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limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Starz should have done a better job of promoting the fact that they cast Brad Pitt as Caesar.

The slow-motion shot of the slave-girl looking at Gannicus like she wanted to gently caress him right after he killed her Dominus was hilarious.

What was that slave cutting on Caesar?

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limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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God drat I hope Naevia gets brutally murdered. She straight up murdered that guy, then made up a story about him attacking her. She's got some hardcore issues going on, and is a real liability.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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It's not shocking at all. But it wouldn't surprise me if her blood thirst puts the rest of them in danger at some point.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Translation: Spartacus is the only reason people watch this channel, and we hate the fact that this is the last season and we want to milk it as long as possible.


The new DeVinchi show they keep promoting looks interesting, though.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Forum Actuary posted:

Yeah, that was clever. I'm still not sure if they did plan to or not?

Were those ballista things just incase Spartacus' guys tried to screw them? I might have missed something.

Looked like it. Although why they still needed their main guy to signal them for help after the Romans arrived is kinda weird. Strict adherence to orders goes out the window when an unexpected group of Romans start attacking.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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muscles like this? posted:

It really seemed to me that the pirates were totally going to betray Spartacus and crew but the Romans showing up threw a wrench into his plans.

Eh. In clips of the rest of the season, members of the pirate band can be seen with Spartacus in battles against the Romans, so their wasn't much tension for me.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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I'm really excited to see if they completely change history in this show. With this recent development, I don't see how Crixus works up the motivation to actually separate himself from Spartacus again. Maybe in this show, Sparty and Co. sack Rome and live happily ever after?

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Jut posted:

Best loving episode of the season so far. It seems like the managed to fit into one episode, what would be dragged out over several in any other series. We've gone from Crassus loving around in camp, to at the gates of Spartacus' city, and several other plot points resolved.
I swear if they have another one week break before the next episode I'm going to be very very sad:(

I'm guessing the note Crassus received was from Cesar, but how the hell did he get it out?

I'm interested to see how they handle the final episode, since apparently Spartacus and Crassus never duked it out...most shows would say "gently caress that" and have a one on one anyway...

Looking at the Starz website for the show, there's a break between episodes 8 and 9. Is it common for pay-channels like this to have breaks? I thought network shows only did that because they film episodes as they're airing.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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BlackArtistik posted:

I'm sure that knife wound is gonna be significant somehow. Spartacus really seemed out of it when he did that bro handshake with Crixus. Also, I'm curious as to what's gonna happen with Castus, given that he was Heracleo's right hand man (I think?).

The black pirate? He's in trailer shots with Spartacus's army (during large battle scenes) so I'd imagine he sticks with them after an initial argument over his trustworthiness.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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If this season doesn't jump the shark history wise, and have Gannicus kill Caesar, I'm going to be extremely disappointed. Ganni just keeps kicking Caesar's rear end with ease. If this were DnD, Gannicus seems like he's 5 levels above everyone else.

Although, if that slave during the execution wasn't pre-wounded, it looked like he would have killed Caesar, so maybe he's not as good a fighter as he portrays himself as.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Gangringo posted:

Gannicus and Pullo gently caress and kill their way across time while Spartacus and Vorenus stay in the TARDIS to brood and complain about them.

New concept: Gannicus is a time traveler, Spartacus and Co. stay in their respective time period, and depending on their actions the world Gannicus lives in completely changes week to week.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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I like how the Roman winter-warfare attire consists of throwing fur over the shoulders, while still leaving all extremities exposed, so that muscles can be seen.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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When Crixus/Sparty/Gannicus/Agron initially broke over the wall and saw the "Only hundreds of them" Roman soldiers, I thought their intention were to kill all of them by themselves. That's what it seemed like at first, and I'm pretty sure it would have made the episode better if that's how it had went down.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Every time Caesar gets into a fight he gets his rear end kicked. Even the no-name slave that had wounds through his stomach almost killed him. He keeps getting bailed out by last second rescues, and it's bullshit.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Spartacus with the masterstroke!

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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That guy could have sliced Spartacus open at any point during that speech.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Holy poo poo this is the best episode of Spartacus ever

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Awwww! Agron! :allears:

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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LordArgh posted:

I thought the whole arena fight dragged on a bit. I didn't feel like any of the characters were in any danger, figuring the writers wouldn't let any of them die to a bunch of random redshirts, so there wasn't really much tension. Spartacus stabbing that guy through the eyes was pretty cool though. I was kinda hoping Naevia would be killed by Tiberius (if they were going to switch things up by having one of the slaves lose, this would have been the fight to do it in), but at least they didn't let her kill him. Tiberius's death was still a bit of a letdown, though. I think he would have deserved whatever Caesar was planning for him more than the rather quick death Kore gave him.

If Caesar had taken and killed Tiberius himself, he would have said a rebel did it, and the deal would not have been fulfilled.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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nooneofconsequence posted:

I was really hoping for a flash-forward of Crassus' and Caesar's deaths, but I guess that was unrealistic with the spinoff potential.

I'm assuming the spin-off would just jump a head a few years to the first trium, and be a more-entertaining version of Rome?

