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Zodack posted:So I'm looking to make my first upgrade to a new TV after sitting on a rather old 20-something inch from college. Now that I'm gainfully employed and have a budget (and a PS4 Pro, etc) I've done a bit of research around my budget and the Sony XBR55X900E seems to be a good 4k HDR 55" widely agreed upon to be good for gaming (or at least it keeps popping up when I read those kinds of articles). bull3964 posted:That's a good price and I wouldn't expect it to drop much further until May when they start clearing out the 2017 models for 2018. Only the 75 inch model of the x850e has an IPS panel, the 65 inch has a VA panel like the x900e. The difference in price comes mainly from the different backlight technology featured in the two sets. The x850e is edge lit (one strip of LEDs at the bottom of the screen that lights the entire panel), whereas the x900e has a full array backlight (LEDs are behind the entire screen and not just at the bottom). This difference translates to higher peak brightness on the x900e which is important for HDR content and a better contrast, as the x900e can turn off parts of it's backlight to make some parts of the image dimmer while having other parts stay fully lit, the x850e can only dim the entire at once.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2017 18:46 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 04:44 |
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Upgrading from 1080p to 4K implies a more substantial difference than upgrading from 1080p to 2160p or even 2K to 4K, as it is a quadrupling of numbers rather than a doubling.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 17:53 |
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Anyone familiar with bias lighting like this: https://www.amazon.com/Antec-Lighting-HDTV-51-1-Inch-increase/dp/B007TG5EG8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1513805833&sr=8-1 ? I watched IT in a darkened room tonight and noticed how grey my blacks seemed in a lot of scenes, I wonder if that thing might be able to alleviate that perception somewhat.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 22:39 |
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veiled boner fuel posted:So you think Samsung regressed between 2016 and 2017 or you think other manus advanced more rapidly which would make the KS8000 even more dogshit than 2017 Samsungs? The former, Samsung sort of split the KS line into two, the MU8000 and the Q6, one of which is the same price but worse and the other is more of a real successor but also more expensive.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2017 07:29 |
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Basticle posted:Hi, the OP seems pretty dang out of date so forgive me for not reading the whole thread, is there a current go-to-pick for ~52" 1080p to be used exclusively for Netflix and Blu-ray? 1080p TVs aren't really a thing anymore and without knowing your budget, the only recommendation one can make is the LG B7 or C7 as it's the best TV regardless of use case (save for exclusively watching HDR in a brightly lit environment). Incessant Excess fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Dec 22, 2017 |
# ¿ Dec 22, 2017 22:23 |
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Basticle posted:Oh, lol Take a look at the Vizio E50-E1 or see if anything else from here strikes your fancy, it's a pretty good resource: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-price/under-500
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2017 22:32 |
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I believe the black level doesn't really matter as long as both, TV and source, are set to the same one.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2018 15:07 |
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LG's OLEDs are fantastic, their LCDs are poo poo cause they use IPS panels that just aren't very good, likely cause LG's r&d focus is on the oled division.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2018 23:10 |
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Rastor posted:The ASUS ROG Swift PG65 is a 65-inch 4K display with 120Hz refresh rate, 1000 nits brightness, full-array local dimming, and nVidia G-Sync support Note that this seems to lack a TV tuner, making it a big monitor rather than a TV.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2018 16:36 |
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Rastor posted:The smarts are powered by an nVidia Shield I'm a bit confused. Does the regular shield have a network tuner built-in or is it an attachment you can buy?
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2018 16:39 |
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Rastor posted:Apparently besides ASUS, Acer and HP will also be making these nVidia Shield gaming display things. Man, that is one stupid looking stand, however, it's not even the worst one: Having that tacky PC gaming look on a desk is one thing but who would want that in their living room. Absolutely hideous. EDIT: Here's the HP one, the least offensive looking one imo:
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2018 20:50 |
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Residency Evil posted:When do these generally come out? I believe you'll see the mainstream model (C8 rather than the B8 as that one has been gimped a bit) in the spring with the rest of the lineup in time for the world cup in the summer.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2018 21:05 |
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bull3964 posted:Nividia said that they are targeting even the very large displays to be sitting on the desk. These are not intending to be living room TVs. Why does it have the shield and streaming features then?
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2018 21:56 |
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Rastor posted:I think probably nVidia saying "these are not intending to be living room TVs" can actually be translated as "we are not going to compete on price with other brands of TVs, these are XXXTREME GAMERRR products and there is an accompanying markup" 65 inch full array local dimming alone means this thing won't be cheap. Gonna be interesting if they price it higher than a 65 inch C8 OLED.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2018 22:25 |
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3 seconds sounds about right for my Sony as well if I had to guess.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2018 07:08 |
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Rastor posted:The X900E sets are followed on by the X900F series. They are now available in a wider range of sizes (49, 55, 65, 75, and 85 inches). They get the X1 Extreme processor instead of the X1 non-Extreme. And they get Dolby Vision support. That mean no more X930?
