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abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


Is Turkey part of China there?

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QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Farecoal posted:

I don't get it :saddowns:

From about 1805 onward the United States claimed what is today British Columbia while the British claimed modern day Washington. It was a hotly debated issue between the United States and United Kingdom, who shared joint occupancy of the territory with the Americans. For Americans, it was an opportunity to expand the United States while maintaining the delicate balance between the slave and free states. For the British, Vancouver was the nexus of fur trade. America and Britain nearly went to war in 1845 after President Polk adopted annexation of the entire territory to his platform. It is still a popular Point of Diversion in alternate history.

I am rather surprised by the map's suggestion that Russia owns everything west of the Rocky Mountains.

Abel Wingnut posted:

Is Turkey part of China there?

Turkey and China are suppose to be demilitarized minor states. The Soviets had a few crazy maps of their own. Let me see if I can find one.

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Feb 3, 2013

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008

Abel Wingnut posted:

Is Turkey part of China there?

I have no clue, that map is crazy without the End Times prophecy.



Also, I don't know if horribly jingoistic video games are appropriate for this thread.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

My favorite part of this map is Hebrew Land.

Of course, there's a different (ethnicity) Land that is at least somewhat relevant even today.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

The terrifying world of 2053.



I just want to point out that the capital of the Greater United States appears to be Kingston and Bangladesh appears to have sunk beneath the waves.

The Monkey Man
Jun 10, 2012

HERD U WERE TALKIN SHIT

QuoProQuid posted:

The terrifying world of 2053.



I just want to point out that the capital of the Greater United States appears to be Kingston and Bangladesh appears to have sunk beneath the waves.

Is Antarctica Irish or something?

EDIT:

The Monkey Man fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Feb 3, 2013

az jan jananam
Sep 6, 2011
HI, I'M HARDCORE SAX HERE TO DROP A NICE JUICY TURD OF A POST FROM UP ON HIGH
A map that supposedly came from some small Egyptian Christian expat website showing the proposed division of Egypt. It caused an outrage inside Egypt, assisted by Egyptian media demagogues. I added a translation of the legend.



Also North Africa in total-

az jan jananam fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Feb 3, 2013

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax
e: something stupid

Frostwerks fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Feb 3, 2013

Number Two Stunna
Nov 8, 2009

FUCK

I'm not sure what I'm looking at here

QVC Drinking Game
Jun 23, 2005
What's politically loaded about temperate rainforests?

VVV^^^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperate_rainforest#Global_distribution

penus de milo
Mar 9, 2002

CHAR CHAR
I have no idea what that map is indicating.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax
Taking it down, no problem. I'd rather not derail anything or try to divert this thread otherwise from political stuff.

penus de milo
Mar 9, 2002

CHAR CHAR

Frostwerks posted:

Taking it down, no problem. I'd rather not derail anything or try to divert this thread otherwise from political stuff.

I didn't mean to badger you into taking it down, just that with no label or original filename it's hard to get context for what it's depicting (given that we've had the hog distribution map earlier ITT, it could have been anything)

penus de milo fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Feb 3, 2013

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax
I think I've been looking at google earth a lot and found the geography of the mideast way more varied than at first I thought? It really is way more interesting than its typically portrayed and temperate jungles are amazingly cool.

e: again, just not innately political

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Frostwerks posted:

I think I've been looking at google earth a lot and found the geography of the mideast way more varied than at first I thought? It really is way more interesting than its typically portrayed and temperate jungles are amazingly cool.

e: again, just not innately political
That makes sense, though it would probably be a better fit for a "The World as we don't know it"-thread. Which I guess could actually be kind of cool, approaching misconceptions about places from a different angle.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

And here I thought it was about the steady, unseen invasion by the Japanese/Kiwi alliance.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

ComradeCosmobot posted:

54° 40' or fight!

That was the first thing I had thought of before thinking of the Mexican land borders. Oregon is a bit too far north, but that's the way we thought it should have been.


I love the Pax Americana seeping from this. The US claims all of the islands in the Pacific, save the Galapagos, takes away Azores, Canary, and Cape Verde from the United Africans, annexes Iceland, and gives over the Falklands to South America. Britain gets Madagascar, Australia, and Indonesia a half a world away but continues to maintain a military presence in the newly-formed demilitarized Africa Union, thus invalidating the decolonization.

And, ho-ho-ho, look at the major geopolitical gently caress-up whoever made this map made: Iran is a soviet socialist republic while the Arabian Federated Republics are an independent demilitarized union, with the only military base being in the Gulf of Aden. Think about that for the moment, especially how the Hormuz Strait comes into play. The U.S.S.R. would have pretty much complete control of 90% of the world's oil production, not just within it, but bullying the Arabs for it.

LP97S posted:

Also, I don't know if horribly jingoistic video games are appropriate for this thread.



I thought Greater Korea took over China or something in "Homefront".

QuoProQuid posted:

The terrifying world of 2053.



I just want to point out that the capital of the Greater United States appears to be Kingston and Bangladesh appears to have sunk beneath the waves.

Where is this from, besides Russia?

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Wow, Malaya and Thailand become part of China, and the Commonwealth swallows Indonesia. And Palestine becomes "Hebrewland", it's quite hilarious.

Also Greece has its own federal republic and Turkey is its own independent nation. Two tiny states sandwiched between the USSR and the Western alliance, gee I wonder if some president might try to butt his head in.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Young Freud posted:

Where is this from, besides Russia?

It is from a Mikhail Yuryev's book, The Third Empire. In it he predicts that a Third Russian Empire, the first two being Tsarist Russia and the Soviet Union, will arise by 2015. Following this, Russia will reclaim its Baltic territories and defeat the United States in the ensuing thermonuclear war. By 2025 Russia will own most of Europe, destroy the Vatican and force the Pope into hiding in Latin America.

Mikhail Yuryev is the former chairman of Russia's Council on Economy and Entrepreneurship and has served as Deputy Speaker of the Duma. He is an ultranationalist who believes Russia must reclaim its former glory, reassert its status as an Orthodox nation, and destroy all those who seek to oppose Russian interests. He left government a while back but still has friends within the Duma and Putin's Cabinet.

quote:

“Russia is a great state and must remain as such. This means that our existence as Russians inside Russia, not as nationals of a different country living in this country, however affluent and free it may be, is a value of the highest order.”

“Developing and consolidating the Russian nation and Orthodoxy, and fostering their interests, which in fact are one and the same thing, constitute the major goal for Russia. It has greater significance for us than the interests of other peoples, or religions in Russia.”

“Russia must retain the status of an imperial country.”

“Russia must be a common home to all Russians who live here and abroad; the conditions of our compatriots in other countries is our concern.”

“The people who allege that Western countries and monetary funds of various colors offer the only right methods for building Russia’s national economy and policies are foes.”

“Those who insist that the state has no right to introduce the basics of religion into school curricula on the basis of Orthodox teaching are foes.”

Augster
Aug 5, 2011

Here's a pretty neat site I found. You can click on a state and it'll show what tribes originally lived there, and a little bit about what happened to them since the Removals of the 1800s.
For example:

The Cherokee and Yuchi were pushed all the way to Oklahoma.

http://www.native-languages.org/states.htm

Ograbme
Jul 26, 2003

D--n it, how he nicks 'em
Speaking of Virginia, newly-founded states didn't know what the gently caress:

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

I always liked that little strip of south carolina stretching into the distance

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Meme Emulator posted:

I always liked that little strip of south carolina stretching into the distance

World's most epic panhandle

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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LP97S posted:

Also, I don't know if horribly jingoistic video games are appropriate for this thread.



I like how the Korean empire respects the Canadian and Mexican borders despite it being both out of character and phenomenally dumb from a military standpoint.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien






And some Alsace-Lorraine!

WWI French propaganda, with Alsace-Lorraine on the French side:



1910 German encyclopedia, with Elsass-Lothringen on the German side:



i poo poo trains posted:

I actually have a politically loaded map hanging right behind me! (Warning: big)

I didn't bother taking it off the wall for the picture, but it gets the point across.
Do you know where this map is originally from, by any chance? I'd love to find a copy of it.

Lord Hydronium fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Feb 4, 2013

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx
I would post the a picture of the map, but it's interactive and really cool so here is a link to it instead.

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

A Winner is Jew posted:

I would post the a picture of the map, but it's interactive and really cool so here is a link to it instead.

This is awesome but doesn't it seem like the text for the overview of the savannah campaign is cut off? "It is sufficient for you to know it involves a-" What am I missing out on?

Powerlurker
Oct 21, 2010

LP97S posted:

One of my favorites, the Belgian enclave of Baarle-Nassua which is in the Nertherlands.



And then the towns of Derby Line, USA and Stanstead, Canada



Also, some pics from the ground.



Thanks Bush for starting this and thanks Obama for continuing this poo poo.



One of my great-great-(great?)-grandfathers was from Derby Line, not sure which side of the border. If you notice on the left side of the map, the border goes right down the center of Canusa Road. If you live on the south side of the street, your house in in the US, but if you take a left turn out of your driveway, you're in Canada.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Frostwerks posted:

This is awesome but doesn't it seem like the text for the overview of the savannah campaign is cut off? "It is sufficient for you to know it involves a-" What am I missing out on?

I think the missing world is "march". As in, "you don't need to know where we're going. You job is just to march."

sum
Nov 15, 2010

Lord Hydronium posted:

Do you know where this map is originally from, by any chance? I'd love to find a copy of it.
The cartographer is Samuel Walker, and a cursory search yielded a link to a colored version for $100. I don't know if you'd be able to buy prints of it, but it seems unlikely and probably wouldn't save you very much money vs. an original.

bearic
Apr 14, 2004

john brown split this heart

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Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


i poo poo trains posted:

The cartographer is Samuel Walker, and a cursory search yielded a link to a colored version for $100. I don't know if you'd be able to buy prints of it, but it seems unlikely and probably wouldn't save you very much money vs. an original.
Thanks.

Here's the British version of the border:



Wow, they even include Golan Heights. That's some chutzpah.

Edit: Irredentist stamps.







Lord Hydronium fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Feb 5, 2013

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

The Monkey Man
Jun 10, 2012

HERD U WERE TALKIN SHIT
This is part of the cover of an official EU publication. How the hell did this happen?

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.

This should have been posted in the OP. PNAC redrawing of the ME.

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Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Budzilla posted:

This should have been posted in the OP. PNAC redrawing of the ME.


What the gently caress is this? Just random redrawing of borders for...what purpose? The mere expression of American power? Because it looks cooler?

Because I'm sure Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran, and Pakistan would be real happy about losing territory for no reason whatsoever.

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003


:confused: What's the context of this one? Someone just really hates Sweden?

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Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time

Budzilla posted:

This should have been posted in the OP. PNAC redrawing of the ME.



"Saudi Homeland Independent Territories"

I also love how someone has carved up the region for whatever loving reason/agenda and just leaves the West Bank "undetermined"

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