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Boogoose posted:


It's strange how shows like Game of Thrones get all the critical acclaim and huge budgets, but something that was initially dismissed as 300 The Show packs into one episode more drama and emotion than an entire season the former. The season finales of all three full seasons of Spartacus have easily been the best I have ever seen. Television is there to entertain you after all, and Spartacus definitely did that.

To be fair, Spartacus concentrates on 5-6 characters, all of whom are in the same location the majority of the time. GoT has two dozen characters, all who are in wildly different locations. It's much harder to create all that drama and emotion when each character isn't getting 30 minutes of screen time every episode.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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If Crixus hadn't of hosed off with half the army, would Spartacus had stood a decent chance of destroying Crassus's armies? Obviously he would have been wiped out by Pompey immediately afterwards, but that's besides the point. Speaking in actual history terms, by the way.

Also, I don't think Caesar actually meant to kill Agron. Pretty sure it was simply a way to try and get him to talk/scare the other slaves. A high-ranking official is a good bargaining chip, even if it's just a high-ranking slave official. The fact that he was still alive days later, in good enough health to walk and fight, suggests that he was taken down relatively soon after.

limeincoke fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Apr 14, 2013

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Had the Spartacus of WoTD gained enough levels to beat Theokoles 1v1, or would he still get his rear end kicked? This is very much an important question.

Edit: Crixus actually is a real team player completely on accident. Gannicus was getting his poo poo pushed in at the end of GoTA, and was only saved by Crixus. Then he does the same for Spartacus against Theok. Is that fight at the end of GoTA the only time where Gannicus appears to be an inferior fighter? Or did the Egyptian give him a good run?

limeincoke fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Apr 14, 2013

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Only problem I had with the prequel were the amount and length of the sex scenes. The rest of the series had lots as well, but the prequel really stepped it up. Because of the time crunch they had to write it, it seemed like anytime they couldn't think of a scene to fill time, they just said "Let's have a threesome! For 5 minutes!" I'd have to go back and rewatch, but I'm pretty sure that a minimum of 10 minutes every episode was spent on sex with no dialogue. Ever for a show about tits and violence, it was a little gratuitous.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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I don't know if it would even be that successful. I know if I were to watch another show done in the same manner I would just keep wondering when Spartacus was going to show up.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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The prequel is awesome, but it does suffer from one thing - they only had a limited amount of time to write it, and some sex scenes go on uncomfortably long just to fill air time. Like, I'm a fan of the over-the-top sex scenes, but the prequel really takes it a bit far.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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The best part about this show is that the gay interracial couple are the only two to survive. And it's not even given special attention. It's probably one of the most progressive shows as far as gender and sexuality in all of TV.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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GuyDudeBroMan posted:

I don't know man. A 30/70 dongs to vag ratio is pretty low. Maybe one day soon the poles will outnumber the holes, and then we will know that we have truly reached peak progresivity

Yeah but most shows/movies (outside of porn) are 0 dongs to 100 tits/vag. Progress march on! I'm surprised Macklemore hasn't written a song about the show yet.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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I only like naked men if their bodies are hard and jacked.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Rewatching season 1. Manu is fuckin lean that season. Nowadays he's a bit heavier (especially in the face), but season 1 is just perfection. Though it probably helps that he's got a deep tan and is constantly covered in oil with overhead lighting.

Also, it was either this thread or the GBS one that talked about Varro's death. That was a weak spot for me, and not because Varro was cool. It's because Varro was a free Roman citizen under voluntary contract. I don't know what Roman custom was, but I'm pretty sure ordering the death of a (fairly respected) citizen entirely for the show of a party would have been Not Cool.

limeincoke fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Feb 13, 2015

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limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

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Yudo posted:

I'm not an expert on Roman history and law, but from what I understand Roman citizens could not (though it did happen) preform in the arena: a citizen couldn't be whipped, beaten or killed without trial. Varro sold himself into slavery to settle debts, unlike most gladiators that were captured, enslaved and sold very much against their will.

Keep in mind that while Roman slavery was indeed brutal, it did not have, for lack of a better word, the permanence of later racial slavery: a freed slave had rights (e.g. could never be enslaved again) and could become or reclaim citizenship, albeit social stigma was attached. One could sell themselves into slavery, and later buy themselves out. Some rose quite far and for a period made up much of Rome's bureaucracy.

After the fall of the Republic, several emperors enacted laws giving slaves a great deal of rights vis-a-vis their prior lot and the unimaginably horrible American institution, though Roman law enforcement is nothing like what we have today and I'm not sure how such protections translated to the daily life of slaves. That being said, the Servile Wars scared the poo poo out of Romans so they were probably nicer by that virtue. The end of Roman military expansion also curtailed supply, making killing your slaves pretty dumb.

Just a quick google search - but Roman free man were only banned from the games under 1 ruler, who was a grotchy crotch. Other than that free men were actually the preferred gladiators. Which makes sense, as obviously Romans would consider Romans to be better at fighting, and thus a better show. Gladiators were the rock stars and sports heroes of their time, and even Emperors enjoyed fighting in them.

Either way, searching revealed me right - Varros was a common situation, and he was still considered a Roman free man who was simply under a (modern term) free agency contract.

limeincoke fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Feb 13, 2015

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