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Jedit posted:A: Control, this is Corcoran, I got a kook at the holding post on Bruce Willis Overwalk. He's asking questions about Dredd ... someone better pick him up for interrogation.[/b] Great OP; looking forward to the thread and seeing what newcomers make of Dredd's universe. (Which may or may not also be the universe of Strontium Dog, and Ro-Busters/ABC Warriors and by extension Nemesis The Warlock and just about everything else Pat Mills has ever written, depending on the retcon status this week.)
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rotinaj posted:I was actually just reading through the wikipedia summaries of the major arcs of Judge Dredd, so good timing on this. Do any authors try to get Dredd going all comic-book-hero and liberal and poo poo and just not get what Dredd's whole point is, or did they manage to keep him more-or-less on-task? I'll have to dig out my copy of Judge Dredd: The Mega-History, which is full of candid quotes and anecdotes about the strip's first 18 or so years.
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Dredd has survived everything the world has thrown at him for 36 years.  This includes being shot in the heart, shot through the heart, shot through the head, 100% burns, cancer, nuclear war and actually dying on at least one occasion.
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Senor Science posted:Speaking of which, I would kill for a licensed Judge Dredd sandbox style game a la New Vegas or Stalker set in the Cursed Earth. The protagonist could be a retired or disgraced judge setting out to bring law to the lawless.
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Jan 25, 2013 12:32
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bobkatt013 posted:Yes he first appeared in Prog 2. Also you have to remember that 2000 AD is an anthology magizine and Judge Dredd is just part.
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Jan 25, 2013 15:43
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Kerbtree posted:Anyone else remember Future Shocks?
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The Lawgiver was never consistent until the Mk2 was introduced sometime before 'Doomsday', where it was a key plot element. Before that, it tended to resemble a futuristic Luger (geddit? Dredd's a fascist! ), except when it didn't. Ezquerra's version was beefed up with a muzzle big enough to fit a couple of fingers inside (but a tiny magazine), and Ron Smith's had huge mags above and below the barrel (which would have made it impossible to holster  ).The only times the hardware's really been consistent from artist to artist is the Landraider in 'The Cursed Earth' (which was based on a 1977 toy), Justice 1 in 'The Judge Child', the Manta tank and the Lawgiver 2. Everything else? Up to the artist. Ron Smith came from American comics, and was amazed that there wasn't even a model sheet for Dredd himself; the other artists before him just went "Helmet, pads, badge saying 'Dredd'? Yeah, that'll do."
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Feb 21, 2013 22:59
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Anderson: Psi Division came up with the very odd reveal in one story that if they felt like it, Judges could take off the boots and pads, dress up in their finest party clothes and go out on the town for a night of dancing. (Maybe it was a perk of Psi-Division, because it's hard to imagine Dredd ever boogying the night away.) Now in Oz or Murphyville, on the other hand, it would practically be mandatory.
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Feb 26, 2013 23:04
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demolina posted:I swear Brian Bollard's art is just the most gorgeous kind of black and white.
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rotinaj posted:It's just strange considering how so many of the later comics and big stories(The Apocalypse War, Necropolis, etc) are super grim and dark.
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Mar 6, 2013 22:01
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david_a posted:Judge Dredd never had any crossovers with Nemesis/ABC Warriors, right? I picked up Vol 1 of the Complete Nemesis (it looks like this is all the US has so far) and it's wonderfully insane. Kevin O'Neill's artwork reminds me a bit of Simon Bisley in ABC Warriors: The Black Hole. And yes, O'Neill's art for Nemesis Book 1 is probably his masterwork. The level of detail and warped imagination is just insane.
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Apr 18, 2013 08:55
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Oh, god, yeah. The early '90s. Not a good era for Dredd, but then not a good era for 2000AD in general, as it swung wildly between achingly politically correct and "look how loving TRANSGRESSIVE we are, you loving SQUARES!" (It was also the era of godawful Bisley-clone painted artwork that looked even worse in the comic because of the cheap paper and printing.)
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Lurdiak posted:What do you mean by politically correct?
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Prenton posted:As a kid, I thought that was a satire of extreme eco-views/veganism. Welp. (Although Tharg did kind of apologise for "that thing with the sheep" in one of the anniversary specials: "What was I thinking?") Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Apr 21, 2013 |
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Something to bear in mind with the change in tone of Dredd (and 2000AD as a whole) over time is that the comic was created to cash in on the sci-fi boom of the late 70s, and nobody involved imagined it would last more than a few years before either folding or being absorbed into another title. The wacky poo poo from the early days was thrown in just because they could; if Wagner had known he'd still be writing it 36 years later and aiming it at adults he might have been more picky about the worldbuilding. (But then, it wouldn't be the same Dredd without some of the batshit crazy ideas of the first few years.)
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Apr 23, 2013 08:40
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Loved the reveal of Section 7's big secret in the last part of 'Mega-City Confidential', and how the whole story turned out to be a satire of the Edward Snowden affair, right down to the crusading journalist's partner being detained at a
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Apr 24, 2014 14:32
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Maybe 'designed' wasn't the right word, since the current system evolved over time and through circumstance (although what was done in 'Mega-City Confidential' absolutely was a deliberate effort), but as in the mattress example above, there are so many byzantine laws that if the Judges want to charge somebody for something, they'll get there in the end. The first time we see a crime blitz, it's stated in dialogue that they have a 100% record of finding some breach of the law, however minor (and the fact that this particular case doesn't find anything makes Dredd so suspicious that he orders 24-hour surveillance on the suspect until he does something wrong).
