough time to say anything about it. So I'll be sitting on the sidelines. Knights of Columbus are as a general rule a pretty cool group so you'll probably enjoy it if you would enjoy Masonry at all.
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Dec 15, 2013 01:48
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I doubt Francis will make a statement on Masonry if only because he's got a bigger agenda to work on.
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Dec 15, 2013 23:30
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It's only temporary. There will be times you'll be sad about that and times you'll be happy for it, but eventually someone else is going to be WM and take up everything you've been doing.
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Dec 17, 2013 17:00
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Isn't there some precedent of masons who began to transition after becoming a brother being allowed to continue in the Lodge? Obviously if you had begun your transition beforehand, you would be ineligible.
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Jan 19, 2014 17:01
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Take a look at the second Jobie req. Job's Daughters need to have a Masonic relative of some stripe, Rainbows do not. EDIT: The OES is absolutely run by women. The only positions that can't be filled by a woman, the Worthy Patron and Associate Worthy, don't do much of anything except when initiating new members. Mr. Maltose fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Feb 23, 2014 06:38
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A view also held by most non-brothers who aren't raging assholes.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:53
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I can't tell if you're a ratfuck insane conspiracy theorist or just someone who thinks they know far more than they do. Must they be exclusive?
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Apr 14, 2014 21:15
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Angry Birds Suicide posted:Cut me some slack man that took almost 4 hours and I'm exhausted okay Ah, I remember when the goat RUNNING was the problem.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:47
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Arguing about what to eat next meeting.
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Loomer posted:Recruiting the brethren to handle some of the Lines would allow me to pick both! I'll just have to create a faux appending body to do it.The Order of the Ivory Canid, or some such. Shriners But With Dice Too.
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