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dancehall
Sep 28, 2001

You say you want a revolution
Last couple of episodes have been wonderfully entertaining. John just never runs out of stories and great/nefarious ideas.

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Roach Warehouse
Nov 1, 2010


Given how often Merlin says "We can cut all this out if you want" do you think they ever actually do it?

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

I just noticed that today is the show's second birthday, and I can't let that go un-noted.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




dancehall posted:

Last couple of episodes have been wonderfully entertaining. John just never runs out of stories and great/nefarious ideas.

To piggyback and update, the latest 2-3 episodes have been amazing, both in their discussions of wealth and freedom and John's burgeoning local politics career.

Fate Accomplice fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Oct 22, 2013

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
It's strange because recently he said he views himself as a person "engaged in a culture of ideas" an yet is really acrimonious to any of these "well-meaning college professors" writing to him to explain why what he says might be wrong (he's got some crappy opinions, tbh, that punk article was weird.) It seems like someone engaged with a culture of ideas would be more open to having his ideas challenged.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

HipGnosis posted:

It's strange because recently he said he views himself as a person "engaged in a culture of ideas" an yet is really acrimonious to any of these "well-meaning college professors" writing to him to explain why what he says might be wrong (he's got some crappy opinions, tbh, that punk article was weird.) It seems like someone engaged with a culture of ideas would be more open to having his ideas challenged.

I think he's very aware of this and plays it up a little to exaggerate his character.

Swarthy_Foreskin
Apr 17, 2003

You want to put a knife in me. Look me in the eyes. See what's going on in there while you turn it.
Nap Ghost
This was posted by someone on the (mostly deserted) Long Winters forum and I think y'all might enjoy it. I really wonder when he will run out of stories. This one features drug use and guns!


http://vimeo.com/77172523

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

If you guys need something else to listen to once you're done with this week's episode, John was a guest this week on The Todd Barry Podcast: http://www.feralaudio.com/27-john-roderick/

Definitely a good listen in my opinion.

Stutes
Oct 13, 2005

Tonight's the Night
Seems like this is the best place since the old thread got archived: part 1(?) of the final You Look Nice Today episode was just posted.

http://youlooknicetoday.com/episode/scat-academy-one

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

Stutes posted:

Seems like this is the best place since the old thread got archived: part 1(?) of the final You Look Nice Today episode was just posted.

http://youlooknicetoday.com/episode/scat-academy-one

:swoon:

Does the Comedy thread discuss YLNT at all?

Fiendly
May 27, 2010

That's not right!
This show's great and I'm glad I finally got around to listening to it. It reminds me of a podcast I liked a lot called Speedway Squad, which was hosted by current and former members of the band The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets and shared a lot of that insight only career musicians can provide. Shittily, it ended its 129 episode run the week I subscribed to it, and while two of the three hosts still do a podcast called Horsetrack Hooligans along with another guy from the same band, the guy who left was kind of the show's John Roderick analogue and it's pretty terrible without him. Speedway Squad isn't hosted anywhere anymore, and while I still have almost every episode saved on my hard drive, I am disinclined to re-listen to them at this juncture and they aren't mine to be spreading around, so they're pretty much just taking up space. Here's the only evidence I can find to prove the show actually existed.

Anyway, thanks a ton to this thread for finally giving me a new "hilarious musicians bullshitting" fix!

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

What's the episode where Roderick talks about his childhood obsession with money?

head58
Apr 1, 2013

Fighting the urge to stitch together every time John says "the thing about X is..." into one super long audio file.

Swarthy_Foreskin
Apr 17, 2003

You want to put a knife in me. Look me in the eyes. See what's going on in there while you turn it.
Nap Ghost

Mescal posted:

What's the episode where Roderick talks about his childhood obsession with money?

I believe it starts about 25 minutes into Sunset University.

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

So who else is buying a white jumpsuit after listening to this week's show? Gotta be ready for the stick fights.

head58
Apr 1, 2013

My son just informed me that eating meatball sandwiches in the bathtub is "against the rules." Where did I go wrong?

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

head58 posted:

My son just informed me that eating meatball sandwiches in the bathtub is "against the rules." Where did I go wrong?

How many trails has he cut?

Chocolate Cocaine
Dec 26, 2008

Poopy Palpy posted:

How many trails has he cut?

Supertrain is on the way ...

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

I just want to say I'm delighted that they've been back in the groove of great episodes every week again. There's nothing else quite like this show.

iv46vi
Apr 2, 2010
The handjob episode is sublime essence of this show.

head58
Apr 1, 2013

John is going to get so many emails this week.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
I like that he basically admits his theory of feminism has to ignore all evidence. I like John, I really do, but any of his theories related to "social justice" or cultural studies show his "middle-aged-ness."

If someone really wants to be "engaged with a culture of ideas" as he claims to be you have to accept that your views will be challenged. People are going to disagree with you and maybe you should listen to their objections instead of whining about the fact that others are making objections.

peter banana fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jun 11, 2014

Roach Warehouse
Nov 1, 2010


Good grief that was a rough 10 minutes or so. If you ask me John was just putting matriarchal apples on patriarchal trees.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
it was pretty tone deaf, considering some guy just shot a bunch of people because women wouldn't gently caress him and he felt entitled to that. Like, the biggest issue facing women right now isn't "the fact that we don't demand our own recognition" it's "will some man kill me because I said I wouldn't sleep with him?"