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2018 04:54 |
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Looking at two Sonys at the moment, both 55 inch: XE900 for 1220 Euros XE930 for 1460 Euros Trying to decide if the 930 is worth it for me. I like the idea of higher brightness and deeper blacks due to the better local dimming but I'm kinda torn.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2018 16:14 |
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qirex posted:I wonder if the X900F will have 3 or even 4 fully usable HDMI ports. Is there a huge per port license fee or something? There's a lot of hardware with some HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 ports. Jeez, here I was thinking only my X850E did that since it was an entry model and all.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2018 19:22 |
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Doom Rooster posted:So my bedroom TV finally died. It was a 1080p Samsung from like 8 years ago that has been great. Maybe check to see if the bezels on the Sony 49X900E are small enough to fit? I believe it's the best TV under 55 inches and it's on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR49X900E-49-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B01N284JCN The smallest TV OLED is 55 inches by the way, so it's not just Amazon that doesn't have them.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2018 19:31 |
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comper posted:It doesn’t have the same chipset as the C8 and the other higher-end models which has been touted as the new main feature this year for motion processing and I’m sure overall OS snappiness. Exactly. Also note that that wasn't the case for the 2017 lineup, where all the chips were the same.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2018 02:08 |
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smackfu posted:What’s the typical setup people use nowadays? Input sources plugged into TV then an optical output to an amp or sound bar? This is how I roll. Pretty basic but it allowed me to keep my peripherals when upgrading to a 4k TV.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2018 14:17 |
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Having read and watched reviews, not owning an OLED myself, I think you need to be closer to the videophile end of the spectrum than the casual end. Overall the OLED is better but in certain areas the X900E has an advantage (motion handling, peak brightness).
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2018 20:45 |
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Godinster posted:Is there any reason to wait for the 2018 LG OLEDs if I can get a 65" B7 for $2950ish Canadian? I'm using a 5-6 year old mid-tier Samsung plasma and the advent of 4K/HDR Linux ISOs flooding the internet right now has my interest growing at maybe upgrading. I think the support for black frame insertion is the biggest new feature of the 2018 models, supposedly makes motion handling a lot better.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 04:50 |
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defaultluser posted:But it will come at the cost of even lower brightness, which is already an issue for OLED. I think peak brightness is getting a 20% bump but don't quote me for that.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 07:04 |
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Can someone explain to me how local dimming works exactly? I know the basics (TV can dim individual parts of the backlight, not just the entire thing at once) but I'm curious when exactly it activates. Is it just for completely black sections of the screen, like the black bars of a 2.35:1 aspect ratio movie for example, or does it also work when you're, say, playing a racing game and a dark blue car drives past you?
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 09:29 |
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Thanks, interesting stuff!
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 14:06 |
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I believe current OLEDs can reach about half the brightness of top tier LEDs, that's still a pretty significant difference.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 15:55 |
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I find it quite pleasant on my Sony, still gets more than bright enough too but I tend to watch in dark environments.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 16:05 |
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Mercrom posted:That sounds awesome. That one costs a bit though. I'll check rtings for cheaper alternatives. I think the next step down is the X850E which features the same image processing chip and thus the same motion handling capabilities. You miss out on the direct backlight and the full array local dimming that comes with it tho, which is a pretty big deal feature.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 19:56 |
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That's a good price.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2018 21:18 |
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There's also not a huge difference between LG's 2016 and 2017 OLEDs so if the price is good enough, and I reckon this one is, no harm in buying.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2018 22:00 |
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I'm looking into replacing my X850E since I'm not really that impressed with it's HDR performance and there's two TVs I'm closely considering: Sony 55X930E - 1450 Euro LG 55B7V - 1590 Euro I'm wondering if the higher price on the OLED is worth it as I'd already be on the high end of what I'd like to spend with the Sony. Mainly looking for HDR performance in both, movies and videogames.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2018 16:28 |
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LG B7 is the best 55 inch TV you can buy with your budget so this seems like a pretty easy choice.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2018 18:59 |
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You don't really see a lot of people saying I regret spending money on an OLED or something similar.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2018 21:47 |
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Roundboy posted:Same boat. FedEx just dropped off my lg oled. Didn't even calibrate or change any settings yet and it's awesome. The viewing angles are insane too I see these recommended pretty often for the B7 series, the guys at AVS Forums generally know what they're doing: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/2853954-lg-2017-oled-calibration-thread-settings-22.html#post54906032
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2018 21:12 |
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For folks with a 7 series OLED, what kinda OLED light setting are you using? I'm using the ISF dark room picture mode and had to turn it down to a lil under 50.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2018 19:29 |
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I think TVs maybe do some motion processing that monitors can't do because it would add input lag. I certainly can't say that I noticed anything as bad as the gif you posted on past VA TVs I've had, being further from the screen than with a monitor might also be a factor.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2018 20:15 |
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Pretty hefty jump for those last 10 inches, but I guess the bigger you go the more difference a couple inches make.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2018 20:56 |
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I get a general question that might be a lil stupid. If I got a soundbar hooked up to the HDMI 2 port say, is it possible to get the video from a device on HDMI 3 with the audio still coming from the soundbar on HDMI 2? The TV in question is an LG B7 in case that matters.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2018 15:46 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 04:44 |
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Don Lapre posted:Do you mean you have a soundbar plugged into hdmi 2 Thanks, that was exactly what I meant. I changed my soundbar to be hooked up via HDMI now, rather than optical as it was before. EDIT: I'm a bit ashamed to admit it but, I have had this soundbar and an ARC capable TV for 4 years. Incessant Excess fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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