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PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Oneiros posted:

This is some Temple of Doom poo poo here. :stare:

Gotta love the newspaper headlines. "Do the Black-Tongues Have A Cure??"

But, yeah. This is going to be bad.

Wiki-reading people, what are we seeing here?

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Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The interesting (and by interesting I mean most horrifying) part is you can tell that's pretty mundane. I mean, it might bother the squeamish but it's right out in public, people just walking/riding by without really giving a poo poo...

People can be acclimatized to the most horrible things :stonk:

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
According to the author, they're executing captured members of The March, which is a secularist/sorta-anarchist movement. They aren't well liked if you can imagine.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
As far as I can tell, our happy fun-time executioners there are subtracting some heat from the giant fire-pit and adding it directly to the prisoners.

SpudCat
Mar 12, 2012

How much more mustache-twirlingly evil can Alderode get? Is the next page just going to be a bunch of Aldish people eating puppies?

Wheats
Sep 28, 2007

strange sisters

I think you'll find that those puppies were Crescian spies.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Wheats posted:

I think you'll find that those puppies were Crescian spies.

It's entirely possible that this is what the "gold for pelts" sign was about, since actual Crescians would stand out too much to be useful as spies.

Of course, the alternative is that the sign has nothing to do with counterespionage and is pure nationalist hatemongering propaganda.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Just visit scenic Alderode. Its open-air murder pits are wholesome fun for the entire family!

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Public executions used to be a very popular form of entertainment, gruesome as it sounds.

I wouldn't be all that surprised if there were similar scenes in the heart of Cresce. If the Aldish do mass sacrifice in murderpits, then Crescians wouldn't be able to shut up about it unless it's not all that much of a culture shock.

Where does Cresce get all those plods from anyways?

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

SlothfulCobra posted:

Public executions used to be a very popular form of entertainment, gruesome as it sounds.

I wouldn't be all that surprised if there were similar scenes in the heart of Cresce. If the Aldish do mass sacrifice in murderpits, then Crescians wouldn't be able to shut up about it unless it's not all that much of a culture shock.

Where does Cresce get all those plods from anyways?
The reason why both countries agreed to not use them anymore in warfare despite how much they hate eachother is because they got most of them from raising their own and the enemy's dead.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Fun Shoe
Duane's weird minority religion just got a lot more badass now that we know it's based on deicide :black101:

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.

Fabricated posted:

The reason why both countries agreed to not use them anymore in warfare despite how much they hate eachother is because they got most of them from raising their own and the enemy's dead.


You can also contract out to have your body raised after you die, with your beneficiaries getting the money for it.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



You know what, I think I like this comic.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Have we seen this guy before? Something about him seems familiar; was he the guy from Sette's flashback with her father, perhaps? I don't remember where that was and I don't want to go through the whole comic to check.

The Sin of Onan
Oct 11, 2012

And below,
watched by eyes of steel
we dreamt

Roland Jones posted:

Have we seen this guy before? Something about him seems familiar; was he the guy from Sette's flashback with her father, perhaps? I don't remember where that was and I don't want to go through the whole comic to check.

It is this fellow, I think.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Hello, handsome dead man.

ecureuilmatrix
Mar 30, 2011
So as of yet:

Sharteshane: feudal monarchy de jure/failed state de facto

Ulestry: Folky superstitious hickland

Alderode: Totalitarian caste-based theocracy


I can't wait to see Cresce!

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


ecureuilmatrix posted:

So as of yet:

Sharteshane: feudal monarchy de jure/failed state de facto

Ulestry: Folky superstitious hickland

Alderode: Totalitarian caste-based theocracy


I can't wait to see Cresce!

Cresce is a Obama Socialist-Communist Monarchy, from what we've seen/know.

ecureuilmatrix
Mar 30, 2011

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

Cresce is a Obama Socialist-Communist Monarchy, from what we've seen/know.

Indeed, but I meant, there's what we'd heard about Alderode, but it's a different thing to actually see it.

