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The worry over this is kind of silly, in my opinion. People are worrying about this guy being one of her RP characters, but all the characters were and yet most people enjoyed the comic before that. As for the content... Yeah, I can definitely see people being bothered by that, but, well, we already have Starfish, and despite what someone said he wasn't subtle at all (one of his first actions was putting his hand up a child's shirt for crying out loud) so that isn't really a change either. In other words, worrying that it's going to become a "Mary Sue rape-a-thon" is stupid because nothing's changed. It's still the author and her friends' old characters in a world where everything is terrible. Unless the author lost control of where she was going with things, again, it's still the same as it was from the start, you just know a bit of the behind-the-scenes stuff now.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Hope this Murk fellow doesn't stick around. I know Unsounded can get pretty dark at times and deals with unsavory topics but come on*. This is still Friday's update, it was a multi-page deal. Today's isn't up yet. Also I don't know why freeform RPers get weird, even though I was one. It's a thing that happens I guess. Edit: Actually, forgot, no new pages today anyway. Guess we're waiting until Wednesday to see if Sette puts her knife in this guy's eye; people said he wasn't affected but he is actually bleeding in the last panel, she just scratched him is the problem. Also that he's probably dead anyway. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Feb 18, 2013 |
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:Starfish and his crew are pretty blatantly absent any kind of redeeming qualities and are introduced as unsympathetic monsters even before you meet them, and yet most of their really heinous stuff sort of happens offscreen Why do people keep saying this? One of Starfish's first actions after being introduced is to molest a little girl (sticking his hand up her shirt and feeling her up) before sending her off to have all her organs removed. This is the third or fourth time someone's tried to say that Starfish's crew did most of their bad stuff offscreen or that their evil was relatively subtle or whatever, but it wasn't. It was horrible and disturbing from the beginning, and it was always pretty drat blatant. Really, I don't know what's worse/stupider about this ongoing panic here, people freaking out over the new villain because he's pretty and the author likes his character, or that they're ignoring/forgetting/waving away the existing child-raping and murdering bastard's actions because, I dunno, he's fat and ugly and therefore it's not a big deal or something. Not being okay with those things in general is more than understandable, but it looks like most of the people in here are freaking out because they've convinced themselves the author drew the latest strips with one hand occupied based more or less on the supposition and words of other people in this same topic freaking out over etc. It'd be fascinating if it weren't so stupid.
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Feb 21, 2013 15:38
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Megaspel posted:Yo, what is the deal with Duane's face anyway? I get that it looks more grotesque when he's not in control for artistic purposes and that, but I just don't know whether he has a nose or not. Did it drop off at some point? Will he ever get his nose back? These are the important questions. It's not just artistic purposes, he has a glamour or something over himself. So I'd assume that no, he doesn't actually have a nose, you just can't tell most of the time because of his magic.
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Feb 27, 2013 02:15
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Your actions crush my SOUL! Duane is such a dork and it's awesome. Also I really hope the twist isn't that the kids and family died because they're great too.
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Mar 20, 2013 05:39
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Idunn posted:So, uh... The other banner is one on racial purity. It means what you think it means (though they'd also accept you just bringing the people in I bet). Though, yeah, last page I was thinking, wow, these guys are actually pretty bad. This one, it's looking like all the bad things they've said are true, rather than patriotically demonizing them. drat. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Mar 29, 2013 |
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Mar 29, 2013 06:11
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Gabriel Pope posted:I suspect part of that is nationalism talking. Cresce has a hyper-egalitarian quasi-socialist thing going on and Duane does not approve. Thing is, in the past it seemed like the people talking bad about Alderode were doing something similar; while we knew the caste system was real other than that and one or two other things we didn't have reason to believe that it was as bad as, well, as what we just saw. It would also explain the way Cresce is getting involved in everything in the countries around it and whatnot.
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Mar 29, 2013 16:54
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Have we seen this guy before? Something about him seems familiar; was he the guy from Sette's flashback with her father, perhaps? I don't remember where that was and I don't want to go through the whole comic to check.
