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TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.

Hallgerd posted:

We know Bodie's in with this guy. Duane's also no fan of Black Tongues. I'm figuring the guy in the flashback has something to do with Duane's eventual fate due to the Bodie connection and, you know, the fact he basically gave over Duane to the Frummagems.

Quigley came out with the Black Tongue comment after noticing Duane 'stank of undeath' and Quigley's rumoured to have at least associated with them.

I kinda wonder if the red vial he's holding in the last flashback might be something similar to the one Sette's controlling dead-Duane with too.

Correction: the shadwe's in with that guy, not Bodie. Bodie is the black-haired rear end in a top hat councilor; the shadwe is the old dude. That guy is Bastion Winalils, and since Bastion gave Sette that amulet to control Duane during the night, it's a pretty done deal that he's at least up on what Duane is at minimum, or was directly responsible for it at maximum.

Since Duane admires the shadwe so much, and clearly the shadwe likes him a great deal, it'll be interesting to see how this turns out. Bodie is insecure enough in his own power to run this plan by the shadwe before just running off and doing it, which means either the shadwe is extremely powerful or Bodie isn't. I can see him having a great deal of influence on the whole face-punching situation.

The smoke eels are extrusions from the khert caused by negative emotions. They show up when there's a lot of death and pain.. If you gently caress up a spell as badly as Mikaila did, they are one of the numerous ways the khert will try to destroy you, in order to "correct" local reality. Sometimes you'll just start dissolving, sometimes you get attacked by whatever thing the khert pulls out of its butt, etc etc.

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Goffer
Apr 4, 2007
"..."
This flashback is happening in the distant past, right? Considering at the time Alderode seems like it is on the verge of civil war, yet Quigley's Alderode was in the middle of a war with Cresce, it feels like there's been a bit of a time dilation.

Also still waiting for Murkoph to make an appearance.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

I like how Duane's daughter immediately knows he punched the guy.

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

Nanomashoes posted:

I like how Duane's daughter immediately knows he punched the guy.

It was as mother foretold, for she knows all things Duane

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Lemuel, these expressions you have been making lately are worrisome. Those are Bad Guy expressions. (Duane's expressions, or at least the one in the third panel of the latest page, continue to be great though.)

SpudCat
Mar 12, 2012

Uncle Lemon's gonna be a boss fight, I think. Perhaps Duane and Sette will encounter him in the present, given that Alderode's attempting to invade Cresce.

Also, is Lemuel Duane's older or younger brother? I can't seem to recall if it's been mentioned one way or another.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

EgoEgress posted:

Also, is Lemuel Duane's older or younger brother? I can't seem to recall if it's been mentioned one way or another.

Duane looks older.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
These two are still hilarious. Also, wow, after everything, that's what finally makes Lemuel mad? (Admittedly that'd tick me off too, but still, considering everything else he's tolerated that seems relatively minor.)

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.
I'm getting vibes Lemuel's reluctance to marry is less about his career and more about his not liking girls.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


TheFuzzyLumpkin posted:

I'm getting vibes Lemuel's reluctance to marry is less about his career and more about his not liking girls.

You could almost say he's being a bit queer about the issue.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Well that got pretty serious; even Mikaila enjoying herself and Duane's "~IMAGINATION~" spell couldn't completely lighten it. (Also, confirmation that Duane's the older one. (Also also, drat, that dragon thing has some gnarly teeth.))

Unrelated, I just noticed that the red on Duane's hands is actually part of the gloves; at first I noticed a lack of fingernails and thought they either weren't drawn or got scorched off too (augh), then went back to check things and noticed the seams on the gloves going along the red as well as the brown parts. Went back further, to when he got burnt and before that, and yep, he's just got a weird pair of gloves. Hand's still hosed up underneath no doubt, but it's better than my previous notion that he was waving his bloody appendages around during the sermon and meeting and such.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:33 on May 15, 2013

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Someone is very confident that being a highly skilled specialist provides complete immunity to punching political leaders in the face.

Political leaders who are planning genocide, consider you an inferior breed of man, and don't hold your profession in high esteem to begin with.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

!

Cat Mattress posted:

Someone is very confident that being a highly skilled specialist provides complete immunity to punching political leaders in the face.

Political leaders who are planning genocide, consider you an inferior breed of man, and don't hold your profession in high esteem to begin with.

Hey, best wright in centuries. Surely there isn't even the remotest risk of his being demoted to attack zombie and losing most of his family to murder, or anything ludicrous like that.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Roland Jones posted:

Well that got pretty serious; even Mikaila enjoying herself and Duane's "~IMAGINATION~" spell couldn't completely lighten it. (Also, confirmation that Duane's the older one. (Also also, drat, that dragon thing has some gnarly teeth.))

Unrelated, I just noticed that the red on Duane's hands is actually part of the gloves; at first I noticed a lack of fingernails and thought they either weren't drawn or got scorched off too (augh), then went back to check things and noticed the seams on the gloves going along the red as well as the brown parts. Went back further, to when he got burnt and before that, and yep, he's just got a weird pair of gloves. Hand's still hosed up underneath no doubt, but it's better than my previous notion that he was waving his bloody appendages around during the sermon and meeting and such.
Formspring says the gloves are special and given to very exceptional wrights so stupid people don't challenge them to duels and get killed.