Theory and practice and all that.

So I'm just curious to see this communist monarchy in action.

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.

All I ever see in that page is Alucard from SoTN, it's got the wolf, the white roses turning red and the vague misty background most of the fanart had.

SirDan3k fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Apr 6, 2013

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

In Cresce, greed is a crime, the idea of which I find rather unsettling. I do wonder if they're anywhere near as bad as Alderode, though, because Alderode is bad.

Quigley probably thought they were the lesser of two evils (or at least convenient allies) at one point, before deciding he was better off doing business elsewhere. Nevermind that this landed him in some sickeningly deplorable company that he's only recently cut himself from.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

T.G. Xarbala posted:

In Cresce, greed is a crime, the idea of which I find rather unsettling. I do wonder if they're anywhere near as bad as Alderode, though, because Alderode is bad.

Quigley probably thought they were the lesser of two evils (or at least convenient allies) at one point, before deciding he was better off doing business elsewhere. Nevermind that this landed him in some sickeningly deplorable company that he's only recently cut himself from.

Also note that Duane (and possibly others?) referred to their queen with less-than-pleasant terms and made her sound like some evil tyrant. While that could just be nationalism and rumors, considering how involved Cresce is with its neighbors in underhanded ways on her orders, how the leadership of real communist countries (or really just monarchies and dictatorships in general) tended to be, and the other things we know of Cresce, I doubt she is a friendly person.

Also Quigley's tendency to find unpleasant partners is not surprising, considering that basically every faction in the comic's world is terrible. Even those guards who seemed like decent guys are part of a group that's extending Cresce's meddling hand into its neighbors; meanwhile there's Sette's criminal family, Duane's weird church, and so on. I think the only one that's not confirmed to be terrible in some manner is the one that young slave kid ended up with that the father who lives in the basement or whatever is part of, and we haven't seen anything of him/them so that's not saying much.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Apr 6, 2013

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Well we already know the Black Tongues are necromantic dabblers and experimenters so... who knows?

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

Roland Jones posted:

I think the only one that's not confirmed to be terrible in some manner is the one that young slave kid ended up with that the father who lives in the basement or whatever is part of, and we haven't seen anything of him/them so that's not saying much.

You mean the group of crazy black magicians who do stuff like sacrifice children?

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Basically Ashley Cope has managed to create a unique fantastic world as hosed up as our own woo :downsgun:

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

You mean the group of crazy black magicians who do stuff like sacrifice children?

Wait that's who they are? All I remember was them ending up with some people and some ghosts who were unhappy with how lovely things are and then this guy barged out of the basement pissed about something. Definitely don't remember seeing them sacrificing children.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Roland Jones posted:

Wait that's who they are? All I remember was them ending up with some people and some ghosts who were unhappy with how lovely things are and then this guy barged out of the basement pissed about something. Definitely don't remember seeing them sacrificing children.

From what I understand, the Black Tongues are a really decentralized group of mages and scholars that have "Progress at all costs!" as their unifying motto. So they can range the gambit to chill guys that just want to make their own spells to baby sacrificing mad scientists.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

From what I understand, the Black Tongues are a really decentralized group of mages and scholars that have "Progress at all costs!" as their unifying motto. So they can range the gambit to chill guys that just want to make their own spells to baby sacrificing mad scientists.

Yeah, we've seen several blacktongues and it appears they don't necessarily know about or approve of each others' plans.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
They seem to like the titcrow a lot (stained glass windows of her in the basement pirate's mansion) and titcrow's all about kidnapping infants to nurse with her toxic milk. (So they die and she has to kidnap more children, and so on.) It'd be kind of a strange symbol for well-intentioned, altruistic people.

It's more a symbol of a futile, selfish search for something unattainable, only resulting in the death of innocents.