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Apr 5, 2013 08:39
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T.G. Xarbala posted:In Cresce, greed is a crime, the idea of which I find rather unsettling. I do wonder if they're anywhere near as bad as Alderode, though, because Alderode is bad. Also note that Duane (and possibly others?) referred to their queen with less-than-pleasant terms and made her sound like some evil tyrant. While that could just be nationalism and rumors, considering how involved Cresce is with its neighbors in underhanded ways on her orders, how the leadership of real communist countries (or really just monarchies and dictatorships in general) tended to be, and the other things we know of Cresce, I doubt she is a friendly person. Also Quigley's tendency to find unpleasant partners is not surprising, considering that basically every faction in the comic's world is terrible. Even those guards who seemed like decent guys are part of a group that's extending Cresce's meddling hand into its neighbors; meanwhile there's Sette's criminal family, Duane's weird church, and so on. I think the only one that's not confirmed to be terrible in some manner is the one that young slave kid ended up with that the father who lives in the basement or whatever is part of, and we haven't seen anything of him/them so that's not saying much. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Apr 6, 2013 |
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Apr 6, 2013 11:48
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Tubgirl Cosplay posted:You mean the group of crazy black magicians who do stuff like sacrifice children? Wait that's who they are? All I remember was them ending up with some people and some ghosts who were unhappy with how lovely things are and then this guy barged out of the basement pissed about something. Definitely don't remember seeing them sacrificing children.
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Apr 6, 2013 23:03
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I can totally see why Duane would hit this guy now. If it weren't for the fact that it'd gently caress him over I'd want him to do it, too.
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Apr 22, 2013 15:28
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I know it'll end badly but man, that is satisfying. Also, "pissmop"? Considering the way hair color and Alderode castes/races align, that's pretty blatantly a slur, right to Duane's face. Wow. Though, checking out the wiki, he also called Duane a traitor based solely on his caste, so I guess we already knew this. Still, what an rear end in a top hat. Edit: I mean we already know he's a dick, what with suggesting unleashing that one plague and hinting he's behind the one that already exists, but it's still a bit surprising to see such openness about his dickery. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Apr 26, 2013 10:31
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Yeah Man posted:You really have to wonder why Duane is so loyal to a country that considers him a traitor and scum because of his birth. Alderode is the only country where the Gefendur faith hasn't crushed Ssaelism, the religion he follows, and in fact puts it on equal standing (if not slightly higher; it's because of Ssaelism's beliefs about corpses that plods aren't used there and other such things). Besides that, it's his homeland, and apart from scumbags and certain institutionalized things he's living the relatively good life, even about to be promoted to composer despite his caste. He isn't living Quigley's life or anything.
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Apr 26, 2013 19:00
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Lemuel, these expressions you have been making lately are worrisome. Those are Bad Guy expressions. (Duane's expressions, or at least the one in the third panel of the latest page, continue to be great though.)
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May 8, 2013 06:40
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These two are still hilarious. Also, wow, after everything, that's what finally makes Lemuel mad? (Admittedly that'd tick me off too, but still, considering everything else he's tolerated that seems relatively minor.)
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May 13, 2013 08:07
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Well that got pretty serious; even Mikaila enjoying herself and Duane's "~IMAGINATION~" spell couldn't completely lighten it. (Also, confirmation that Duane's the older one. (Also also, drat, that dragon thing has some gnarly teeth.)) Unrelated, I just noticed that the red on Duane's hands is actually part of the gloves; at first I noticed a lack of fingernails and thought they either weren't drawn or got scorched off too (augh), then went back to check things and noticed the seams on the gloves going along the red as well as the brown parts. Went back further, to when he got burnt and before that, and yep, he's just got a weird pair of gloves. Hand's still hosed up underneath no doubt, but it's better than my previous notion that he was waving his bloody appendages around during the sermon and meeting and such. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:33 on May 15, 2013 |
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May 15, 2013 06:30
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Mikaila status: Still awesome. Also horrible. But awesome.
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May 22, 2013 05:38
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This is Unsounded. poo poo is in a perpetual state of getting weird.
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Jun 5, 2013 21:11
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This is a pretty good demonstration of why Duane has those gloves, I suppose.
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Jun 10, 2013 17:52
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One of them did say "you can't do that to a cleric"; if they were actually from Cresce I doubt they would have cared about that, seeing as people like him would be put to death in their country.
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Jun 26, 2013 07:00
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The thing that bothers me about it (besides all the reasons already stated) is that it is based on almost nothing in the comic. It started before he even appeared because people made assumptions after reading her off-site writing and such. If no one had seen that, this would be very different, I imagine; lot of people still wouldn't like the guy (I wouldn't, and don't), but we wouldn't have people worrying that he's the harbinger of the comic suddenly turning to poo poo out of nowhere.
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Jul 2, 2013 15:08
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Well, that's the funniest picture of a rotten corpse I have seen in quite some time.