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.
Lemuel definitely has SOMETHING shady going on. He's crying on the second page, that's a little much even for this situation.

Duane is definitely cruisin' for a bruisin', I'm pretty sure he's about to get fired.

Drakyn
Dec 26, 2012

Fabricated posted:

Formspring says the gloves are special and given to very exceptional wrights so stupid people don't challenge them to duels and get killed.
Gets mentioned in that short story that went up under 'Miscellany" a few days ago, too.

quote:

“You’ll have Thorns some day,” he predicted. Duane thought of the blood-coloured gloves worn by the most lethal wrights, and wasn’t certain he wanted them.

Takezio
Nov 7, 2011
Wow, he's still alive. Bit frayed around the edges, but that's a hell of a lot better than I expected.

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.
We don't know what he was signing though, or if he's still even got a job. He may be unemployed and facing destitution.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Mikaila status: Still awesome. Also horrible. But awesome.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

This slow-motion shoe-dropping sequence is like the bullet time of preparing to be very, very sad.

If Duane's entire family gets killed then Alderode can gently caress right off.

Drakyn
Dec 26, 2012

T.G. Xarbala posted:

This slow-motion shoe-dropping sequence is like the bullet time of preparing to be very, very sad.

If Duane's entire family gets killed then Alderode can gently caress right off.
I'm very curious as to HOW the horrible thing happens now. If it's as straight forward as "Bodie says hello" *family disemboweled, then Duane* I'd expect Duane to be brofisting Quigley on the subject of How Alderode Is The Pits, not still a patriotic loyalist. Unless he got a little selective editing of memories...but then it'd be weird that he keeps flashbacking to his daughter, and what's the point of erasing things that can torture him if you're being cruel? Maybe he thinks the system's fine but the people in charge of it need replacing... but a system that permits something awful to happen to your family would be a preeettty big hurdle to overcome even for a diehard 'my-country-right-or-wrong' man.
Right now, my money's on "deeply suspicious accident pinned on Cresce somehow."

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Drakyn posted:

I'm very curious as to HOW the horrible thing happens now. If it's as straight forward as "Bodie says hello" *family disemboweled, then Duane* I'd expect Duane to be brofisting Quigley on the subject of How Alderode Is The Pits, not still a patriotic loyalist. Unless he got a little selective editing of memories...but then it'd be weird that he keeps flashbacking to his daughter, and what's the point of erasing things that can torture him if you're being cruel? Maybe he thinks the system's fine but the people in charge of it need replacing... but a system that permits something awful to happen to your family would be a preeettty big hurdle to overcome even for a diehard 'my-country-right-or-wrong' man.
Right now, my money's on "deeply suspicious accident pinned on Cresce somehow."
Duane's country is the only barrier between him and a continent of people who would kill him on the spot for his religion. Basically, Alderode is the only place where he and his family could have lived in relative safety.

Also the rest of his church is pretty nice to him and the whole military mindset.

I'm still not convinced his family is going to die. I'm not sure even the "I'm so cute! Man, I love being alive! Aren't I cute!?" daughter is doomed. Duane flat out said he doesn't ever want to return to Alderode. Since he still thinks the country is a model for the world to follow, I imagine it's less that he hates Alderode/has nothing to go home to but rather that he doesn't want to chance seeing his family again as an undead monstrosity (which would be extra traumatic to them since the undead are ESPECIALLY offensive to their religion).

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Fun Shoe

Drakyn posted:

I'm very curious as to HOW the horrible thing happens now. If it's as straight forward as "Bodie says hello" *family disemboweled, then Duane* I'd expect Duane to be brofisting Quigley on the subject of How Alderode Is The Pits, not still a patriotic loyalist. Unless he got a little selective editing of memories...but then it'd be weird that he keeps flashbacking to his daughter, and what's the point of erasing things that can torture him if you're being cruel? Maybe he thinks the system's fine but the people in charge of it need replacing... but a system that permits something awful to happen to your family would be a preeettty big hurdle to overcome even for a diehard 'my-country-right-or-wrong' man.
Right now, my money's on "deeply suspicious accident pinned on Cresce somehow."

When Duane got eaten by the wandering root he had a flashback to a what appeared to be Lemuel dying in battle against Cresce, and some of his comments about Cresce imply that he died there. I'm guessing his punishment primarily consists of getting shipped to the front lines or something, and that's where Bad Stuff happens, which is why he's still an ultra-patriot.

TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.
I'm not sure that's a flashback to Lem dying. It's Duane's hand - he's wearing the thorn glove - in a pool of blood, with Lem's eyes (probably) reflected in the blade. I'm pretty sure it's Lem's sword, since it has that squared-off tip you can see in the previous page, and it's got blood on it, implying he was stabbing somebody else.

http://www.casualvillain.com/Unsounded/comic/ch01/ch01_17.html

I have this suspicion between that page, Lem's comment of "I will solve it," and his crying, Lem may have had something to do with Duane's undeath.