WoG
Jul 13, 2004

peter banana posted:

it was pretty tone deaf, considering some guy just shot a bunch of people because women wouldn't gently caress him and he felt entitled to that. Like, the biggest issue facing women right now isn't "the fact that we don't demand our own recognition" it's "will some man kill me because I said I wouldn't sleep with him?"

You really think that one incident is indicative of social structure at large?

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

WoG posted:

You really think that one incident is indicative of social structure at large?

as a woman: YES

WoG
Jul 13, 2004

peter banana posted:

as a woman: YES

Well, to paraphrase a wise person, if you want to engage with a culture of ideas, you have to accept that your views will be challenged. People are going to disagree with you and maybe you should listen to their objections instead of whining about the fact that others are making objections.


tldr: great thread. Keep it up.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
This is the worst and dumbest derail that ever happened so I'd like it to stop but: what are you even talking about?

Where did I whine about your objections? You asked me if my experiences indicated a larger problem with misogyny in society. I drew on my lifetime of experiences and answered yes. You are welcome to believe that the abuse, rape and harassment I've experienced at the hands of multiple men didn't actually happen but, uh, it did. I was there, you weren't so again what are you even talking about

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

I don't know how that discussion was controversial--I was listening pretty closely to that part, and he didn't seem to make a point.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD
Yeah, can we post about how wrong Roderick was about Computer Maths instead?

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
Sorry dude. I thought #notallmen was such a joke at this point no one would say it sincerely. Not sure why I thought that.

WoG
Jul 13, 2004

peter banana posted:

This is the worst and dumbest derail that ever happened so I'd like it to stop but: what are you even talking about?

Where did I whine about your objections?
You didn't whine about my objection, you whined about JR's opposing viewpoint, confusingly enough, by asking him not to whine about opposing viewpoints (which he hadn't done in the first place).

quote:

You asked me if my experiences indicated a larger problem with misogyny in society.
I didn't ask you any part of that. I asked if that one shooting was germane to a purely philosophical, if dumb, consideration of matriarchy vs patriarchy.

My point is this: John made some ridiculous argument at which you could have just rolled your eyes, as the rest of us did, as one does with much of his rambling philosophizing. Instead you cried, "too soon!" (ie, "It was pretty tone-deaf, considering..."). For that alone, gently caress you. Now you're willfully misinterpreting everything in the most volatile way possible, so that you can bring up dumb tumblr hashtags.

Thanks for accusing me of denying that you'd been raped, though. (?!) That's not terroristic rhetoric at all.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

Mescal posted:

I don't know how that discussion was controversial--I was listening pretty closely to that part, and he didn't seem to make a point.

it didn't quite get to a point. It sort of started out as "women's social and economic power is often overshadowed by patriarchy" which Merlin tried to articulate at one point. Then John sort of switched to, "well, actually women probably enjoyed traditional gender roles (whatever that means, including when they had no rights and were treated as property, I guess)" to "patriarchy is (or feminists believe it is) a weird conspiracy run by a board of shadowy figures to keep women down" again, freely admitting that those theories fly in the face of all evidence of women's real experiences

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

peter banana posted:

freely admitting that those theories fly in the face of all evidence of women's real experiences

That part really struck me. He said something to the effect of "It's all anecdotal. This statistic says this, that statistic says that" which makes it sound like he has no idea what anecdotal actually means.

He seems to come from a very heavily female family. How many times has he mentioned a male relative besides his dad? I'm sure there must have been some, but I can't think of any. He talks a lot about his sister and his mom though. He sees how his family works and is extrapolating from there, and it's giving him a warped view of society as a whole.

ham_sanitizer
Jul 12, 2014

professional swine bather

Poopy Palpy posted:

Yeah, can we post about how wrong Roderick was about Computer Maths instead?

I'm a software engineer and listen while at work...I couldn't stop laughing at that part. I love John and his bullshit, the recent feminism mini-rant included.

I did think it was interesting that he pointed out the social power women have that is easy to overlook, but he missed a lot of the overall picture. Then again, the show is mostly about playing with ideas that are interesting instead of getting things completely right.

In that sense, in some ways he's right about "computer maths" in that most of the things I actually do at work, as opposed to what I learned in college, could be taught as a trade.

ham_sanitizer fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jul 22, 2014

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD
How the gently caress has John spent over 120 hours telling the sorry of his life on this podcast and not mentioned the time he cofounded a cocaine fueled art gallery jazz rave cafe where he met Reggie Watts until he needed to explain his relationship to artichokes?

ham_sanitizer
Jul 12, 2014

professional swine bather
I thought the same thing...though it is a period pretty much completely disconnected from the rest of his life. Like he said, when it was over it was pretty much like it didn't happen.

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

What I really liked about it is that he spent all that time telling the story, and still remembered to bring it back around to the artichokes in the end.

ham_sanitizer
Jul 12, 2014

professional swine bather
Yeah...it seems like he's really figured out where the lily pads are.

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Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

Some hero is putting together an iBooks series titled "The Definitive Guide to Roderick on the Line". So far it only covers episodes 000-005, but he plans to keep updating it.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/definitive-guide-to-roderick/id910018983

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