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Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Are there any goon Masons in NYC? I'm gonna be moving down there next summer, so I'll be looking to join a new lodge. I'm taking my first degree on wednesday in a lodge upstate, and while I like a lot of the guys in the lodge, they're mostly old Republicans. Are there any lodges in the city that have more young people or a bit of an intellectual bent in its focus?

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Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Greetings brothers. I'm about to take my second degree in my mother lodge (upstate NY), but sadly I will be moving to NYC a few months after my third degree. Do any of you guys have any experience with the numerous blue lodges in Manhattan and Brooklyn? How would you describe the culture and approach to Masonry of them?

While I appreciate the brothers of my mother lodge, it is a rural area so they're predominantly conservative older guys. Masonry has been a great way to break down the toxic political barriers that would otherwise have ensured we'd hate each other (I'm a socialist), but ideally, I'd like a lodge with a higher concentration of more progressive young people. Or maybe even something wacky. Like I heard that Shakespeare (?) lodge is primarily for actors, and while I'm not an actor per se, I'd love to attend a degree to witness the more refined theatrics.

Edit: Damnit I forgot I already posted this.

Cimber posted:

Join Garabaldi lodge! They do all their ritual in italian, and their 1st degree is something to behold.

I live on Long Island, so i dont know of any lodges in NYC, but there are I think 8 Masonic districts for Manhattan alone.

My mentor told me about that! Sounds wild.

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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I'm an anthropology student and I'm conducting my ethnography on my local lodge. I've mostly been focusing on gender performance in the lodge room, during cook outs, and during poker nights, but I also connect the development of a Masonic identity with an American national identity. Also, if any of you are familiar with anthro, Victor Turner's Rites of Passage is so drat on the nose when applied to the first degree.

Anyway, would any of you be interested in reading it in a couple months after it gets published?

In the meantime, here are some dope ethnographies on Freemasons that have expanded my understanding of the brothers I hang out with and the fraternity overall.


Freemasonry as a playground for civic nationalism by Danny Kaplan. About Israeli Freemasonry and the power and limits of a "universalist" organization. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nana.12066/abstract

The World is a Forest of Symbols. About Italian Masonry, secrecy, and women in the lodge. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1548-1425.2012.01373.x/abstract

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Keetron posted:

And yesterday we had our night for non-masons and I made some platters and I want to show them off.



Become a mason, have some meat and cheese with us! That was more or less my message. I think they got it.

drat that looks nice. My lodge mostly busts out a supermarket platter of cheddar slices and chex mix.

They got wonderful whiskey though. However, they drink it out of Dixie cups.


Anyway, I just had my second degree at a neighboring lodge, and I did it with a few other stand-up guys. I was really pleased that one of the brothers was a person of color. I live in a rural, predominantly white area, and the local lodges are sorely in need of more diversity. My mentor told me that the first black guy to petition my lodge did so in the 1980s, and a few of the brothers had a problem with it. But he said "This guy is a hard-working S.O.B, I don't even see him as black" (yikes!).

The lecturer was really on his game that night too, but the Junior Warden flubbed his lines a bunch and an old Mason next to him constantly corrected him, which was pretty funny. I'm really interested, both for my thesis and in general, in how the ritual has changed over time. The wording seems to be constantly re-negotiated in each lecture, and I've noticed some brothers knowingly and willingly modernizing their language, much to the chagrin of some of the older guys.

I was surprised that we didn't need to recite the first lecture or prove our proficiency. The Worshipful Master just took our Masters' word for it. Have you guys experienced something similar?

Also, I don't quite understand the purpose of the passing grip and the true grip. Should I use the passing grip if I'm unsure if the hand I'm shaking belongs to the Mason and only use the true once that's been confirmed?

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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So I'm opening my senior thesis talking about Homer the Great, National Treasure, and The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown. I also talk about SA and this thread in the intro section.

Truly signs of the decadence of the academe.

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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By the way, why did y'all decide to become Masons? Particularly those of you who are more liberal than your lodges?

Roughly, how old are you? Are you married? If so, did you join before or after you tied the knot?

Head Bee Guy fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Apr 15, 2018

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Are skulls a Masonic symbol? I saw an ad on facebook for a Masonic ring that was a square and compass embedded in the forehead of a massive skull. It looked p Nazi-ish or like the Punisher logo. The comments were split between "this is not the Freemasonry I know" and "badass, brother"

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Hey brothers, I just submitted my senior thesis. If any of y'all are interested, here is a dropbox link. I also talk about SA in the introduction, which is one of the more goony things I've ever done.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sh1zb5cbmegw7n7/Head%20Bee%20Guy%20Masons%20Essay.docx?dl=0

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Any NYC Masons ITT? Looking to join a lodge but I could use a rundown on my various options. I reckon the various lodges in the GL building have different focuses and cultures and whatnot.

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Anyone attend any lodges in NYC? Been considering getting back into Masonry, but there are so many lodges in the Grand Lodge in Manhattan, I don’t know where to begin.

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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I’m a 3rd degree, but I haven’t been involved or paying dues for a few years. I’m in a different stage of my life now, and I miss the camaraderie and goofy craftsmanship symbology.

Does anyone have any insight on the different lodges in NYC I should check out? There are a LOT in that grand hall in Manhattan, and I’m not sure what flavors they come in.

Also, has anyone been to a clandestine lodge, accidentally or intentionally?

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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deported to Canada posted:

I don't see how any clandestine lodge could claim for their ritual to be more pure, that seems like a weird thing to say, paradoxical really. They literally have been shown the door for their lack of regularity or never even ever saw the door in the first place. I suppose if you didn't know any better you might fall for the "they just hate how original and cool we are" but the slightest bit of critical thinking would be enough for most to know they are full of poo poo.

I think it poses interesting anthropological questions, which is why i got into masonry. To regular Masons, they’re ausländers, but I wonder if they feel that way. What do they get out membership, the same things that mainstream Masons in this thread and my home lodge report (camaraderie, connection to history, charity, a feeling of belonging)?

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Anyone been to any lodges in manhattan? I haven’t been active in about five years, but i’m curious what they got going on in the city. There are a ton of different lodges at the Grand Lodge, and I’m trying to sus out the vibe of each

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Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

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Cimber posted:

I am on Long Island so I don't know any specific lodges there, but I know a guy who works at the library. If you can get a tour of the Grand Lodge building you absolutely should, its amazing.

Oh, Garabaldi lodge is doing a 1st degree soon in Manhattan. You really should try to get tickets to see that, its very different from any 1st degree you've ever seen.

is that the one done in Italian?

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