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Jul 19, 2013 07:05
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Besides all the above, the people who complain about Murkoph have been focusing the discussion of the comic on him, to the exclusion of all else sometimes. This is for a guy who's been in... What, less than twenty pages total? Despite the doomsaying the comic isn't about him, but you wouldn't be able to tell looking at this thread. Personally I'm hating the conversations about Murkoph more than I dislike him, and he's not a character type I'm particularly fond of. Anyway, it's great that the comic's back. Toma and Elka are entertaining and, based on their conversation, are looking into Sette's adoptive father, so we may get more info on that guy soon. Also, looks like we're getting back to Duane, and he'll be actually conscious and not a mindless zombie or hallucinating ghost for it even.
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Oct 12, 2013 16:30
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Either Duane or Murkoph most likely; if he's been spying on that place magically he's definitely seen the former and quite possibly the latter as well.
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Well that doesn't look pretty. Also that Quigley would talk about the Black Tongues like that but work with Starfish... Hm. Meanwhile I'm wondering if the "perversion" is meant to be Sette, rather than Duane. She is the one who first entered the Khert and all. Wonder what's up with her, really, seeing as she's so different from, well, most everyone else. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Oct 28, 2013 |
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Oct 28, 2013 06:51
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Good grief, Duane's limbs look positively ancient. Just how long ago did he die?
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Nov 6, 2013 07:37
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:Oh neat, now Duane is even more of a father figure to Sette! That is one way of putting it. Also you're horrible, and so am I because I laughed.
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Glagha posted:I've always been kind of interested in Duane's cognitive dissonance related to Aldish culture. He has all these romantic notions about his homeland, but we get to see how monstrous some of the things Alderode does are. I mean, it's kind of understandable considering it's pretty much the only world he knew before his death, and there seems to be a really strong propaganda machine going on in Alderode, but it's interesting to see how he justifies that sort of thing in his head. Besides the above about it being the only place where he wouldn't be murdered for his religion, it isn't hard to demonize Cresce because, frankly, Cresce is also terrible. They're taking over all the countries around them, they practice the nastier bits of the Gefendur faith (like the whole twin-murdering thing), lot of its people seem to be pretty drat racist against people from Alderode, etc. Other parts of the world aren't always great either; that place Sette's from is apparently a crime-filled hellhole, for example. The rest of the world being so terrible makes it easy to ignore or explain away all the terrible things about the place you're biased towards.
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Gally posted:I find it interesting that everybody goes 'every country is terrible!!' rather than every country has its pluses and minuses. I think its a pretty realistic setting in that aspect. Well, when your minuses are things like "murders everyone who does not follow the national faith" and "has a horribly regressive and racist institutionalized caste system", it's not really a matter of pros and cons. Them all being terrible in different ways doesn't mean that they aren't still all terrible. Because they are.
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Nov 25, 2013 22:14
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While neither seems particularly healthy, Sette's method of dealing with her feelings is far more amusing.
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Jackard posted:What, did Rahm think he was acting Aldish, or something else? A.o.D. posted:What the hell... WHERE ARE HIS FEEEEEEEET?!? Huh, maybe this things are related; Rahm, rather than (just) putting the glamour on Jivi for being a bit racist to Matty, could have done that for him being a dick about Jivi being blind, he himself having lost his legs or something. And they did establish that you can get new (magic) eyes, so new (also magic) legs are likewise presumably possible.
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Just noticed Sette in the background of panel two. Actually, she's closer to the center than Jivi and Matty. Wow, how did I miss that.
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From a disagreement over who handles this to attempting literal backstabbing, well then. Turns out the racists are not good people. Who knew.
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Jan 8, 2014 07:22
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Why on earth would Sette be recruiting Murkoph? As far as she knows he's still trapped in the Khert. She has no idea that he's slipping out or whatever's going on there. I know the people here freak out whenever he shows up but, well, he hasn't even known up. "Sette's going to recruit the rapeghost that she doesn't even know could be where she's going" is a crazy idea.
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Sette eloquently expresses her opinion on working with Murkoph.
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Rannos22 posted:He's the author's wank material and dungeons & dragons character forcibly inserted into the plot. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you've not read as many bad webcomic as I've to see where this might be leading. All of the characters are from the author's role playing group, though. Murkoph is not unique in that respect.
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Aug 6, 2014 19:57
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Jackpot. (Which I actually said out loud upon seeing that final panel, because drat.)
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Aug 13, 2014 09:07
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You're not cool, Sette. Stop trying to pretend you're cool. That was pretty cool.
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Aug 22, 2014 21:40
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Cat Mattress posted:"Man, are you alright?" seems like the appropriate thing to say after you accidentally cut off both of a colleague's arms. You never know. Maybe they actually are all right. The "Oh, my poo poo!" right before it is pretty good too. Guy with the sword and guy without arms are having very different reactions to what just happened.
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