SpudCat
Mar 12, 2012

I like Uncle Lemuel, seems like a swell guy.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Cresce is a good shot at an actual meritocracy but of course there's some glass ceilings in there, and they think they literally own everything. The peaceguard patrols in the neighboring countries are pretty much just spies that occasionally do policework.

Also the whole war between Alderode and Cresce was actually started by Cresce; however many hundreds/thousands of years ago Alderode was having some massive internal upheaval and Cresce decided to make a grab for the whole country, doing so by slaughtering everyone they ran into. Alderode united and got its poo poo together, then pushed them out. So basically Cresce is responsible for everything, including Alderode kinda sucking.

Wahad
May 19, 2011

There is no escape.

EgoEgress posted:

I like Uncle Lemuel, seems like a swell guy.

But his aim is terrible, if Argenti's words have any truth to them.

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.

Roland Jones posted:

Wait that's who they are? All I remember was them ending up with some people and some ghosts who were unhappy with how lovely things are and then this guy barged out of the basement pissed about something. Definitely don't remember seeing them sacrificing children.

Since screwing up magic can REALLY gently caress up your day (which you can see when Mikaila blows a spell and the khert tries to eat her), every country has a strict set of legal spells. Duane getting an offer to become a composer is that he's getting an offer to write and test new spells to be added to the set of legal spells.

Black tongues disapprove of this and want to have the power to make spells be decentralized. Because their risky, untried spells have the potential for extreme harm, the organization is illegal and widely despised. However, they've managed to invent useful spells, which have been sneakily adopted by various governments (without acknowledging their origins.)

It's the difference between being a dev at Microsoft on project, or being a hacker in your garage, except with much bigger stakes potentially at play.

Slight spoiler for Blacktongue initiation and naming conventions: To prove your devotion to the organization (and weed out infiltrators) you are required to castrate yourself before you can join. Lady Ilganyag, who they're named after, is likewise sterile, which is why she steals children.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Something tells me that Llemuel is going to be completely responsible for Duane's current state.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


duane died in a freak knife throwing accident at the circus

Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!

TheFuzzyLumpkin posted:

Since screwing up magic can REALLY gently caress up your day (which you can see when Mikaila blows a spell and the khert tries to eat her), every country has a strict set of legal spells. Duane getting an offer to become a composer is that he's getting an offer to write and test new spells to be added to the set of legal spells.

Black tongues disapprove of this and want to have the power to make spells be decentralized. Because their risky, untried spells have the potential for extreme harm, the organization is illegal and widely despised. However, they've managed to invent useful spells, which have been sneakily adopted by various governments (without acknowledging their origins.)

It's the difference between being a dev at Microsoft on project, or being a hacker in your garage, except with much bigger stakes potentially at play.

Slight spoiler for Blacktongue initiation and naming conventions: To prove your devotion to the organization (and weed out infiltrators) you are required to castrate yourself before you can join. Lady Ilganyag, who they're named after, is likewise sterile, which is why she steals children.

Where are you getting this from?

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Is it just me or does this guy from a few pages ago look a lot like Sette's mysterious shirtless benefactor:

?

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Deki posted:

Where are you getting this from?
The wiki/formspring. The important stuff is going to be explained- the black tongues in particular have gotten a bit of development but the fact that they've made most of the really useful poo poo that the government uses (like the spells used to create plods) hasn't been touched on yet in the comic.

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.

Deki posted:

Where are you getting this from?

Glass really enjoys explaining her worldbuilding on the old Formspring/new Ask.fm. I really enjoy worldbuilding and asking questions about other people's worlds, so I'm responsible for about 20% of the anon questions on the Formspring, and I'm working my way back up to that number on the new ask.fm.

She doesn't spoil plot points, only explains more in-depth how the world works, especially for things that might not show up as part of the main plot. She also talks about her creative process and how the world was developed.

The wiki is actually pretty useless, there is just not a lot of stuff in it and I don't think anybody really updates it.

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Takezio
Nov 7, 2011
The only thing the wiki really updates is its Tainish-English section, for phrases in the comic.

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