Minor background info about how Duane's undeath-ness works: Glass has said that you could not pull yourself together post-death the way Duane did without being a tacit caster, that he wasn't able to talk for a while and when he first "woke up" the only sense he had was his ears (he has those fake glass eyes.) Basically whatever happened to Duane, if done to say, Quigley, would have failed. That indicates to me that Duane got set up in a serious way.

SpudCat
Mar 12, 2012

Aww, father daughter bonding. It would be a shame if something were to happen to them in the next few pages!

This slow build up to what we all know is going to occur is killing me. :smith:

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.

EgoEgress posted:

Aww, father daughter bonding. It would be a shame if something were to happen to them in the next few pages!

This slow build up to what we all know is going to occur is killing me. :smith:

Me too. :(

I want more happy endings.

Yes, I know that isn't exactly an ending, and that there's a lot that can, and likely will, go wrong. But dammit, it's happy now and that's good enough, for now. :(

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Well, at least Duane picked up a slight inkling that something is coming.

Takezio
Nov 7, 2011
...poo poo's about to get weird again, isn't it?

Roger Explosion
Jan 26, 2006

THAT'S SPECTACULAR.

Takezio posted:

...poo poo's about to get weird again, isn't it?
This was never a thing that stopped from being a thing.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
This is Unsounded. poo poo is in a perpetual state of getting weird.

Hotwire
Mar 11, 2006

hehehe
I think we can now state that poo poo has moved on from weird to real.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
Ohhhhhhhhh, interesting. I hadn't considered this angle. Glamour enforcement squads to look like Crescians: execute dissidents anonymously while sowing paranoia among the general population.

Wwaaaaiit... Duane isn't stupid enough to believe that Cresce inserted a group of thugs deep into Alderode just to harass random undercastes, is he? Wow. If he is, and that's why Duane is so racist, he's an even bigger dork than I thought.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

It's definitely odd that Crescians would indulge in slurs based on the Aldish caste system...:raise:

SpudCat
Mar 12, 2012

You know, Duane wasn't exactly my favorite character before this chapter, but this building up of his backstory has served to make me appreciate his character more- at least enough to make me feel bad for him in his death scene. :( All that really remains to be seen now is if the child mortality count for this comic is about to go up another notch.

I do think the idea of glamoured (they gotta be glamoured right?) government thugs running around killing dissidents and driving up Aldish nationalism is pretty creepy and interesting.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
I am actually somewhat sure the kid survives at this point. The author has only really killed people with very little characterization so far and Mikaila has gotten an awful of it in just a couple dozen pages for her to be cut down in the street with her dad.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Fabricated posted:

The author has only really killed people with very little characterization so far

I thought Ephsephin had good characterization, with personality quirks and a backstory. (Of course he was a low-level villain meant to be both loathed and pitied; which isn't really a safe characterization.)

Drakyn
Dec 26, 2012

Fabricated posted:

I am actually somewhat sure the kid survives at this point. The author has only really killed people with very little characterization so far and Mikaila has gotten an awful of it in just a couple dozen pages for her to be cut down in the street with her dad.
Honestly, so much characterization being packed in so densely in such a small space makes me MORE nervous. That, and she's been having a great day aside from the woops forgot to remind dad not to punch some man now he's cross thing. I mean
-It's her birthday.
-She got to hang around with a boy she is crushing on for half the day.
-Her uncle let her ride a crazy skyflythingy.
-Her daddy just promised her he'd teach her how to do magic crazy stuff that she had pretty much zero hope of ever learning any other way, ever, ever, ever.
With that setup, I'm dreading that the only way she's getting out of this alive is if surviving makes her life so lousy she wishes she hadn't.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
http://www.casualvillain.com/Unsounded/comic/ch07/ch07_97.html

:stare: Things got bad. Reaaaal bad.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


drat, now that's just plain vicious.

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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Drakyn posted:

Honestly, so much characterization being packed in so densely in such a small space makes me MORE nervous. That, and she's been having a great day aside from the woops forgot to remind dad not to punch some man now he's cross thing. I mean
-It's her birthday.
-She got to hang around with a boy she is crushing on for half the day.
-Her uncle let her ride a crazy skyflythingy.
-Her daddy just promised her he'd teach her how to do magic crazy stuff that she had pretty much zero hope of ever learning any other way, ever, ever, ever.
With that setup, I'm dreading that the only way she's getting out of this alive is if surviving makes her life so lousy she wishes she hadn't.

Yeah, maybe I'm a natural pessimist, but she's getting so much characterization in such a short time that I can't help but assume it's to make her death as tragic as possible. Which is not a bad thing, and if you have to introduce a character whose tragic death is a major motivator for one of your main characters, you sure as heck better make sure the reader feels it.

Also it's not confirmed whether that vision of Mikaila was just a hallucination or not.

Expecting the worst, though hoping for the best.

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