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Got 'The Apocalypse War' as part of the Mega Collection, and drat, reading it as one continuous story rather than individual episodes for the first time hammered home just how good a piece of action storytelling it is. If you include 'Block Mania' (which you should), it's, what, 36 or so weeks of story, and it never. loving. Stops. For. A. Moment. It's relentless, and every time it looks like the biggest thing ever has happened, something comes along right after and tops it. It's also an insanely good collection of art, with pretty much all the classic Dredd artists represented: McMahon, Ron Smith, Dillon, Bolland and Ezquerra. Only Gibson and Ewins (RIP) missed the Apocalypso party. I did notice that some of the repro is dodgy, though; McMahon's map of MC1 in 'Block Mania' originally had detail that's missing here, and the 'Block Mania' title logo itself is often smudged and bleeding. There's even a greyscale reproduction (despite their attempts to hide it) of one of Ezquerra's spreads while everything else is B&W, which makes me wonder if 2000AD are missing some of the original art/plates/film/whatever and having to make do with scans of actual issues. Also, I can't work out their numbering system. This was #3 in sale order, but #36 in "shelving" order for the spine artwork? 
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Castle Radium posted:Possibly the lack of colour spreads is because they're about to start reissuing the early Case Files again with the colour pages included this time, and that would be a pretty big selling point. Unfortunately b/w art from this era always seems to lose a ton of detail when it's scaled down, as the original pages were huge by the standard of today's comics. For my money the best repro was in the now OOP Titan edition.
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LORD OF BUTT posted:This is from pages ago, but how is the submissions process, if you don't mind? I'm thinking of trying to break into comics as a writer and I love the hell out of 2000AD, so submitting a Future Shock or two seems like a reasonable enough way to go about it.  The 2000AD website has submissions guidelines.
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Yeah, MacNeil's earliest black-and-white work for 2000AD (Future Shocks, a couple of Dredds) was very much Ezquerra-inspired, before he developed his own style. Simon Harrison was a weird choice for one of 2000AD's flagship strips, as his style at that stage was pretty cartoony and raw - he certainly hadn't fully developed it, so dropping a world-changing Strontium Dog epic onto him was a hell of a trial by fire.
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biglads posted:I note that the President seems to have a Trump-style toupee....  
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I got the latest Mega Collections, and boy, were they a reminder of just how bad the 1990s Ennis/Millar/Morrison run on Dredd was compared to Wagner. Dredd himself may have been a satire of the 1970s Dirty Harry-style 'tough cop', but they write him (deliberately or unintentionally) as a parody of a satire, and it becomes as stupid as Horatio Caine's pre-YYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH one-liners. Dredd strikes a tough pose; Dredd spouts a hard-rear end comment; Dredd does something gratuitously brutal. (There's also a distinct tendency for the bad guys to direct their own gratuitous brutality against women, particularly in 'Inferno', which could be the writers' laddish "tee hee, look how transgressive we are!" attitude, or something deeper and nastier bubbling to the surface.) When you have one of the writers describing his own work as poo poo in the accompanying interview ('Judgement Day') or the current editor of 2000AD introducing a collection with a disclaimer that he thinks the writers didn't know how to write Dredd properly ('Inferno'), you do have to wonder why these stories were included in what's supposed to be a best-of collection at all. (Other than maybe "we need to get Morrison, Millar and Ennis's names on as many covers as possible!") Also, I know that continuity complaints and "that's not how things work!" objections in comics are the height of sperginess, but both 'Inferno' and 'Helter Skelter' involve a small group of bad guys taking over the Grand Hall of Justice, and from that controlling the entire city - ignoring the dozens if not hundreds of sector houses and other Justice Department facilities with their own forces, air support, tanks, Mantas and other military-grade hardware that could be used to retake it. When Wagner did a coup in 'Doomsday', he did it properly across the entire city - and set it up years in advance!
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Wow, after 29 years Dredd finally killed PJ Maybe. Although I'm wondering if it's really the end - the whole business with the split personality didn't get nearly as much payoff as such a major development would seem to deserve, and it lacked the usual PJ's dyslexic diary format. On the other hand, it was a pretty decisive way to go out - three deaths in one!
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Sep 17, 2016 23:14
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Did we ever find out how PJ escaped being killed by Judge Death at the start of 'Dark Justice'? My memory's fuzzy, but I think he didn't turn up again until 'Serial Serial', and even then only offscreen via the letters to Dredd.
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Well, poo poo. Steve Dillon (definitely one of the 'classic era' Dredd artists) just died.
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Grr. Hachette did a special offer on the Dredd Mega-Collection over New Year's: all books half price! So I ordered all the essential ones I needed to catch up, plus some of the spin-off stories I didn't really fancy at full whack. £100 of books for £50 - great! ...except that when I tried to go to the checkout, all I got was an "Error: unable to process" message. Which when I tried again today had disappeared so everything was working normally - only all the books in my basket had strangely reverted to full price. Fuckers!
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