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Stormtrooper
Oct 18, 2003

Imperial Servant

Railtus posted:

On leather, I have heard that as well from Dan Howard, who I generally trust when it comes to information. I do not remember seeing any leather armour in medieval artwork, and a quick search is not finding any. Generally speaking the best sources I know that argue for leather armour being used were an Osprey book on the Knights Hospitaller (those vary in reliability a lot), and a throwaway comment by Mike Loades commenting on it in the Talhoffer Fightbook documentary (no detail provided).

There is evidence for leather armour in medieval europe, particular for the limbs. Consider the following:
- Extant vambrace found off the coast of the Netherlands: http://beeldbank.cultureelerfgoed.nl/alle-afbeeldingen/weergave/search/layout/result/indeling/detail/start/3?searchfield=scheldevondst+1937
- Extant vambrace discovered in Tartu, Estonia: Thesis [english pg 42]: http://arheo.ut.ee/theses/BA10_Pruus.pdf
- Extant rerebrace, British Museum: https://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilami/6840030630/
- In art: painting by Lorenzo Veneziano: http://armourinart.com/8/11/
- In art: BNF NAF 5243 f. 46r: http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4365/16764/

There are lots of other examples as well, especially in art.

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Stormtrooper
Oct 18, 2003

Imperial Servant

Railtus posted:

Thanks! I really love some of those images. I notice an interesting detail, the flickr artefact mentions they had a very short period of popularity (1320-1350). Do you find that pattern with the artwork? Does it all seem to be concentrated around a certain stage of transitional armour?
You'll find many Italian effigies with rerebraces with similar patterns. For example:
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/745/3002/
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/3788/3344/
http://effigiesandbrasses.com/2815/6042/

Railtus posted:

I am also curious about the one picture where a guy appears to be wearing boiled leather vambraces and rerebraces (forearms and upper arms for readers unfamiliar with the terms), but he seems to have splinted leg armour and I think a coat-of-plates or corrozina on the body. Do you have any thoughts why he might use hardened leather for arms in combination with splinted metal for legs?
I don't have a definitive answer, but I can offer two possibilities: 1) cost, 2) that particular painting depicts the conversion of Paul. Romans were often painted wearing leather (though usually with more Roman-esque costume details) by medieval artists.

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