ronya posted:

The educated Dutch-educated post-colonial elite in Java succeeding in defining an Indonesian identity for the rest of modern Indonesia, in the same way that the elite Malays of the new Malaysian redefined Malay to include the new ethnicities. All things considered, this was probably one of the more successful "draw a line in the sand/jungle and call it a day" post-colonial border drawing.

The Monkey Man posted:

This is a Korean map from 1402. That's Europe on the left, Korea on the right, and Japan way down on the bottom right (rotated 90 degrees for some reason)

SombreroAgnew posted:

German Partitions

The Moon Monster posted:

Is India on there anywhere? I can't tell if that big island is Sri Lanka or Hainan.

R. Mute posted:

The best part is the Ottoman Empire cutting off their own head.

Reveilled posted:

Here's the partition plan Yves Guyot floated for the event of a French total victory in WWI:


It's unlear if it's deliberate or not but it appears to suggest giving the entirety of the Brest-Litovsk area to Poland.

Crowsbeak posted:

Woodrow Wilson's wonderful idea for a Armenian state. I'm sure the Kurds and Turks in that planned nation would have been fine.

quote:

At the end of World War II, plans were made in the Netherlands to annex German territory as compensation for the damages caused by the war. In October 1945, the Dutch state asked Germany for 25 billion guilders in reparations, but in February 1945 it had already been established at the Yalta Conference that reparations would not be given in monetary form. The plan which was worked out in most detail was the one made by Frits Bakker-Schut, and hence became known as the Bakker-Schut Plan.

In its most ambitious form, this plan included the cities of Cologne, Aachen, Münster and Osnabrück, and would have enlarged the country by 30 to 50 percent. The local population had to be either deported, or, when still speaking the original Low German dialects, Dutchified. The plan was largely dropped after U.S. dismissal of it. Eventually, an area of a total size of 69 km2 was allocated to the Netherlands. Almost all of this was returned to West Germany in 1963 after Germany paid the Netherlands 280 million German marks.

Many Germans living in the Netherlands were however declared 'enemy subjects' after World War II ended and put into an internment camp in an operation called Black Tulip. A total of 3,691 Germans were ultimately deported. The UK responded by expelling 100,000 Dutch citizens living in occupied Germany.

TheImmigrant posted:

I've always understood that the 'glue' for modern Indonesia is Bahasa Indonesia.

Dusseldorf posted:

animal math posted:

The Pig War was a dispute in 1859 about where the boundary between the US and Canada should be between Washington and Vancouver Island. The blue line was favoured by the US, the red line was favoured by Britain/Canada, and the green line was the compromise.

animal math posted:

The Pig War was a dispute in 1859 about where the boundary between the US and Canada should be between Washington and Vancouver Island. The blue line was favoured by the US, the red line was favoured by Britain/Canada, and the green line was the compromise.

System Metternich posted:

And finally: anyone care to guess what this map depicts?

LP97S posted:

One of my favorites, the Belgian enclave of Baarle-Nassua which is in the Nertherlands.



And then the towns of Derby Line, USA and Stanstead, Canada

R. Mute posted:

The best part is the Ottoman Empire cutting off their own head.

Fister Roboto posted:

Always my favorite map/political cartoon:



I just love everyone ganging up on Austria-Hungary to steal his boots.

LP97S posted:

Thanks Bush for starting this and thanks Obama for continuing this poo poo.

Stefu posted:

"Maximalist" Greater Finland vision from the 20s-30s.

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Dahala Khagrabari #51 is an Indian enclave belonging to the District of Cooch Behar in the State of West Bengal.

It is one of the smaller (7000 m2, about the size of a football field) of the Indo-Bangladesh enclaves that comprise the 106 Indian exclaves inside Bangladesh and 92 Bangladeshi exclaves inside India. However, it is the only third-order enclave in the world.

Dahala Khagrabari #51 is completely encircled by the Bangladeshi village of Upanchowki Bhajni, 110, which is contained in the Indian village of Balapara Khagrabari, itself contained in the Rajshahi Division, Bangladesh. Thus Dahala Khagrabari is the enclave of an enclave of an enclave. In practice, it is a parcel of land used for farming and is not actually inhabited. It is separated by only a few meters of Bangladeshi land from its first-order Indian enclave.
Dahala Khagrabari, the only third-order enclave in the world (Maps)

Curiously, the owner of this enclave is a Bangladeshi farmer who lives in the enclave surrounding Dahala Khagrabari #51.[1]

Despite its small size, Dahala Khagrabari #51 is not the smallest of the enclaves found on the Indo-Bangladesh border, the smallest being Panisala #79, an Indian enclave of 0.109 hectares in the Rangpur Division of Bangladesh.[2]

Due to the lack of governance and deplorable conditions for the residents of the enclaves, a long-festering problem, in September 2011, the governments of India and Bangladesh announced an intention to resolve the issue by means of swapping 162 enclaves, giving residents a choice of nationality.

brakeless posted:

Well, they tried their best.

A Buttery Pastry posted:

To be fair, they didn't actually try for the "Maximalist" idea. The Continuation War really was just an attempt to take back the land they had lost in the Winter War, not one of those insane nationalist projects which floated around in Europe in the 20th century.

brakeless posted:

Well yeah, I wasn't being 100% serious, although the bolded part isn't strictly true. The goal of the offensive phase was to take and hold the so-called three-isthmus line, which you can see 2/3rds complete, quite far beyond the pre-1939 borders. There was quite a bit of nationalist project tied up in the war too.

The Monkey Man posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahala_Khagrabari

wikipedia posted:

The enclaves were used as stakes in card or chess games centuries ago between two regional kings, the Raja of Cooch Behar and the Maharaja of Rangpur.[3] The little territories were the result of a confused outcome of a treaty between the Kingdom of Koch Bihar and the Mughal Empire.[4]

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Were they actually planning to annex those territories, or were they just bargaining chips for negotiations with Stalin though? The latter is the story I've always been told/have read, but of course anti-Communist and nationalist rhetoric might have mislead me.

brakeless posted:

Well yeah, I wasn't being 100% serious, although the bolded part isn't strictly true. The goal of the offensive phase was to take and hold the so-called three-isthmus line, which you can see 2/3rds complete, quite far beyond the pre-1939 borders. There was quite a bit of nationalist project tied up in the war too.

Mayor Dave posted:

Is there any sort of modern integration movement for Karelia anymore?

i poo poo trains posted:

I actually have a politically loaded map hanging right behind me! (Warning: big)

I didn't bother taking it off the wall for the picture, but it gets the point across.

i poo poo trains posted:

I actually have a politically loaded map hanging right behind me! (Warning: big)

I didn't bother taking it off the wall for the picture, but it gets the point across.

Crowsbeak posted:

Woodrow Wilson's wonderful idea for a Armenian state. I'm sure the Kurds and Turks in that planned nation would have been fine.

Farecoal posted:

I don't get it

Farecoal posted:

I don't get it

Aliquid posted: